RoboCop Reboot - Part 4

[dark_b]

Much like the original film, Murphy in this new film will probably begin to recall some memories and emotions aka fighting his computer system. Omnicorp wants to completely control Murphy and any action that he takes. In the trailer, Oldman's character, Dr. Norton, says, "the illusion of free will." Basically, Omnicorp sets up the RoboCop computer system to make Murphy think he is in control of everything he does, so I think as the film progresses, Oldman and Keaton want to ensure Murphy always thinks he is in control when they are truly controlling everything he does. They'll probably start messing around with his brain thus making him cold and robotic. His humanity stripped of him. A controlled product, but he'll probably then start recalling who is really was and he'll start fighting his own computer system. The ending, much like the original, Murphy in this version will understand who he really is by the end and a sense of his humanity restored.

Having zero control over your actions and having people screw around with your memories and emotions is VERY tragic and cruel and I think that is what Padilha is going for with this new RoboCop.

is it explained in the script why they need a human for the robot body? if the computer controls everything than why do they need a human brain?

because robots can not have weapons? they create a human robot so that they can give him a gun?

 

[terry78]

They probably want a human so people can relate. A robot as law enforcement would creep people out.

 

[ShadowBoxer]

I had my doubts about this movie ever since I heard about a reboot, but after seeing the trailer I am sold! My parents are excited about this like I am about comic book movies ha ha.

 

[Dyson]

They probably want a human so people can relate. A robot as law enforcement would creep people out.

This.

 

[SpideyFan866]

So by the end he no longer has any humanity? That's not much of a character journey nor does it leave room to do anything in a potential sequel.

^Yeah that sounds horrible and I doubt they will go that route because everything has to have a potential sequel lined up.

Yeah that's a bad ending for a movie...

Sorry, we made him completely robot now, no possibility for sequels, sorry

You misunderstand. Murphy does lose all of his humanity and become what we saw when Robocop is completed in the original; a robot with 0 memory of who he was.

If you remember, Murphy still had his memories in the original until Morton said to wipe them. It was apart of the montage of clips during his construction.

And again, this movie focuses on what happens in that span of time.

So yes, he does remember who he is at first and is horrified at what they did (leading to a scene right after he wakes where he tries to haul ass out of Omnicorp's facility), but he does lose his memory. By time Robocop is completed, he is without humanity and identity, like the original. And we do see his quest to find himself.

 

[SpideyFan866]

At the end of the film, he is more or less in the same state he was in at the end of the original.

 

[dark_b]

They probably want a human so people can relate. A robot as law enforcement would creep people out.

why cant they create fake humans inside the robots? they give them fake heads with fake skin and they will do what Keaton wants. if they will change Murphy into a full robot why not start with a robot?

 

[SpideyFan866]

They probably want a human so people can relate. A robot as law enforcement would creep people out.

Exactly it. However, they still want to be able to control him.

Free will and ties to his old life interferes with that.

 

[Mr.?]

You misunderstand. Murphy does lose all of his humanity and become what we saw when Robocop is completed in the original; a robot with 0 memory of who he was.

If you remember, Murphy still had his memories in the original until Morton said to wipe them. It was apart of the montage of clips during his construction.

And again, this movie focuses on what happens in that span of time.

So yes, he does remember who he is at first and is horrified at what they did (leading to a scene right after he wakes where he tries to haul ass out of Omnicorp's facility), but he does lose his memory. By time Robocop is completed, he is without humanity and identity, like the original. And we do see his quest to find himself.

I think you're completely wrong here. At the end of the original film Murphy regains his humanity and identity as Alex Murphy and not just a product of OCP. "Nice shooting son what's your name?" "...Murphy" that simple line says that Alex has regained his identity that they tried to take away from him.

 

[dark_b]

You misunderstand. Murphy does lose all of his humanity and become what we saw when Robocop is completed in the original; a robot with 0 memory of who he was.

If you remember, Murphy still had his memories in the original until Morton said to wipe them. It was apart of the montage of clips during his construction.

And again, this movie focuses on what happens in that span of time.

So yes, he does remember who he is at first and is horrified at what they did (leading to a scene right after he wakes where he tries to haul ass out of Omnicorp's facility), but he does lose his memory. By time Robocop is completed, he is without humanity and identity, like the original. And we do see his quest to find himself.

but in the original movie at that time he didnt save the city and he didnt talk to his family(wife and son). he didnt talk to his son in the house. he didnt talk and think like a normal human. he didnt overwite the whole system and got full control of himself. so in the sequel the story would be about him remembering what happened in the first 2014 movie?

 

[Gold Samurai]

I do get a sense that a big theme here will be the militarizing the police, which is actually an important, relevant issue.

Detroit is about one step away from becoming the future "Robocop" predicted.

 

[InJustice]

To anyone interested, here's a Q&A with Padilha (director of RoboCop 2014). There are some spoilers though, so be warned.

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/movi...-padilha-tackles-drone-politics-in-reboot/#/7

 

[chintai80]

reading these interviews with padilha is what gives me faith in the quality of this movie.
this isn't just a half-assed cash-grab, he's actually trying to create a story with social relevance and substance here.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

Padilha seems to really have a good grasp of the source material and what HE himself wants to achieve with his story and his film, I have faith in him that the film will turn out at least how he envisioned.

 

[jmc]

Much like the original film, Murphy in this new film will probably begin to recall some memories and emotions aka fighting his computer system. Omnicorp wants to completely control Murphy and any action that he takes. In the trailer, Oldman's character, Dr. Norton, says, ''the illusion of free will.'' Basically, Omnicorp sets up the RoboCop computer system to make Murphy think he is in control of everything he does, so I think as the film progresses, Oldman and Keaton want to ensure Murphy always thinks he is in control when they are truly controlling everything he does. They'll probably start messing around with his brain thus making him cold and robotic. His humanity stripped of him. A controlled product, but he'll probably then start recalling who is really was and he'll start fighting his own computer system. The ending, much like the original, Murphy in this version will understand who he really is by the end and a sense of his humanity restored.

Having zero control over your actions and having people screw around with your memories and emotions is VERY tragic and cruel and I think that is what Padilha is going for with this new RoboCop.

But not as cruel as having your family and life taken away completely is it? This one clearly hasn't had his life completely ruined nor does he have to relearn anything, all he would be doing in your situation is fighting off some mind control. I don't see how any of what you wrote is at all tragic, it's just an obstacle. Whilst his family is still in the picture and he knows exactly who he is there is no tragedy.

 

[terry78]

Basically it's a superhero story. He's the 6 Million Dollar Man more or less. Not saying that's a bad thing, but it is what it is.

 

[Dyson]

But not as cruel as having your family and life taken away completely is it? This one clearly hasn't had his life completely ruined nor does he have to relearn anything, all he would be doing in your situation is fighting off some mind control. I don't see how any of what you wrote is at all tragic, it's just an obstacle. Whilst his family is still in the picture and he knows exactly who he is there is no tragedy.

Being set up by the wants of a company isn't a tragedy? Having your body left in ruins isn't a tragedy? Having a company tinkering with your memories and emotions so you are made to be a cold, lifeless presence to the point where you don't remember your family and close friends anymore isn't a tragedy? Having your humanity taken away from you piece by piece and made into a product isn't a tragedy? Having a group of people control your thoughts and actions without you even knowing it isn't a tragedy?

What was done in the original film was beautifully done so I appreciate that Padilha and the writers are at least approaching this re-telling of a man who has his life taken from him in a different, modern way. I hope Padilha succeeds with this.

 

[dark_b]

its a tragedy that the robocop suit can not support Android. it only works with Windows 8. and the operating system is locked so Murphy can not download from the app store.

 

[Skrilla31]

Call me crazy but with this and the news of a supposed Terminator reboot coming our way soon...

... is it out of the realm of possibility that the endgame here is the long awaited Robocop v. Terminator movie? Especially considering now that crossovers and team up movies are what's hot right now?

 

[TheVileOne]

Doesn't seem feasible right now. Robocop is with MGM and Sony.

Terminator is with Annapurna and Paramount.

 

[Spade]

The Terminator canon has become complicated enough without trying to reconcile how OCP and Cyberdyne could exist in tandem. Plus, the pitch for a Terminator 5/reboot has changed so much over a few months that who could really know what it's about now.

 

[Teelie]

I played that game (Robocop vs Terminator) on the SNES back in the 90's and took down Skynet.

A crossover is very unlikely though. Besides the fact it's two different studios and the whole mess of the Terminator continuity I don't think there is a large demand to see it happen.

 

[Travesty]

I played that game (Robocop vs Terminator) on the SNES back in the 90's and took down Skynet.

The Genesis version was much better. One of the few times where a Genesis game was better than the SNES version.

 

[jmc]

Being set up by the wants of a company isn't a tragedy? Having your body left in ruins isn't a tragedy? Having a company tinkering with your memories and emotions so you are made to be a cold, lifeless presence to the point where you don't remember your family and close friends anymore isn't a tragedy? Having your humanity taken away from you piece by piece and made into a product isn't a tragedy? Having a group of people control your thoughts and actions without you even knowing it isn't a tragedy?

What was done in the original film was beautifully done so I appreciate that Padilha and the writers are at least approaching this re-telling of a man who has his life taken from him in a different, modern way. I hope Padilha succeeds with this.

When his wife gives consent to him being transformed then no it isn't.

 

[InJustice]

So I finally took the chance to watch RoboCop (pre-dates my time) last night.

All I can say is Padilha got his work cut out for him. What an awesome film it was.