Star Trek Beyond - Part 3

[Doctor Jones]

I saw this and I really liked it and enjoyed it. Nothing special but it ****s all over STID. This feels like the sequel we should have gotten after the promise of the first film. Indeed it feels like an OS episode in a good way. It felt more classic Trek at times than the Abrams films.

The story is fine, despite it being great in its 2/3's. The planet stuff intrigued me the most. Once they left and it got to the third act it became like a generic summer film with similar stakes. But that still managed to be fun with some creative ideas in the action.

Where this film excels in is its usage of the crew. This is not the Kirk and Spock-a-thon as the previous two films were. In fact, Kirk and Spock don't have as much interaction which is fine. Seeing Kirk with Chekov together was great. Here everybody shines and has something to do. I loved the change in them being split up and in their pairs. Finally, Bones and Spock together! This movie seemed to understand the crew's relationships the best. Scotty had a great sizeable role. My God, Uhura didn't feel completely useless. Kirk even was excellent. Finally a matured captain. He's no longer the guy of the last two. You can tell Pegg and the co-writer understood what needed to be done and what didn't need to be done.

Elba as Krull is better than Khan but not a little undercooked. The ideas behind him were fascinating but there was some missed opportunity in the themes they explored which really could have made it one of the best ST films. Add by God, there was scenes that breathed with actual quiet where the characters just talked. I gotta hand it to Lin, he handles ST better than Abrams did many times.

But I liked the simplicity of the film, as it reminded me of the earlier six ST films. Nothing fancy, but where the best ones were they were entertaining and worth the time.

A rock solid 8/10 for me. I could see myself liking this more over time too. This along with Civil War are probably going to the only big films of the summer I've seen and actually liked.

 

[Smilodon]

Film was awesome. Perhaps the best blockbuster film behind Civil War this year, and I think I had more pure fun in this film compared to CW. I know a lot of people were sleeping on this film and doubting Lin's abilities as a filmmaker to make anything other than FF films, but he just knocked it out of the park. Granted, he had Pegg/Jung helping him along the way with a steady script, but wow! Just a blast!

I'm not a big Trekkie so I can't really judge the nitty gritty aspects, but as a casual fan of the modern Trek films, it was really fun. Everyone just gets their moments, and it makes the loss of actors like Anton ache even more because the ensemble cast is just fantastic. This film just has a tremendous amount of heart and respect, and I'm glad they proved doubters wrong here.

Action got a bit too shaky for my tastes, which is saying something because I love the Bourne films. Hopefully they shore that up a bit and keep up these awesome cast interactions.

Spoiler

(And give Sulu another fight scene in the next film! Give John Cho more physical things to do!)

 

[kguillou]

I think I need to see this again, as someone who loved the ST '09 and Into Darkness, I can't understand why this film didn't resonate with me. I caught a late showing of it so maybe i was just tired and didn't get to fully absorb everything since my full attention wasn't on. I need to give this another watch.

Also, is it just me or was the cinematography noticeably darker in this film than the Abrams ones? I dunno, maybe I'm crazy but I felt in Abrams films' the colors really popped out a lot more and everything was more vibrant looking. Honestly, It was probably just my theater.

 

[Marvolo]

Who said that? The CGI is awesome. The space station that the Enterprise crew saves was incredible looking, it was something I've just not seen in any other sci-fi films.

NotSoLongAgo said it at the bottom of page 2.

Fun but nothing new. I dunno, the cast really elevates the material and makes it work but the story isn't anything particularly great. Tons of action. Krall was ok. I have to say though, the cgi got butt-ugly at times.

 

[Marvolo]

I think I need to see this again, as someone who loved the ST '09 and Into Darkness, I can't understand why this film didn't resonate with me. I caught a late showing of it so maybe i was just tired and didn't get to fully absorb everything since my full attention wasn't on. I need to give this another watch.

Also, is it just me or was the cinematography noticeably darker in this film than the Abrams ones? I dunno, maybe I'm crazy but I felt in Abrams films' the colors really popped out a lot more and everything was more vibrant looking. Honestly, It was probably just my theater.

Lin used a different cinematographer. He used Stephen F. Windon. He was the cinematographer of Fast 5 - Fast 8 and House of Wax. JJ's cinematographer for Star Trek 09 and STID was Dan Mindel. Different cinematographer and different director results in a different look.

 

[Smilodon]

I think I need to see this again, as someone who loved the ST '09 and Into Darkness, I can't understand why this film didn't resonate with me. I caught a late showing of it so maybe i was just tired and didn't get to fully absorb everything since my full attention wasn't on. I need to give this another watch.

Also, is it just me or was the cinematography noticeably darker in this film than the Abrams ones? I dunno, maybe I'm crazy but I felt in Abrams films' the colors really popped out a lot more and everything was more vibrant looking. Honestly, It was probably just my theater.

I wouldn't say darker as much as the coloring/lighting was more naturalistic. Especially since they weren't on the Enterprise for most of the film.
EDIT: That and of course having a different DP.

 

[Binker]

Anyone have a picture of the Enterprise A from STB?

 

[Marvolo]

Anyone have a picture of the Enterprise A from STB?

Is that the only thing you care about?

 

[InCali]

In my opinion no. I know some here hated Khan in Into Darkness, especially the hardcore Trek fans (which I thought I was a pretty hard core Trek fan, but apparently not).

Cumberbatch is a brilliant actor and I thought he did a great job bringing a unique perspective on a well known character.

Krall is a complex villian, and there's a very huge reveal about the villain that I thought was a good take. He is a villain that's more in the mold of Nero than Khan though. But I also really like Nero.

I'm going tonight and have intentionally stayed off this thread. I'm a lousy critic I guess because I liked both of the earlier movies and agree about Cumby. I think he's going to crush it as Dr. Strange (which is good because DS is one of my favs).

I'm sure I'll like this one too. The young Kirk in the car scene pulled me in immediately in the first one. I was laughing and thinking "What a little perro."

 

[flickchick85]

I definitely enjoyed this far more than STID. Krall was a good villain, and whoever said it felt more like a big-budget episode of the original series was spot on. Pine felt more like Kirk in this than ever before, imo. And I just have to say, while I know it's similar to several "futuristic" cinematic locales of the last few years, I really liked the design of Yorktown. Looked like an awesome place to live/work.

I'm really happy for Justin Lin. The guy seems born to play in the blockbuster franchise arena. Hope he's enjoying it.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

He can take over Transformers.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

I find it very hard to believe that the cgi in one of these films is "butt ugly". The last two films have some of the best cgi in modern cinema.

Well I dunno I'm no expert but I thought alot of sequences were noticeably bad. It was glaringly obvious in the first scene alone. And it's because the past films looked so great that I even bring it up.

 

[roach]

Enjoyed the film

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Just got back from seeing this and... Very much enjoyed this. I will say that I agree with those that say that above all the interaction with the main three of Kirk, Spock and Mckoy truly mirrored TOS, finally. Urban was given good material to work with and his moments with Quinto as Spock really sang. One or two quibbles aside these New Trek films have all been solid and entertaining for me. My mom and grandma both really enjoyed this one and they want to see it again.

 

[Marvolo]

Sooo happy this has been received so well by critics, average viewers, and fans. I just wish these movies received more at the box office. Paramount and the crew and directors and actors have knocked it out of the park with these new Trek films. These films deserve more than they are getting at the box office.

 

[Doctor Jones]

STID timing wise just didn't cut it. I'm not blaming Abrams for making a film in between but ideally you wanna strike when the iron is hot and ST is the type of franchise that needs that momentum. Plus you add that STID wasn't that good...

 

[Broseph44]

We always have to get into this about STID not being that good? It's not like that's a widely popular belief amongst many. Mostly amongst hardcore Trek fans. Meanwhile there are a lot of Trek fans that did enjoy it. And the GA enjoyed it a ton so. I just don't see why STID always has to be dragged into every conversation and automatically always labeled as not good or horrible.

 

[flickchick85]

I mean, it's the preceding installment. Comparisons are inevitable.

 

[Infinity9999x]

We always have to get into this about STID not being that good? It's not like that's a widely popular belief amongst many. Mostly amongst hardcore Trek fans. Meanwhile there are a lot of Trek fans that did enjoy it. And the GA enjoyed it a ton so. I just don't see why STID always has to be dragged into every conversation and automatically always labeled as not good or horrible.

It's in that category of film that TDKR is. Fanboys try to pass it off like it got lukewarm reactions overall, or even bad ones, when in reality the GA actually enjoyed it quite a bit.

 

[Broseph44]

I mean, it's the preceding installment. Comparisons are inevitable.

Yes but STID is not nearly as bad as some fans make it out to be. Especially if you go look at some of the other installments in this entire Trek film franchise. This reboot trilogy has been great. I haven't seen Beyond, but from the general consensus so far that seems to be the case.

 

[redhawk23]

It's in that category of film that TDKR is. Fanboys try to pass it off like it got lukewarm reactions overall, or even bad ones, when in reality the GA actually enjoyed it quite a bit.

Even among the general audience it's reputation has fallen and the lying about Kahn shenanigans have become notorious. That tends to be the only reason it's remembered, and not positively.

 

[Broseph44]

It's in that category of film that TDKR is. Fanboys try to pass it off like it got lukewarm reactions overall, or even bad ones, when in reality the GA actually enjoyed it quite a bit.

Exactly it's just a small group of the hardcore fans that think it was horrible.

 

[redhawk23]

Yes but STID is not nearly as bad as some fans make it out to be. Especially if you go look at some of the other installments in this entire Trek film franchise. This reboot trilogy has been great. I haven't seen Beyond, but from the general consensus so far that seems to be the case.

Into Darkness is slickly produced nut it honestly o e of the worst examples of big budget story telling up to that point. It took every negative movie trend, banking on nostalgia for borrowed impact, poor character development etc and cranked them all to the max. I was very excited for that movie and was blown away by just how bad of a movie it ended up being writing wise. By the time Spock was doing a KHAAAN scream I laughed but was honestly sad. It was such a sinking feeling. Orci and Kurtzman are a toxic influence.

 

[Broseph44]

Either way, I'm gonna try to see this over the weekend. Maybe on Sunday.

 

[Supercajun]

So

Spoiler

what does the new Enterprise-A look like

?

Here it is.

http://m.imgur.com/M3fIjzq

Notice the nacelles?