RoboCop Reboot - Part 4

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Well he certainly looks the part to join Daft Punk, maybe they can use his robot voice for some of the songs, he kinda has that sound they go for.

 

[TWayneP]

Well he certainly looks the part to join Daft Punk, maybe they can use his robot voice for some of the songs, he kinda has that sound they go for.

Now that you mention it, the scores a very important part of this film, and daft punk would actually be an ideal choice. It would be pretty awesome and put a more definitive touch in this film.

 

[terry78]

Robot Rock.



At the risk of being too easy.

 

[Pepsiguy2]

Jackson looks like a TV preacher. Maybe (hopefully?) that'll be the case.

He's pretty much that type of character.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Are you kidding me?!?! The visuals in the Total Recall remake were fantastic!!! I know it ain't the original, but it sure as hell isn't anywhere near as bad as people make it out to be.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I showed my brother the trailer and he thought it looked really good too, really looking forward to this and I will be seeing it in the cinema based on the trailer.

BTW, does anyone know if they are bringing out a new transfer of the original on BD to coincide with the new movies release? I believe the old BD transfer is poor and have had to stop myself from buying it so far.

 

[DyeLorean]

It's just like Padilha said. This movie focuses on what happens in the original film, between Murphy dying, and when Robocop is completed; those cuts where we see OCP and Morton politicing, building, and just plain removing the man from the machine.

Umm... interesting.

 

[Figs]

I showed my brother the trailer and he thought it looked really good too, really looking forward to this and I will be seeing it in the cinema based on the trailer.

BTW, does anyone know if they are bringing out a new transfer of the original on BD to coincide with the new movies release? I believe the old BD transfer is poor and have had to stop myself from buying it so far.

I'm going to look that up because I also held off on buying the current Blu-ray due to the sub par transfer.

I'm happy with my Criterion DVD for the moment.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I thought the trailer was okay.

I'm sure I'll piss some people off by saying this, but Robocop wasn't exactly a master piece. It was entertaining, and had some memorable stuff (the ED robot). Classic 80's. My point is, I wasn't exactly expecting a piece of art, so this trailer didn't disappoint.

 

[AnneFan]

Robot Rock.

Legend of the Phoenix should be the name of the sequel. Robo's up all night to arrest baddies.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I'm going to look that up because I also held off on buying the current Blu-ray due to the sub par transfer.

I'm happy with my Criterion DVD for the moment.

I have a problem watching DVD's nowadays, I have become a format snob t:. But I got rid of my Robocop DVD when this movie was originally going to be releases this year hoping a new transfer would come out on BD, and I have been dying to watch it the last few days.

Most other re-makes usually come with a new transfer of the original on BD, hopefully this will follow suit.

 

[TWayneP]

Legend of the Phoenix should be the name of the sequel. Robo's up all night to arrest baddies.

I was actually being serious though lol. What they did with Tron is amazing. The subtle cues in some of their tracks of that OST really played like a terminator/robocop vibe. I would think they could potentially bring something epic to the table.

 

[Figs]

I have a problem watching DVD's nowadays, I have become a format snob t:. But I got rid of my Robocop DVD when this movie was originally going to be releases this year hoping a new transfer would come out on BD, and I have been dying to watch it the last few days.

Most other re-makes usually come with a new transfer of the original on BD, hopefully this will follow suit.

Hahaha! Luckily for me I have not reached that point. I can still enjoy watching a movie on DVD format. There are some movies like The Last Man on Earth that haven't been released on Blu-ray and I'm keeping my DVD in case it never gets a Blu-ray.

I'm crossing my fingers they release a Robocop: Director's Cut Blu-ray with a transfer worth buying.

 

[Fives]

I liked the trailer, I thought it looked pretty good.

 

[MrMaooz]

I really liked the "Dead or alive" line in the trailer.

 

[AnneFan]

I was actually being serious though lol. What they did with Tron is amazing. The subtle cues in some of their tracks of that OST really played like a terminator/robocop vibe. I would think they could potentially bring something epic to the table.

I wouldn't say no to this. There also exists the epic potential of Robo jiving with the band in a music video.

Love this cast and seeing them strut their stuff in the trailer. Keaton, Oldman, Jackson, etc. Should be something relatively decent with them on board.

 

[metaphysician]

the car bomb is meant to be like in the war when soldiers die with a car bomb. the trailer shows a room full of soldiers with robo legs and arms. connection to modern times.

its an interesting direction. but it would be a scifi masterpiece if the movie was about humans using the tech to become perfect humans. something like this could be used as inspiration.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_Ex:_Human_Revolution

I never asked for this.

. . .but if I got this anyway, I'd be pleased enough.

 

[DocHolliday]

Robocop '87 (or maybe I should call it Realocop) was black. Black in terms of humour, black in terms of content. It was a mean, unforgiving movie that wasn't afraid to offend people. And jeeze, Robocop was a frigging horrow show once you got that helmet off.

This... is just a guy with a sweet robot body. A superhero movie. Safe. Easy. Nothing disturbing about it. Nobody is going to walk out offended. Some people might think that's a good thing. I think it means you're not taking any chances.

The biggest issue is that the filmmakers completely missed the point of the original film. The original RoboCop was a satire on 80's consumerism, corporate greed, drug abuse, gang violence, privatization of law enforcement, military-industrial complex, and the arms race. It parodied the non-stop action movies of the 1980s by going over the top with cartoon level ultra-violence. Making a serious action film with a PG-13 rating shows a complete lack of understanding of the original concept.

Superman was created by specific people, and then other people carried the franchise forward. The situation is the same--the only difference is that in the case of Robocop, the other people did an inferior job of it.

There's a reason why all the sequels, comics, tv-series based on the concept never worked - Robocop was never meant to be a "franchise" As a stand-alone film, Robocop is brilliant. It will always remain a product of it's time. Watching Robocop be turned into an action hero franchise with toys, cartoons, and all sorts of merchandise is hilariously ironic when you consider that the original Robocop was about commercialism stealing the soul. Just another case of Hollywood completely missing the point.

There never should have been a Robocop 2, Robocop 3, Robocop the cartoon, Robocop the series, Robocop vs Terminator, etc. All of them were unnecessary.

 

[Slushy]

That was one of the most exciting trailers I've seen in a long time. This remake is going to be sick! Now with that said, come quietly or there will be...trouble.

 

[TWayneP]

The biggest issue is that the filmmakers completely missed the point of the original film. The original RoboCop was a satire on 80's consumerism, corporate greed, drug abuse, gang violence, privatization of law enforcement, military-industrial complex, and the arms race. It parodied the non-stop action movies of the 1980s by going over the top with cartoon level ultra-violence. Making a serious action film with a PG-13 rating shows a complete lack of understanding of the original concept.



There's a reason why all the sequels, comics, tv-series based on the concept never worked - Robocop was never meant to be a "franchise" As a stand-alone film, Robocop is brilliant. It will always remain a product of it's time. Watching Robocop be turned into an action hero franchise with toys, cartoons, and all sorts of merchandise is hilariously ironic when you consider that the original Robocop was about commercialism stealing the soul. Just another case of Hollywood completely missing the point.

There never should have been a Robocop 2, Robocop 3, Robocop the cartoon, Robocop the series, Robocop vs Terminator, etc. All of them were completely unnecessary.

The film makers aren't missing the point of the original, they are doing their own thing. They need to be different and have different points. It makes sense. Making a pg-13 action movie doesn't show a lack of understanding of the original concept, because their concept is entirely different for a reason.

But I agree with you on everything else. robocop was never meant to be a franchise and is not to me. Shouldn't be with anyone else either because we all love robocop due to the first movie and literally NOTHING else lol. I've posted on this subject before though. It does not matter if The new robocop movie gets the point of the original. It's a different movie and a different robocop entirely. Not the one we know and love from 87. The fact that its based on just one film, and not a long history makes a difference.

Besides before we decide its a "serious pg-13 action film" we need to actually watch it first. Trailers are KNOWN to not advertise their movies properly. They just need to get the tickets sold by the demographic that matters most. The pg-13 action crowd lol. We may just get something much much deeper than we expect.

 

[Johnny Drama]

I actually have a playlist on Spotify named Robocop that I made months ago. Robot Rock is on it. LOL

 

[Saint]

That's my biggest gripe about the plot, along with how he gets injured. I mean, his wife just stops him on his motorcycle, and tells him he has to go talk to his son.

Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what I'm talking about. Then you see him kneeling down with his son, presumably for said talk.

Even Robocop 2, for all it's faults, understood this: there's a reason Robocop never went back to his family. Robocop 2 was inferior in execution, but a handful of it's plot ideas were interesting. With Robocop now knowing that he was once Murphy, the question demanded to be addressed: what does he do about his family?

Robocop 2's answer was great. Even Robocop understood he couldn't go back to them, couldn't even talk to them, because as much as he insisted he was still Murphy, he knew it wasn't the complete truth. Even before the OCP *****e convinced it of him, he still only ever watched them, never tried to make contact, because he knew he couldn't do it. And when he did finally push his wife away at the behest of said OCP *****e, even though he put on a show, there was a level of truth in what he said. He wasn't Murphy anymore, he was something different.

I expect this movie will address, in some capacity, that things can't go back to the way they used to be. He's not going to be a family man anymore, obviously. But clearly there's still a dialogue with his family. The story will likely be about a man forced to leave home--where the story of Robocop '87 is about a man who isn't a man anymore.

 

[Saint]

The biggest issue is that the filmmakers completely missed the point of the original film. The original RoboCop was a satire on 80's consumerism, corporate greed, drug abuse, gang violence, privatization of law enforcement, military-industrial complex, and the arms race. It parodied the non-stop action movies of the 1980s by going over the top with cartoon level ultra-violence. Making a serious action film with a PG-13 rating shows a complete lack of understanding of the original concept.

There's a reason why all the sequels, comics, tv-series based on the concept never worked - Robocop was never meant to be a "franchise" As a stand-alone film, Robocop is brilliant. It will always remain a product of it's time. Watching Robocop be turned into an action hero franchise with toys, cartoons, and all sorts of merchandise is hilariously ironic when you consider that the original Robocop was about commercialism stealing the soul. Just another case of Hollywood completely missing the point.

There never should have been a Robocop 2, Robocop 3, Robocop the cartoon, Robocop the series, Robocop vs Terminator, etc. All of them were unnecessary.

Certainly, you're right. There's no doubt about that. That said, I'm of two minds on the matter. The subtext of the film--overt as it may be--isn't what draws me to the franchise the most. That means that, for me, losing that subtext--while unfortunate--doesn't nail the coffin shut for me. I would sacrifice the satire if it meant I could keep the core story of the character.

That said, ideally you have both.

There's at least some level of commentary here (what with Robocop being marketed like an iPod and all), though whether it amounts to much remains to be seen. It would be nice if the element of satire was there, but simply omitted from the marketing (really, I would expect the studios to market this as a superhero film no matter the content), but if I'm honest that's just wishful thinking.

 

[Binker]

Doesn't Sam Jackson remind anyone of Reagan or someone from the '80s, especially with that hair?

 

[Thundercrack85]

I do get a sense that a big theme here will be the militarizing the police, which is actually an important, relevant issue.