The Dark Knight Rises Joseph Gordon-Levitt as John Blake

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Has anyone discovered who JGL will be playing yet through osmosis, telepathy, time travel, or heard a rumor from a guy who was roommates with the nephew of the friend of the boss of a guy who saw Christopher Nolan at a meeting of the skull and bones?
 
Has anyone discovered who JGL will be playing yet through osmosis, telepathy, time travel, or heard a rumor from a guy who was roommates with the nephew of the friend of the boss of a guy who saw Christopher Nolan at a meeting of the skull and bones?

Wait - Nolan's making another Batman movie? And John Griffin-Lewis is in it!??! :wow:
 
No, i'm responding to your arguement that whoever uses fear is not sane. You should make better arguements.
Right. Way to get defensive.

You flat out said he isnt sane. How did i misinterpret that?
I said he isnt exactly "sane", but he isnt Joker insane. Hes just mentally unstable, as evidenced through his battles with Post traumatic Stress, and his Guilt and Bereavement over his parents death
He doesnt. Do i have to post comics pages? Just read Batman: Death and the Maidens that deals with Bruce dealing with his parents. There is no guilt there. He doesnt feel guilty for their deaths, he just wants them to be proud of him.
You can post a page where he doesnt feel guilty I can post one where he does, this is pointless.
No, its not like that. Batman is a dynamic character that keeps changing over the years according to the tastes and trends of each era. He was funny in the 50ies, grimdark insane in the 90ies, pretty balanced now under Morrison, and so on. The point is that he is not a mentally unstable person if you exclude his history in the worst decade in comics:
Precisely my point. If you exclude what source material you dont like, then your opinion of his mental state is quite different.

The 90ies. No, i dont. I have read comics and use them in my arguements to back them. If you have a different opinion, then please use sources yourself to back up what you re saying.
Which would you like :huh:

1) You dont know what a troll is.
2)

We re just talking. Relax.
Im sorry you made a condescending comment about not thinking I've read a single comic on a superhero forum :huh:

He is fixing the crap characterization of the character, where writers were pushing him further and further to insanity because "bat-dick is cool and edgy and hardcore". His Batman of Zur En Arrh is a mockery of that characterization. Batman doenst need to become a psychopath to be cool.
Since his beginning when Bob Kane created him he's been a dark and tormented character, he even used to carry a gun and kill people. Thats the oldest incarnation of the character, does everyone accept that as canon? No. Some prefer some interpretations, some prefer others, which is obviously the case here.

I dont deny that, i'm just saying that besides some good stories, most of the 90ies were spent in pushing the character further into a dark corner full of grimdark.
I think the 90's as a whole were better to the character of Batman than the current decade but thats another topic to debate at another time.
Wow, someone doesnt like to discuss. Hey, if you think that anyone who opposes you is a condescending troll, then perhaps you shouldnt discuss with people.
No I like to discuss just fine, I just dont appreciate when someone assumes I havent read a single comment then goes on to make incredibly condescending comments while imposing their biased opinion as canon and fact, thats what annoys me.
 
Are you guys still wasting time arguing over trivial crap?

LOL... Oh, SHH. :hrt:

Get out of the damn house for 5 minutes.
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Outside? Yuck. That's where animals copulate and where ebola and AIDS exists. The soothing glow of my computer in my mother's basement is much better thank you very much. :oldrazz:
 
I don't get too caught up about what is and what is not canon. Dark Knight Returns isn't technically canon, but it influenced the mythos forever. Likewise the Burton and Nolan films aren't comics-canon, but they too have influenced the character, his world, and how they're presented. All of these reflect off of each other whether they exist in an on-going serial, a one-off elseworld tale, or a feature film. And all of them, the good ones anyway, are valid. There really isn't much that cannot be changed about the character from one incarnation to the next, less than some would think.
You make a good point, but i think its important to seperate the non canon comics. There is a reason they re not canon and its because their plots or characterization doesnt match the main direction they want to take the character.

Dont get me wrong, Nolan can write anything he wants, but when we re discussing whether or not Batman is sane, we have to stick to the main characterization. Its like asking if Lex Luthor is a good guy. Well if you find the 2 stories where he is then yeah sure, but in the canon DCU he is a villain.
Are you guys still wasting time arguing over trivial crap?

LOL... Oh, SHH. :hrt:

Get out of the damn house for 5 minutes.
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Are you whining about people discussing their interests in a message board? Maybe you should get out more.
 
You can post a page where he doesnt feel guilty I can post one where he does, this is pointless.
I doubt you can find one that isnt in an elseworlds story. Batman's main motivation has been to do good after what has happened to him. Besides Nolan's Bruce that thought he was to blame because he asked his parents to leave early, i havent seen Bruce blame himself.
Precisely my point. If you exclude what source material you dont like, then your opinion of his mental state is quite different.
I'm excluding 1/8 of his comics history which is considered horrible by most fans. Do you seriously want to consider that 1/8 the rule over the rest 7/8? Well ok, enjoy your
"hur dur Dick, Bruce Wayne doesnt exist anymore. Only Batman."
"No Bruce, no! BAWWWWW"
So hardcore.
Since his beginning when Bob Kane created him he's been a dark and tormented character, he even used to carry a gun and kill people. Thats the oldest incarnation of the character, does everyone accept that as canon? No. Some prefer some interpretations, some prefer others, which is obviously the case here.
Those stories are no longer canon, and therefore they dont apply to the character we now have. They re just old versions of him, just like Super-dick is an older version of Superman that used to torment Jimmy Olsen and troll the world.
 
So anyway, Nolan doesnt have to adhere to any particular version of the character, just his own. To me it seems that Ras has taught Bruce how to deal with his trauma and channel it for something good. He isnt capable of living a normal life, but he isnt out for blood or revenge either. He is a force of good brilliantly demonstrated at the end of TDK when he makes a huge sacrifice for the greater good of the city. A vigilante wouldnt do that. A hero would.

 
Besides that famous quote, what exactly in Batman's M.O. would you call vengeful? I cant even remember how many times he's helped villains reform and get back their life. He's even gone out of his way to get the Joker out of the death penalty because he was set up.
 
I would say his mission was borne out of vengeance, but later evolved to the altruistic sensibilities he carries in his more mature state.

BTW, the notion that he was "grateful"? Quite possibly the worst application and attempt at an emotional response from the reader. I've good sense the writer probably had the best of intentions to portray it as poetic, but holy s--t that deserves a humongous eye-roll.
 
I would say his mission was borne out of vengeance, but later evolved to the altruistic sensibilities he carries in his more mature state.

BTW, the notion that he was "grateful"? Quite possibly the worst application and attempt at an emotional response from the reader. I've good sense the writer probably had the best of intentions to portray it as poetic, but holy s--t that deserves a humongous eye-roll.
I guess Winnick (the writer) was a bit too dramatic here.
 
I would say his mission was borne out of vengeance, but later evolved to the altruistic sensibilities he carries in his more mature state.

BTW, the notion that he was "grateful"? Quite possibly the worst application and attempt at an emotional response from the reader. I've good sense the writer probably had the best of intentions to portray it as poetic, but holy s--t that deserves a humongous eye-roll.

I agree.
 
Just for fun:

We know:

- Bane is in the film.

- The ending has not been revealed to the cast (just production)

- Warner Bros. is not happy with the ending. Thus the news of the "reboot"

- The story with Bane & how it ends with him breaking Batman's back

- That while Batman is rehabilitating, he has a replacement.


So if this is true in Nolan's script. Then my vote would be for Joseph Gordon-Levitt to be involved with or be Batman's replacement. So in a sense, he is Robin in some shape or form. Kinda makes sense why Warner Bros. is upset with Nolan's ending. It's not that you will see Joseph Gordon-Levitt in the actual Batman suit. It just means there would could be some scene where Bruce is passing the torch. The whole ending could involve Bruce paralyzed, etc.., and all this unfolds. Potential for a emotional ending.

Has the making for an Oscar for Nolan.
 
You missed the part about that girl being cast as a 'street smart kid', that people have speculated could be a female robin, which would fit in with the batman needing a replacement. Also Catwoman.

Welcome to the Hype
 
What we actually know for sure.

-Chris Nolan is back.
-The movie is called "The Dark Knight Rises"
-It releases July 20, 2012.
-The Riddler, Mr. Freeze, The Joker, and Two-Face aren't in the movie.
-Bale, Caine, Freeman, and Oldman are returning to their respective roles.
-The same writing team is back.
-Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard are back.
-Wally Pfister is back.
-Tom Hardy is Bane.
-Anne Hathaway is Catwoman.
-Joseph-Gordon Levitt has a role.
-Juno Temple has a role.
-Marion Cotilliard might have a role.
-Something calls back to Batman Begins.
-Gordon and Bane will share quite a bit of screentime.
-Security around the movie is tight.
-Neither "Green Lantern" or "Man of Steel" will be set in the same universe.
 
You missed the part about that girl being cast as a 'street smart kid', that people have speculated could be a female robin, which would fit in with the batman needing a replacement. Also Catwoman.

Welcome to the Hype


Forgot about that.

Thanks for the welcome.
 
- Warner Bros. is not happy with the ending. Thus the news of the "reboot"

- The story with Bane & how it ends with him breaking Batman's back

- That while Batman is rehabilitating, he has a replacement.

Welcome, but... those 3 are not something we really know. They are all rumours.
 
What we actually know for sure.

-Chris Nolan is back.
-The movie is called "The Dark Knight Rises"
-It releases July 20, 2012.
-The Riddler, Mr. Freeze, The Joker, and Two-Face aren't in the movie.
-Bale, Caine, Freeman, and Oldman are returning to their respective roles.
-The same writing team is back.
-Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard are back.
-Wally Pfister is back.
-Tom Hardy is Bane.
-Anne Hathaway is Catwoman.
-Joseph-Gordon Levitt has a role.
-Juno Temple has a role.
-Marion Cotilliard might have a role.
-Something calls back to Batman Begins.
-Gordon and Bane will share quite a bit of screentime.
-Security around the movie is tight.
-Neither "Green Lantern" or "Man of Steel" will be set in the same universe.

1. Morgan Freeman isn't confirmed. He hasn't been mentioned in any press releases.

2. No Penguin, either.

3. James Newton Howard isn't confirmed.
 
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