The Dark Knight Rises Official Oswald " The Penguin " Cobblepot thread

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I've been having a Penquin story in my head lately. In it, Penquin is the only gun manufacter in the state. Penquin would start (legally) taking down Gotham's biggest companies, including Wayne Enterprises (or whatever it's called in Nolan-verse). Penquin would do this for money, but more importantly, he would make hundreds of jobless people. Next, he would sabotage most of the food-shipments. Finally, he would make "Two-Face" public (Information would come from The Riddler.), creating thousands of hopeless, desperate and hungry criminals. Customers.
 
Philip Seymour Hoffman all the way. The guy is a huge fan of the character, its the type of role he would own, and he's exactly the type of actor Nolan looks for.
But Nolan should get over the BS excuse that the Penguin isn't real enough.
The Joker isn't a very realistic character, he practically comes out of nowhere....and look at how they worked him in. Penguin doesn't need to be the deformed sewer rat from Returns to work in the real-life Nolanverse. There's a difference between being a Penguin and the nickname.
 
I hope David Suchet is oneday offered the opportunity to play The Penguin, but if the role is ever cast, it should go to someone capable of portraying something between particularly aggrivated "small man syndrome", and the proposterous nature of someone desperately trying to appear "high class", and never managing.
 
Philip Seymour Hoffman, he would be perfect as penguin. After I saw Mission impossible 3, I thought he could even compare to Heath Ledger as Joker.

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Philip Seymour Hoffman, he would be perfect as penguin. After I saw Mission impossible 3, I thought he could even compare to Heath Ledger as Joker.

I completely agree, Hoffman is perfect for Cobblepot, but maybe too perfect for his own good. The Penguin would be a repetition of many of Hoffman's previous roles, especially in "Before The Devil Knows You're Dead", "Mission Impossible 3" and "Capote", and I can't see Hoffman as an actor who likes to repeat himself. I think it's too difficult to write a Penguin that strayes too far from these previous performances.

Apart from that, Hoffman is perfect pitch.
 
Danny DeVito was perfect as Burton's Penguin. I can't see Pesci in Batman Returns.

I could see Pesci playing The Penguin in Nolan's Batman movies.
 
........ keep SAW actors away

unless its Danny Glover as Robin....
 
Danny DeVito was perfect as Burton's Penguin. I can't see Pesci in Batman Returns.

I could see Pesci playing The Penguin in Nolan's Batman movies.

Pesci is too old now.

I didn't like Burton's portrayal of him looking like a monster but oh well.
 
I'd say that show ceased being interesting after the first season.

And i'd say it despite not being asked my opinion on the matter :oldrazz:
 
id say stop whining about lost and stick to the thread's topic discussion!:cmad:
jk. i don't really care. lost is cool btw, but Michael Emerson is defiantly a better candidate for the riddler!
 
Hey man, it seems things went well and nice without me here (except some Laderlappen stoning in the Catwoman thread). It's good to be back though.
 
I believe the penguin will be the mainn villain for Batman 3, i just don't see the riddler or catwoman as villains that can top the Joker. Catwoman and Riddler are really not evil or that dangerous to be considered main villains in a Batman movie. To take on the Batman, you must need goons, money and the penguin has all of those. The riddler would play a big role in helping to find out who the batman is and catwoman would play the love interest of batman. The penguin is the only villain that could top the joker.
 
Michael Emerson is defiantly a better candidate for the riddler!

The problem with Emerson being the Riddler is that the role everybody has in it's too similar to Ben Linus. Cold, cerebral, manipulating, doing things for personal gain, trying to prove himself. And while I would love to see a Ben-Linus type character in The Dark Knight, I would actually prefer to see him do aother role. Most choices around here are based on the wish to see a repetition of a certain role: Hollander to see a Penguin similar to Lord Cutter... Hoffman has made penguin-like character in multiple occasions... and while I would love to see those, they wouldn't spark my curiosity. They wouldn't spark my imagination in the way the Ledger casting did. They wouldn't catch me off guard.

I'm not saying Emerson is a left-field cast. We're talking about an extremely talented actor here, who has been on a show where he has played a treacherous vermin and a charismatic, calm, mastermind leader at the same time. And, most importantly, a guy who has proven to be chamaleon... a man that jumps in between characters he makes up with such a swiftness and a calmness that is unnverving. His lies are so convincing that sometimes an unnerving laughter comes from you as you're watching, because the ambiguity and the steadiness he displays have no peer. You can see much talk about Michael Shannon's work in "Rev. Road", but that pales in comparison to what Emerson has achieved in Lost.

That's why I know we can get more from him than just a repetition of his role. Emerson is too good for that. That guy has been robbed of his much deserved Emmy many times. And Nolan is known for hiring tv actors fo medium-to-minor characters. And discussin Lost here is not off-topic, not when it comes to talking about Emerson, isn't it? Lost is not your typical run-of-the-mill show, it's probably the best thing on TV right now, and can tackled too many films I've seen in the past years in terms of writing, acting and direction. It has an splendid cast, but if I had to pick only one actor, Emerson would be the man. He would be a terrific Riddler, but his Penguin would be better just because it would be fresh and exciting. Imagine him with mildly mannered demanor, a little fake over-weight, facial prosthetics and a british accent. Seeing a Penguin played by such an incredibly creative Penguin would ertainly spark my curiosity and my interest.


And about Lost, Jon Lachonis sums it best in a recent review:

"Refusing to succumb to accessibility, LOST’s writers have famously twisted the simple concept of survivors marooned on an island into a densely plotted piece of science-fiction fantasy that effortlessly balances heady excursions into existentialism, spirituality, and reason with an unmistakable authenticity that is – at times – intimidating even for the die hard viewers. The result is an audience that has been distilled into an intellectual acid bath. Love it or hate it, understanding Lost automatically gets you labeled as some sort of egg-head. LOST has transcended the pop-culture eco-system and become a sort of geek-chic milestone for its generation. As many will point out, LOST’s ‘programming for smart people’ is merely a part of the modern marketing landscape – nonetheless, LOST has become the thesis where others have tried, unsuccessfully, to ride the gimmick."


... and the Truth shall set you free.:word:
 
ok! honestly after ledger's performance as the joker (a character that looks, sounds) nothing like what ledger was, anyone (male i mean) can disappear into the role of the penguin or riddler, as long as they have the talent to do so!

oh and i dont care what anyone says: lost is a great tv show in a time of many crappy tv shows!
 

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