The Dark Knight Rises Joseph Gordon-Levitt as John Blake

[Yurka]

Keaton's portrayal of Bruce's darkness and isolation is one of the reasons I prefer the Bruce/Keaton of Batman 89'

 

[Mr. Earle]

Screw grimdark Batman. Moderately happy Batman is the best.

 

[Wolverine1988]

Keaton's portrayal of Bruce's darkness and isolation is one of the reasons I prefer the Bruce/Keaton of Batman 89'

Agreed, Keaton did an amazing job.

 

[Doctor Who]

Agreed, Keaton did an amazing job.

He was good Batman, but a GREAT Bruce Wayne. t:

 

[Brother Jack]

Keaton's portrayal of Bruce's darkness and isolation is one of the reasons I prefer the Bruce/Keaton of Batman 89'

Bale might very well carry that same kind of isolation in TDKR. His life was more or less ruined in TDK.

 

[Yurka]

Bale might very well carry that same kind of isolation in TDKR. His life was more or less ruined in TDK.

I hope so, I think some of the roots of "Knightfall" (if theyre going that route) were planted in by the end of Dark Knight, i.e. Rachel dies, Bruce is drained physically and emotionally, Gotham is most likely turning on him, etc.

A more tormented and depressed Bruce would be great IMO, something we really havent seen before.

 

[Visceral]

I think he is a lawyer, I just watched Prince of the city

 

[Unmasked]

He's gonna be a young Hugo Strange.
Or maybe a slimmed down Penguin

 

[Avengers-Report]

He's gonna be a young Hugo Strange.
Or maybe a slimmed down Penguin

Too young to be Strange, even if he is a young Strange. Didn't Nolan say there is no Penguin? And no, he won't be a slimmed down Penguin. Your taking specific characteristics away from both Strange and Penguin that make them who they are just so JGL will fit them. I doubt Nolan would do something like that as well.

 

[craigdbfan]

I hope so, I think some of the roots of "Knightfall" (if theyre going that route) were planted in by the end of Dark Knight, i.e. Rachel dies, Bruce is drained physically and emotionally, Gotham is most likely turning on him, etc.

A more tormented and depressed Bruce would be great IMO, something we really havent seen before.

I'm really hoping thats the case Yurka.

Thats one thing I really liked about Batman 89 the pure isolated nature of Wayne. He was an incredibly lonely man basically rendering Wayne as a waiting room for when Batman needed to actually come out and take care of business.

Definitely think TDK like you pointed out paved the way for that version of Wayne.

 

[gazzilla8000]

I'm really hoping thats the case Yurka.

Thats one thing I really liked about Batman 89 the pure isolated nature of Wayne. He was an incredibly lonely man basically rendering Wayne as a waiting room for when Batman needed to actually come out and take care of business.

Definitely think TDK like you pointed out paved the way for that version of Wayne.

The problem with that Wayne was that he was also very boring, as a character. Partly because the screenplay didn't give him anything to do, admitedly.

 

[Gianakin_]

I don't expect Bale's version to get any closer to that of Keaton in TDKR. Nor should he. There are more than one approaches to show Batman's isolation. Keaton/Burton's was one. IF TDKR touches upon that, I guarantee it'll be different.

And Keaton's Wayne was horrendous, imo. But it was Burton's fault, not Keaton's. The guy was following a script and a director.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Whoa, his Wayne was actually very interesting. A man who is uncomfortabe around others and doesn't seem to fit in while his home is in the batcave. Batman seems to have been around for a month in the film, so who knows what his Wayne was doing before that? Maybe he travelled the world like Bale's did. He's just come back and just doesn't feel like he fits in for this film. Being Batman and being in the batcave is his retreat. He's much more confident in BR, other than stumbling when he sees Selina.

 

[Gianakin_]

Nah, don't really like this approach on Wayne.

 

[DieSmiling]

I hated Keaton's portrayal of Bruce. One of my least favorite things about Batman '89.

 

[ALittlePush]

But you're not seeing the goldmine of dramatic potential before our eyes.

You've adressed it yourself, "who will fear the Falcone name now?" Thats ripe for exploration. Imagine Alberto Falcone, depicted as he is in the comics. Weak, indecisive, but loyal to the family. Now imagine him trying to pick up the pieces of his family's legacy - Desperately trying to keep the Falcone family from becoming irrelevant, even though the world of crime is a world he was never really built for.

If you thought the mob was desperate in TDK, it will be interesting to see what they are capable (or incapable) of with a misguided and extremely challeneged Alberto behind the reins.

To me, finishing the story with the Falcone empire in ruins is far more interesting and relevant to Nolan's overarching storyline than simply introducing a brand new mob boss, when the movie is already packed with enough "freaks" as it is.

I agree. Desperate men resort to desperate measures, and if Alberto Falcone was desperate enough to try and regain the fear and respect his family once commanded in Gotham, there's no telling what he may do in order to achieve that goal. Maybe he kills Juno Temple's character in order to send the message that the Falcones are back in business, which kick starts Selina Kyle into becoming Catwoman who is out for revenge and his blood. Batman could then stop Catwoman from killing Alberto saying that killing him would make her no better than Alberto himself or something like that. There would be the parallel between Catwoman and Harvey Dent (Two vigilantes out for revenge, Batman would have saved Catwoman where he failed Dent, etc) Justice would be served (through the courts with Falcone incarcerated), Batman could be shown to be the hero Gotham needs and so on and so forth.

 

[Unmasked]

I agree. Desperate men resort to desperate measures, and if Alberto Falcone was desperate enough to try and regain the fear and respect his family once commanded in Gotham, there's no telling what he may do in order to achieve that goal. Maybe he kills Juno Temple's character in order to send the message that the Falcones are back in business, which kick starts Selina Kyle into becoming Catwoman who is out for revenge and his blood. Batman could then stop Catwoman from killing Alberto saying that killing him would make her no better than Alberto himself or something like that. There would be the parallel between Catwoman and Harvey Dent (Two vigilantes out for revenge, Batman would have saved Catwoman where he failed Dent, etc) Justice would be served (through the courts with Falcone incarcerated), Batman could be shown to be the hero Gotham needs and so on and so forth.

Meanwhile, Bane...

 

[Nevincer]

Meanwhile, Bane...

Disappoints everyones expectations by being given the same treatment that Scarecrow received during Batman Begins whilst Catwoman retains all the focus.

 

[COMPO]

I doubt Catwoman will get all the focus, she'll be like Harvey, the emotional backbone, whereas Bane is the 'unstoppable force'

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Why are we applying TDK's structure to Rises? Can you apply TDK's structure to Begins? Inception? Prestige? Memento?

 

[Doctor Who]

I doubt Catwoman will get all the focus, she'll be like Harvey, the emotional backbone, whereas Bane is the 'unstoppable force'

Correct.

 

[Nevincer]

I doubt Catwoman will get all the focus, she'll be like Harvey, the emotional backbone, whereas Bane is the 'unstoppable force'

I was joking. All bets are off on how any of the characters will be handled in TDKR, imo. We should stop making assumptions that a certain character will steal the show, you're probably just setting yourself up for disappointment, especially when this is the finale and the "escalation" could very possibly introduce a number of classic rogues in unannounced albeit small roles. Whilst I prefer it not be the case, Bane is no exception, especially when you consider how quickly and effortlessly he was seemingly casted, at least from interpreting what we know.

 

[COMPO]

I know The Joker stole the show in the last film but two face stole the ending, so its anyones game. I'd love for Bats to fight like 'freaks' through the film sort of like he fought the Batmen in the last film. Or the mob starts being freaky or at least trying as they try to keep up. I'd love a moment like in Under the Hood where Jason Todd takes over the drug rings with Bane.

 

[ALittlePush]

Meanwhile, Bane...

Maybe Bane is initially hired by Alberto to take out the Batman. Bane could be known amongst the mob as having a 100% success rate in getting the job done (so obviously his services don't come cheap). Bane is very thorough in his work and he gets to know his targets before killing them, in order to make sure the kill is successful. Alberto is displeased with how long it seems to be taking Bane to eliminate Batman as he assumed it was just going to be a quick shoot and kill job. Alberto thinks Bane is just a lowly hired hitman and treats him as such. This doesn't go down well with Bane who threatens Alberto, telling him to let him get on with his job, and hikes his price as payment for having to put up with Alberto. Alberto, not being quite the hardman his father was, agrees to this. Bane is then kind of a loose cannon, taking orders from no-one, but Alberto still thinks he's in charge. Bane is the real threat to Batman as he will stop at nothing to get the job done. Just an idea.

 

[Nevincer]

I'd hate for Bane to be hired by Alberto (or any Mob Boss, for that matter). That's just as shamelessly a retread, if not moreso, than the alleged League of Shadows plotline that leaked. Not only that, but I want Bane to feel like his own character, not just a saner and musclebound replacement for Mr. J and his contributions to the criminal underworld.