Saph said:I saw this manip:
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Kudos to who made it.
Saph said:2. Singer not telling Routh to bulk up.
Is it really the fault of them, or is it someone else? Is it..
..Routh?
Me thinks you really need to lighten up some Saph. Yes I may act childish sometimes...but I am a child at heart...I will never grow up....I am a Toys R' Us Kid! Nothing wrong with that BTWSaph said:But did they hate the suit likers for liking the suit, or a different reason? I think it was the latter.
Why suit haters hate the suit likers is:
Matches Malone- Matches posts in a condescending manner, acting like he's talking down to the suit haters, even when they make valid points. He also brings up other things that posters have said to dismiss their arguments.
Milkman- Milkman's "It's still red so nyah" attitude shows lack of maturity and understanding of Superman. He dismisses things that make Superman SUPERMAN, and this frustrates suit likers because they are arguing with a person that does not fully understand what he is talking about. When suit haters explain, why he is wrong, he replies with posts that actually prove our point, but the suit likers team up with Milkman so he 'wins'.
Venom71- He acts like a child, refusing to hear anything wrong about the suit, dismisses facts, and acts like hes right when he's been proven wrong. The suit likers don't care about his childishness because they agree with him.
There are other people I can talk about, also.
IMO their is nothing wrong with the suit....what facts? Me Wrong? Never 
Saph said:The two prominent complaints on these boards are:
1. The suit.
2. The muscle.
Any underwhelming presences caused by these 'problems' in Superman pictures, are blamed on:
1. The Costume Designer
2. Singer not telling Routh to bulk up.
Is it really the fault of them, or is it someone else? Is it..
..Routh?
I'm no Wellingite. I supported Routh when he was cast. Whenever I disliked something in this movie, I never blamed Routh.
Until now.
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We're all familiar with this picture. It flared up the argument on Routh's size, because this picture shows Routh as being very skinny, while other pictures show Reeve size.
I saw this manip:
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Kudos to who made it.
This manip is, obviously, just Reeve pasted on Routh's body. And look at the difference.
The suit doesn't look so bad.
He doesn't look so small.
It appears that it is the actor that determines how things appear, not the suit, or his actual size.
And Routh doesn't create the same impression. Will he surpass Reeve? Not likely, going by these pictures.
Routh still needs to show us if he can handle the Man of Steel. He has the voice, but does he have the rest?

dark_b said:
Saph said:
Scorpion said:How SAD and PATHETIC is this? Chris Reeve's head on that loser WRALFF's body make sthis pic a 1,000,000 times better! Hilarious!!!
FEAR THE KNIGHT said:lol you know even Routh looks better then Nick Cage... But atleast we know Cage can act...This one could go either way! lol
Captain Villa said:as someone who is built like Reeve was, it is not possible to "bulk" up and look big in a short amount of time or possibly in a longer time.
Only short ass people can bulk up and look big. Large people in height, simply get toned.
You either have a trade off. Tall and built or above average and big.
I will go for the tall, IF and IF he is built and toned.
dnanosebleed said:How did Bale do it then? He's not exactly short.
is "and" backwards.dark_b said:
sorry.......... i was trying to tell that i think that he has got good genes. bale was telling thatt he never worked out but he always had muscles. hes just on of those lucky guysnosebleed said:is "and" backwards.
nosebleed said:How did Bale do it then? He's not exactly short.
Captain Villa said:Bale is NOT tall, in the true sense. He may top 6' but being 6'4" is a different issue.
nosebleed said:If Bale is 6' then he's only 2" shorter than Routh. Not that big of a difference.
Agentdemon said:No, bale is 6'2''. Go to gettyimages and search for Batman begin's opening and you'll see him side by side with Freeman and Liam Neeson.
It was on the bat hype, that quote.Agentdemon said:Batgirl, I never saw an interview where bale said he was 6 foot but from judging from the getty images he's approx. 2 inches shorter than neeson( who's 6'4'') and about as tall as freeman who's 6'2'' 1/2.