Days of Future Past Should DOFP be used to reboot the X-Men franchise?

[psylockolussus]

Surely we don't need the spin-offs to be massive moneyspinners. They just need to be profitable, good movies and well received by fans and critics. If they make tons of money, then great. But as long as they make a profit and are good movies, they have done their job. That's the case with The Wolverine - it didn't do that well in the US but it has made money overall.

The other thing is that Fox has already announced Wolverine 3 and X Force, so we ARE getting these spin-offs or lead-in movies. It's no longer just a possibility that can be debated, it's a fact.

We also got an announcement/report for X-Men Origins: Magneto, Deadpool and even Young X-Men. Those films didn't see the day of light.

If Fox managed to put those in limbo (Deadpool) or managed to move from another project, X-Force being released is not certain at all. We don't even have a release date for that and 2015/2016 is starting to get crowded. By the way, Disney just booked the memorial weekend of 2016.

And yes we don't need every film to earn more than 500 million dollars but the studio/producers haven't thought of spending $50 million in a smaller X-Men film? Is that gonna change in the future when the other studios are releasing bigger films?

 

[Naji Assan]

We also got an announcement/report for X-Men Origins: Magneto, Deadpool and even Young X-Men. Those films didn't see the day of light.

The Magneto movie and Young X-Men were merged into X-Men First Class.

Deadpool will probably be absorbed into X-Force.

 

[marvelrobbins]

We also got an announcement/report for X-Men Origins: Magneto, Deadpool and even Young X-Men. Those films didn't see the day of light.

If Fox managed to put those in limbo (Deadpool) or managed to move from another project, X-Force being released is not certain at all. We don't even have a release date for that and 2015/2016 is starting to get crowded. By the way, Disney just booked the memorial weekend of 2016.

And yes we don't need every film to earn more than 500 million dollars but the studio/producers haven't thought of spending $50 million in a smaller X-Men film? Is that gonna change in the future when the other studios are releasing bigger films?

Untill DIsney announces a film for memorial weekend 2016 I don't know why
people discuss it.COme back when they announce what marvel films will be
coming In 2016.

 

[psylockolussus]

The Magneto movie and Young X-Men were merged into X-Men First Class.

Deadpool will probably be absorbed into X-Force.

See? They are not sticking to their plan, something gets in the way and suddenly its a different movie.

 

[psylockolussus]

Untill DIsney announces a film for memorial weekend 2016 I don't know why
people discuss it.COme back when they announce what marvel films will be
coming In 2016.

You made it sound like I just made it up

Well flash news Alice in Wonderland 2 will be released on May 27, 2016. Don't tell me thats not memorial weekend.
http://boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=changes&p=.htm

 

[marvelrobbins]

Full team films are better than indivual films on characters.

Bryan Singer's First class turned out better than wat the indiuval Origins:Magneto and first class films would have been based on what Is known.

Deadpool has more chances of being sucessful In X-force movie than a solo film especilly If Ryan Reynolds plays him again.

 

[marvelrobbins]

You made it sound like I just made it up

Well flash news Alice in Wonderland 2 will be released on May 27, 2016. Don't tell me thats not memorial weekend.
http://boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=changes&p=.htm

I heard nothing on Alice 2.Since no new marvel film was announced for 2016
on home page i thought this was just being reported that Disney was planning a marvel film that they won't say what It Is,and everyone else is suspose to stop and wonder.

 

[psylockolussus]

You made it sound like I just made it up

Well flash news Alice in Wonderland 2 will be released on May 27, 2016. Don't tell me thats not memorial weekend.
http://boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=changes&p=.htm

I'm waiting for your response about this, Marvelrobbins.

If you are gonna give me an attitude, make sure you know what you're talking about first.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I already said i was mistaken since i thought you were talking about new marvel film and no announcements were made on home page about it.

 

[psylockolussus]

I heard nothing on Alice 2.Since no new marvel film was announced for 2016
on home page i thought this was just being reported that Disney was planning a marvel film that they won't say what It Is,and everyone else is suspose to stop and wonder.

Yes because we know if someone says Disney, its automatically about Marvel.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Well lately all attention Is on their marvel and star wars films.

 

[psylockolussus]

Huh what? There's still Pixar and the Disney canon and Frozen will be released in more or less 2 weeks. And the trailer of Malificent came out this month.

You are assuming when someone brought up Disney, its automatically about a Marvel film, then you tell people "lets not start this Fox VS Disney war again". Geez. Infact you're the first person who always bring it up. When someone mentions about Disney, you automatically think people are pitting against a war between both studios.

 

[marvelrobbins]

When people on comic book film board bring up disney nowadays the assumination Is they are talking about a marvel film.If you don't mention another film how are people
suspose to be know your talking about non-marvel film.

Anyways if a x-related film comes out in summer 2016 It has to out at beging of may or In july.Alice has the memorial day weekend,and ASM3 comes out In june.

 

[psylockolussus]

Full team films are better than indivual films on characters.

Bryan Singer's First class turned out better than wat the indiuval Origins:Magneto and first class films would have been based on what Is known.

Deadpool has more chances of being sucessful In X-force movie than a solo film especilly If Ryan Reynolds plays him again.

So are you saying Wolverine 3 will not perform better than X-Force because its not a full-team film

Anyway, most people in this thread like to think if Fox announces something this year, it will automatically happen in the next few years. But based on what happened to the films that were reported to be in the works in the last few years, thats not the case at all.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

There's nothing to admit. Like X-Maniac said, we don't know what Fox's plans are post Days of Future Past, but we do know some kind of change is likely. That much has been obvious for months. For whatever reason, you're just starting to grasp this.

Agreed.

I'm not sure why some of you guys and gals are "shocked" that this change is coming; the writing has been on the wall for months. And personally I welcome it. Do you know what this could mean for these characters? ACCURACY.

When the first X-Men film came out there was no other game in town. Now, there is and FOX is clearly doing what's necessary to keep pace. In my opinion, the OT series always felt like another timeline anyway--definitely nothing from the 616 era of Marvel's X-Men. I don't recognize any of the characters on screen save Xavier and Magneto. Logan is there in spirit. But what makes Logan work in the comics is that the runt has a larger than life personality. That is lost with the 6'4 uber-hot Hugh Jackman (although I will forever applaud his performance).

But why not see these characters on the silver screen as they were intended to be? The comics have continued to sell for 40-plus years for a reason. Could it be because their character dynamics work? I want my Bobby/Ice-Man to be a jokester. I want my Storm to be Marvel's equivalent of a commanding Wonder Woman. And I want Scott in charge. These dynamics have worked for decades. And yet, we've gotten none of this over the last 13 years. Why the hell some would mourn this "Else-worlds" take on X-Men is just beyond me. I really don't understand it.

Nell, you say you've become emotionally invested with these characters. How? The only character that has ever been truly fleshed out is Wolverine. To smaller extents Xavier and Magneto have had their stories shared. But what about everyone else? We know little--if nothing at all--of the other X-Men.

And that's a shame.

 

[psylockolussus]

When people on comic book film board bring up disney nowadays the assumination Is they are talking about a marvel film.If you don't mention another film how are people
suspose to be know your talking about non-marvel film.

Not all people has that mentality, and stop thinking that way especially if you're gonna throw a fit on somebody.

And how are people suppose to know which Disney film I'm talking about? You could just ask me or look it up at the internet.

 

[Naji Assan]

See? They are not sticking to their plan, something gets in the way and suddenly its a different movie.

Nothing got in the way. They just saw no reason to make two good movies when they could merge them into one great movie.

Also, this was before The Avengers so the lead-ins will definitely have direct ties to the overarching plot that will culminate in the next X-Men.

X-Force is definitely being put ahead of most other things to shed some backstory on Apocalypse. Its serving the purpose Guardians of The Galaxy is serving for Thanos over at Marvel/Disney.

 

[psylockolussus]

Well lately all attention Is on their marvel and star wars films.

Not true at all.

Frozen has been getting my attention lately and not Star Wars.

 

[psylockolussus]

Nothing got in the way. They just saw no reason to make two good movies when they could merge them into one great movie.

Also, this was before The Avengers so the lead-ins will definitely have direct ties to the overarching plot that will culminate in the next X-Men.

X-Force is definitely being put ahead of most other things to shed some backstory on Apocalypse. Its serving the purpose Guardians of The Galaxy is serving for Thanos over at Marvel/Disney.

So Bryan Singer ditching/scrapping the story for the "Young X-Men" is not getting in the way. Tell that to Josh Schwratz who worked on the script for the project.

And second, there's nothing official about Apocalypse appearing in future X-Men movies.

 

[marvelrobbins]

So are you saying Wolverine 3 will not perform better than X-Force because its not a full-team film

Anyway, most people in this thread like to think if Fox announces something this year, it will automatically happen in the next few years. But based on what happened to the films that were reported to be in the works in the last few years, thats not the case at all.

Wolverine Is the exception to the solo film rule.I doudt Deadpool or gambit or
Cable would perform like an X-Men team film.And X-force will be the answer can a spin off team perform like the main team.

 

[Specter313]

See? They are not sticking to their plan, something gets in the way and suddenly its a different movie.

Um, no, yet again, you're twisting things around again to suit your needs. The Magneto movie and the idea of a young X-Men film EVOLVED into First Class. There's a difference between something "getting in the way" and a movie evolving into something else.

Perfect example? Know a little family movie by the name of E.T.? That was originally designed as a horror movie. But Spielberg became more interested in one idea in that original film about an alien being stuck on earth, and that film evolved into the classic film people know and love today.

It is common practice in films for DECADES that the original idea for a film doesn't always make it to the end, but becomes something else during the process and grows into something different. Sometimes they're little things, or sometimes they're big ones like a solo film becoming and ensemble. Stop making things up to suit your arguments.

 

[psylockolussus]

So Bryan Singer ditching/scrapping the story for the "Young X-Men" is not getting in the way. Tell that to Josh Schwratz who worked on the script for the project.

And second, there's nothing official about Apocalypse appearing in future X-Men movies.

Plus X-Men Origins: Wolverine was supposed to act as a lead-in to the Young X-Men movie. Thats why we saw Professor X saving Cyclops/Emma in Origins.

Obviously, they included that scene for a reason.

But Bryan Singer came back, he got in the way and made his own movie and Young X-Men didn't happen. Not that I'm sad about it. But something got in the way.

Wolverine Is the exception to the solo film rule.I doudt Deadpool or gambit or
Cable would perform like an X-Men team film.And X-force will be the answer can a spin off team perform like the main team.

Oh wait there's an exception, how surprising?! LOL! You should have said that earlier.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Agreed.

I'm not sure why some of you guys and gals are "shocked" that this change is coming; the writing has been on the wall for months. And personally I welcome it. Do you know what this could mean for these characters? ACCURACY.

When the first X-Men film came out there was no other game in town. Now, there is and FOX is clearly doing what's necessary to keep pace. In my opinion, the OT series always felt like another timeline anyway--definitely nothing from the 616 era of Marvel's X-Men. I don't recognize any of the characters on screen save Xavier and Magneto. Logan is there in spirit. But what makes Logan work in the comics is that the runt has a larger than life personality. That is lost with the 6'4 uber-hot Hugh Jackman (although I will forever applaud his performance).

But why not see these characters on the silver screen as they were intended to be? The comics have continued to sell for 40-plus years for a reason. Could it be because their character dynamics work? I want my Bobby/Ice-Man to be a jokester. I want my Storm to be Marvel's equivalent of a commanding Wonder Woman. And I want Scott in charge. These dynamics have worked for decades. And yet, we've gotten none of this over the last 13 years. Why the hell some would mourn this "Else-worlds" take on X-Men is just beyond me. I really don't understand it.

Nell, you say you've become emotionally invested with these characters. How? The only character that has ever been truly fleshed out is Wolverine. To smaller extents Xavier and Magneto have had their stories shared. But what about everyone else? We know little--if nothing at all--of the other X-Men.

And that's a shame.

Your convently ignoring the fact a full reboot would bring more ultimate influences to films.MS films have heavy ultimate influence.The avengers was
called based on ultimates with the avengers name.Amazing Spider-man has heavy ultimate influences.The FF appears to be based at least In part on
Ultimate FF.

The idea that a reboot would suddenly turn a perfect adaptan of 616 on screen isn't born out by evidance by how studios think.

You may welcome demise of series.Others won't.

 

[danoyse]

Not true at all.

Frozen has been getting my attention lately and not Star Wars.

I'd say you're in the minority on that one.

It's freaking Star Wars, for crying out loud.

 

[psylockolussus]

Minority or not, not all people have their attention on Star Wars. So its not "all attention is on Marvel and Star Wars films", there's also other Disney films out there, especially if you go outside of this forum. Theaters have playing trailers for Frozen and I've seen numurous TV spots for Frozen, do you think when people see that, they will think Star Wars. Most people probably don't know there's an upcoming Star Wars film.