Raiders of the Official Relationship Thread

[WillardNation]

I'm 6' and was with a girl who was 6'3" and, trust me, she REALLY knew what she was doing! t:

Yeah, so I don't think size is any indicator of skill level.

 

[SuperMike335!!]

Yeah, so I don't think size is any indicator of skill level.

True, it does not indicate skill, but size does matter.

 

[Hound55]

I wouldn't usually do this, but for the sake of this point, which I think is one of the reasons that I and other people in my position don't perhaps land as many guys, i'm going to.

I am 5'10, and last time I weighed in I was 13st11. I wear a UK size 14-16 trousers.

When I was at university, I was the same height, but about 12st6.

If I said to a guy like WillardNation - 'Would you date a girl who was nearly 14 stone?' what do you think his answer would be?

Society tells me i'm fat. The majority of men out there, will only call a girl 'hot' if she's slim. And if i'm completely honest it is my biggest confidence issue. I ALWAYS feel like the fat girl, because in all honestly i'm usually the biggest girl in the group/room. And even if I stand by to a guy who is slim, I feel fat next to him.

Here is the comparison of me then and now (don't have a lot of full body shots, and i've picked the same top for consistency).

I know I don't look FAT.

But do you get what i'm saying about how a man saying he doesn't like fat women, would never look twice at a fat woman, etc etc, effects a girl who is classed by society as overweight?

I definitely get what you're saying, but unfortunately, everyone has a right to their personal preferences. Some guys can have a rude way of stating those preferences, but then, why would you want to be around a rude person, anyways?

I have no idea what 14 stone is lol. But you definitely don't look fat to me! Society's definition of overweight depends on where you live and even who you're talking to. What's important is to stay confident and happy with yourself - don't allow others to define you. I also think that if you're unhappy with you're body, it WILL make you feel better about yourself if you start working out regularly or taking a fun dance class, etc. It gives you a sense of control over yourself.

Also, I'm not sure what it's like where you live, but I know a lot of men who do NOT like really skinny girls. They want a woman with curves. Try not to compare yourself to your friends, because that makes it easy to find things you don't like about yourself.

When I say "fat", I don't mean thick or a big frame. I mean a gut, cellulite, round. I'm fully aware of people's metabolisms and whatnot. But a girl who is naturally bigger, doesn't have to be fat. If you eat healthy, you'll never be fat. I guarantee that. The problem with that is, there are such gross misconceptions about what is and isn't healthy these days that somebody could be eating a very strict "healthy" (in their perception) diet and not still be fat because they are being given false information about what's actually healthy.

I'm totally ok with you thinking that. But you can't guarantee it wouldn't help another person. Some people respond better to tough, not sugar coated truth. I do.

I wouldn't consider you fat. Could you stand to firm a bit, yeah (sorry if that comes across as mean or crass, I don't mean it to be, just being blunt for the sake of the conversation) but not fat. And if you were to ask me "Would you date a girl who was nearly 14 stone?" I would reply, "I'm sorry, what? I have no idea what a 'stone' is."

I completely disagree. I've been with a couple "sturdy" women and the sex was not even close to be as good as the sex I've had with the more petite women. Maybe it's just because that's my preference. I have no problem with thick women, I just really like my women smaller. They're not as fragile as you make them out to be, I can guarantee you will never break one. t:

A stone is 14 pounds, so by my math we're talking about 195-200 lbs... Something like that. Or 88.5-90.5 kilos if we're talking in terms of a proper measurement of weight...

Oh that's for talking about 14 stone... Not hopefulsuicide's own weight.

 

[SuperSoldier985]

Sure I'm full of "s"

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

True, it does not indicate skill, but size does matter.

Lol, not sure where to take that. Regarding the subject though, there's no way to tell how good or bad someone will be. There are a lot of hot girls who don't do nothing special.

 

[Anita18]

True, it does not indicate skill, but size does matter.

Just saying as a woman, there IS a physical size-limiting factor for a number of us.

 

[WillardNation]

A stone is 14 pounds, so by my math we're talking about 195-200 lbs... Something like that. Or 88.5-90.5 kilos if we're talking in terms of a proper measurement of weight...

Oh that's for talking about 14 stone... Not hopefulsuicide's own weight.

In that case, I would definitely not hook up with somebody that weighed almost 14 stone.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

Just saying as a woman, there IS a physical size-limiting factor for a number of us.

Speaking with some, ahem, first hand knowledge most guys are big...fat liars. There is a downside, because some girls can't accommodate you. Lot of trouble making it fit, and way too much friction sometimes. It's more frustrating than people believe. I think women actually prefer average across the board.

 

[SuperMike335!!]

In that case, I would definitely not hook up with somebody that weighed almost 14 stone.

For me would depend on her height. If she was 6'1"+ that is a BMI of 23.7, perfectly normal.

If she is on the other hand only 5'8" then its a BMI over 27, and that is unhealthy, and risks high blood pressure, type 2 diabetes and so forth. http://www.netplaces.com/diabetes/type-2-diabetes/risks-associated-with-weight-and-bmi.htm

Everyone should exercise. That can give people more confidence and a better looking body.

I'm on a diet right now myself. I want to see my abs by summer.

 

[Erzengel]

In that case, I would definitely not hook up with somebody that weighed almost 14 stone.

My car gets 20 rutabagas to the click.

 

[Anita18]

Speaking with some, ahem, first hand knowledge most guys are big...fat liars. There is a downside, because some girls can't accommodate you. Lot of trouble making it fit, and way too much friction sometimes. It's more frustrating than people believe. I think women actually prefer average across the board.

That reminds me of the time where my bf and I were having some laughs perusing "Best of Craigslist." There was one that was about online dating tips, and the author wrote, "Guys, when you measure yourselves, it's from the base, NOT the undercarriage!

Yes, average is preferred for this gal! And there are still times where my internal parts are hanging a little lower than usual and we still have to stop. Unlike some people, I don't consider pain and puking to be an enjoyable aspect of sex.

 

[Hound55]

I'm not really in the position to go judging too many people as hot or not.

I'm a scrawny little stick-figure who's slowly working on a beer gut and also happen to have the pastiest torso outside of Scotland and a face only a mother could love... I'm also rapidly balding myself.

That said, I don't think I'd have too many issues finding someone if I were single once again.

 

[Hound55]

Unlike some people, I don't consider pain and puking to be an enjoyable aspect of sex.

Soft...

 

[SuperSoldier985]

It always baffles me when fat people get offended about people saying **** about fat people. Racism, sexism, THOSE are the kinds of things you can get offended about. But you being lazy and not caring enough about yourself to take care of yourself does not give you the privilege to get offended. One time, a friend and I were standing in line to get some food after the bars closed one night and I was saying something along the lines of, "Yeah man, blond, brunette, redhead, black, Asian, white, hispanic, I don't discriminate, I like em all."
These two girls who were standing in front of us (one fat and one just really ugly) turn around and the ugly one says, "Well that's cool. Although I'm sure you discriminate against size, don't you?"
I replied, "Of course I do. You can't expect me to love you if you don't even love yourself."

My propositions are always serious.

Being lazy has little to do with anything BTW..

Growing up overweight, you tend to notice things that most people will never see. When I grew up, I ate the same food that everyone else ate, I showed up to gym and exercised just as much as everyone else and as time grew on, these kids always stayed skinny, fit, or toned muscularly, while I never did.

Sure, for some cases, it does take "work", but it's been scientifically proven as fact time and time again, that things such as metabolism, your body type (i.e., mesomorph, endomorph), and how your body responses to certain foods and physical activity is directly attributed to your genetics--aka things you CANNOT change.

There are men and women out there starving themselves, feeling miserable, while constantly living in pain, trying to fit into those size 8s and 9s, whereas there are a lot of women or men out there that eat anything they want, exercise extremely moderately, and they just don't gain weight. I'm not saying that people can't change or aren't willing to change--I'm willing to believe (if me and my family are proof) that anyone can change themselves--I'm just saying it's not a black and white issue. Everyone's different and I'm more prone to let people be exactly who they are. Eventually they'll find their own way through life in terms of who they want to be. My sister is a great example--she was made fun of a lot through her life and she had a lot of depression and anxiety issues too to the point where she contemplated suicide. Throughout her entire life she's fought to lose weight but nothing worked. She had to resort to surgery to drop the weight. Only she knows whether or not it was what she truly wanted.

So to me, calling someone "fat" and even "skinny" IS very offensive to people and trust me, yes, calling a skinny person "skinny" usually offends that person, but probably not to the same level as "fat".

 

[Hound55]

I didn't call anyone fat though, and neither did Anubis.

The term "fat" was never defined in the issue. It was just a general at length statement "Fat people need love too." and left in those terms there's nothing demeaning about that.

Simple logic.

All people need love.
Fat people are still people.
Therefore, "Fat people need love too."

 

[Anita18]

So to me, calling someone "fat" and even "skinny" IS very offensive to people and trust me, yes, calling a skinny person "skinny" usually offends that person, but probably not to the same level as "fat".

People can call me skinny. It's just a physical adjective. I mean, tell me something I DON'T know.

It's when people declare fat or skinny people to be better than or less than is what I have issues with.

 

[SuperSoldier985]

Yep, sure, I agree.

I'm just giving my two cents.

 

[Anubis]

Ugos need love too.

 

[Hound55]

Ugos need love too.

*Sighs*

*Gets out firemans hose and proceeds to put out the new spot-fires*

 

[Anubis]

 

[WillardNation]

Fat people are still people.

No. Not in my world.

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Kidding.

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Kind of.

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[terry78]

This thread did win Thread of the Year, didn't it? If not it was robbed.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

My head is spinning from the last few pages.

 

[SuperSoldier985]

No. Not in my world.

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Kidding.

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Kind of.

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Still,....

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

This thread did win Thread of the Year, didn't it? If not it was robbed.

Censored softcore porn. I'm go out on a limb and say they were really having sex in that pic. Like it's a screenshot of a video recording.