Superman Returns Suit, Muscle.. is Brandon the problem?

[StarvingArtist]

you are joking, ain't you?

Nope. He isn't.

 

[FEAR THE KNIGHT]

ohern does look the part. but youd be being ignorant if you say that looking the part is more important than acting the part, my friend. and you cannot say that-for a fact-routhe is a bad superman in terms of acting. so your arguments dead in the water.

point out where I said that looking the part is more important then acting the part?
Cause I NEVER SAID THAT!
To make a good Superman movie, and have an actor who can pull it off you need a person who both looks the part, and can act... Again two things that Routh doesn't have going for him.
The guy can't act, (got thrown off a tv show for bad acting) and he doesn't look the part at all...
All I said was that "look" wise O'hearn beats both Welling & Routh.
O'hearns acting is not something I know a whole lot off since he is an UNKNOWN, and unlike Routh wasn't thrown off a tv show for BAD ACTING!
You want a man who has the perfect blend of good acting, and the right look go clone Chris Reeve... HE HAD both parts down to a science...

 

[FEAR THE KNIGHT]

Definitely. We have no idea how Routh will ACT as Superman. I've heard most of the prophecies of doom surrounding the movie based on looks alone. This is the kind of reaction I heard at comic shops when Keaton was cast as Batman (and being eight years old at the time I'd only remembered him from movies like The Dream Team, Beetlejuice, and Mr. Mom so I was puzzled too), only to have many people (including my old man) recant and repent upon their first viewing of the film. Am I skeptical on the choice of an unproven unknown? A tad. But if Routh is as good a find as Jackman was, then a new "custodian" of the Superman mythos will be born next June. Besides, Reeve looked like a complete turbo-nerd before people had the chance to watch him fly. Major turbo-nerd.

Yeah but when Reeve bulked up, and was given the Superman make over he looked the part like no other... Routh looks more like mighty mouse then Superman... EVEN with the superman make over, and him working out.
Even though he didnt get to big he only got lean, and cut.

 

[KaptainKrypton]

Yeah but when Reeve bulked up, and was given the Superman make over he looked the part like no other... Routh looks more like mighty mouse then Superman... EVEN with the superman make over, and him working out.
Even though he didnt get to big he only got lean, and cut.

Reeve was hardly cut for the films. His diet was incorrectly carried out and he gained weight, though not all of it was muscle (hence the high trunks). I've seen a grip of photos where Reeve didn't have half the musculature that Routh has. Reeve may have outweighed him, but the extra pounds that were on him weren't good ones. Not to toot my own horn, but I can spot flab a mile away. I train people for a living. Looking at Routh, his physique smears Reeve's hands down. Reeve was his leanest in Superman IV, and that was actually when his face and neck looked the best because he wasn't too puffy from David Prowse feeding him garbage and working him through an archaic lifting regimen. The only problem was that when he dropped all the fat, he shrunk up a little.

 

[Excel]

so basically fears complaining that he isnt christopher reeve. ok. makes sense to me.

 

[sf2]

so basically fears complaining that he isnt christopher reeve. ok. makes sense to me.

No, it isn't. and we know the fact that he had gone. it's more than that.

i'm one of those who don't like neither TW nor JC. we want an unknown and when singer gave us BR, we were very happy. he is good looking and physically fit the role. however, after seeing all his supes photos till now, we found that he just looks like a guy in bluetights. something is missing... something isn't right and we called it 'it'.

is it still too early for him to radiate the quality of 'it'?

here are some of the photos of him as supes we have seen. can you see 'it' in him?

 

[Blade Runner]

I believe that bottum left picture is a manip, the original picture is much worse looking.

 

[Pickle-El]

No, it isn't. and we know the fact that he had gone. it's more than that.

i'm one of those who don't like neither TW nor JC. we want an unknown and when singer gave us BR, we were very happy. he is good looking and physically fit the role. however, after seeing all his supes photos till now, we found that he just looks like a guy in bluetights. something is missing... something isn't right and we called it 'it'.

is it still too early for him to radiate the quality of 'it'?

here are some of the photos of him as supes we have seen. can you see 'it' in him?

Yes, C.Reeve......that's the 'it' you ARE referring to correct? (because according to 'real' Superman fans, no one else has/will come close)

Should that be the case, allow me to let you in on a little secret....Hindsight is always 20/20.

 

[sf2]

Yes, C.Reeve......that's the 'it' you ARE referring to correct? (because according to 'real' Superman fans, no one else has/will come close)

Should that be the case, allow me to let you in on a little secret....Hindsight is always 20/20.

NO!!! the "it" isn't C.Reeve.
i can see the "it" quality in Clive Owen. and he doesn't look a bit like Reeve.
anyway, i just can't embrace him like you do... just not yet...

 

[Nightwing1977]

It obvious to me FEAR is nothing but a troll who keep bashing SR & ranting on it with no logic, while also making up poor excuses. I thought trolls are not allow on a forum that is about debating a movie, not bash it over & over. Isn't that a way to get banned? And it amusing he keep bringing up that Routh was fired from some soap opera which was a long time ago. Any good talent can get fired if a director don't like the actor doing the part. I bet if Christopher Reeve was in Routh's shoes instead on the soap opera, he would been fired as well. Singer don't look for people who were fired from tv show years ago. He look for a talent unknown & it seem like this will prove Routh has it.

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

I look at those pictures and see Superman..Did you really see dean cain as superman until he was in the suit.?


Man i can't wait to see him in the first teaser.

 

[dark_b]

No, it isn't. and we know the fact that he had gone. it's more than that.

i'm one of those who don't like neither TW nor JC. we want an unknown and when singer gave us BR, we were very happy. he is good looking and physically fit the role. however, after seeing all his supes photos till now, we found that he just looks like a guy in bluetights. something is missing... something isn't right and we called it 'it'.

is it still too early for him to radiate the quality of 'it'?

here are some of the photos of him as supes we have seen. can you see 'it' in him?

i was not born when the first superman was out. so i saw first the movie and than the pics. i think that the movie will show us if he was a good choice or a bad.

p.s. from all pics only three are official....... and their are the best. behind the scene pics dont count.

 

[Venom71]

MIKE OHEARN is better then both Routh or Welling, and he is an UNKNOWN!

AND HE COULDN'T ACT HIS WAY OUT OF A PAPER BAG...HE DID A FAN MADE FILM...HE WAS TESTED BY SINGER AND DIDN'T GET THE PART.

 

[Saph]

After seeing all the pictures of Routh in one place, I now think he doesn't look like Superman.

He has to convince me he's Superman in Superman Returns, and if he doesn't, then that's the whole film ruined, isn't it?

 

[Venom71]

I look at those pictures and see Superman..Did you really see dean cain as superman until he was in the suit.?


Man i can't wait to see him in the first teaser.

I agree...I see Superman in those pics

 

[FEAR THE KNIGHT]

After seeing all the pictures of Routh in one place, I now think he doesn't look like Superman.

He has to convince me he's Superman in Superman Returns, and if he doesn't, then that's the whole film ruined, isn't it?

dude has a long way to go before im sold on him being superman... I can't see him as Superboy let alone Superman...

 

[Nightwing1977]

After seeing all the pictures of Routh in one place, I now think he doesn't look like Superman.

He has to convince me he's Superman in Superman Returns, and if he doesn't, then that's the whole film ruined, isn't it?

Then why you have him on your avatar if you don't seem confident & that he don't look the part? I think you're doing it again.

 

[Thot]

In all fairness....Routh deserves the chance to prove himself as Supes in the upcoming film. He may very well pull it off. I am willing to give him that chance, I'll be in line for the movie next summer. BUT,...and it's (as Pee Wee said) a Big "BUT", the photos released so far are quite underwhelming and of great concern. The suit really bites and Routh's physique is questionable. The combination is not encouraging so far. I WANT to like this movie and have been anticipating a new Superman film for many moons, but I'm disappointed by what I've seen so far.

 

[Saph]

Then why you have him on your avatar if you don't seem confident & that he don't look the part? I think you're doing it again.

It doesn't stop the shot from looking cool, does it?

Oh, and you decided to ignore my comment on how i'm giving Routh a chance.

 

[afan]

Here's something I find interesting and contradictory.

Obviously a heated debate has arisen regarding whether Routh has the Superman look, and yet there seems to be a unilateral agreement that he exudes Clark Kent.
Now as many posters have stated, the glasses are at best a very flimsy disguise; Clark and Superman are obviously the same person to the audience.
So how does this happen; where exactly does Routh lose the look?
Do the clothes truly make the man?

 

[antmanx68]

Reeve was hardly cut for the films. His diet was incorrectly carried out and he gained weight, though not all of it was muscle (hence the high trunks). I've seen a grip of photos where Reeve didn't have half the musculature that Routh has. Reeve may have outweighed him, but the extra pounds that were on him weren't good ones. Not to toot my own horn, but I can spot flab a mile away. I train people for a living. Looking at Routh, his physique smears Reeve's hands down. Reeve was his leanest in Superman IV, and that was actually when his face and neck looked the best because he wasn't too puffy from David Prowse feeding him garbage and working him through an archaic lifting regimen. The only problem was that when he dropped all the fat, he shrunk up a little.

REally? Care to post some photos illustrating all these "bad" pounds that Reeve was carrying around? Because not only did he have some good size, but his chisled face and well defined neck area definitely gives the appearance of "cut", certainly moreso than Routh and his cherubic face.

I havent seen any pictures of Reeve where he has been anything but what many fans describe as Superman: Large size, muscular, not overly ripped.

 

[King Krypton]

It obvious to me FEAR is nothing but a troll who keep bashing SR & ranting on it with no logic, while also making up poor excuses. I thought trolls are not allow on a forum that is about debating a movie, not bash it over & over. Isn't that a way to get banned? And it amusing he keep bringing up that Routh was fired from some soap opera which was a long time ago. Any good talent can get fired if a director don't like the actor doing the part.

I think it bears mentioning that FEAR is Fanboy Xtream/BladeRunner (not to be confused with the other Blade Runner)/whatever other names he uses at The Kryptonian, who was banned earlier this year for a very notorious IM attack on one of the film's creative personnel. He's had it in for Routh from the instant he was cast, and has been violently demanding either Welling (and more recently, O'Hearn as sloppy seconds) to replace him, never mind that Welling said he never wanted the part. He's been out for blood almost from the very beginning.

As for Reeve's build in Superman IV, he didn't weight-train for that film due to a back injury he sustained (herniated disk). He opted for doing 200 or more sit-ups a day in order to firm up for the film. Hence, Superman's thinner, slightly blocker look in that film.

 

[Excel]

the "it" their speaking of SHOULD be the actors ability to portray the character, not their look.

 

[Excel]

and dont post pics of reeve when hes in his thrites as superman. routhe is what...25? post pics of reeve then. in his first superman film he was hardly cut. routhe imop is probably more cut then reeve was.

 

[Saph]

and dont post pics of reeve when hes in his thrites as superman. routhe is what...25? post pics of reeve then. in his first superman film he was hardly cut. routhe imop is probably more cut then reeve was.

So what are you saying? Don't post picture of Reeve showing him in better shape than Routh?