Age of Ultron The Avengers 2! The Official News and Speculation Thread - Upgrade section 5 - - - - Part 13

[Vartha]

We don't know that yet.

I still have the nagging suspicion that Hank Pym, who is seen to be considerably older in the MCU, worked with Howard Stark to create artificial intelligeance.

And naturally (like he did with the Arc Reactor technology), Tony used his father and Pym's work to create J.A.R.V.I.S. and Ultron.

Or maybe, it was Howard who designed Ultron, betraying Hank in the process.


Either way, I very much believe that, while he doesn't create Ultron himself, Hank Pym does create the technology that makes him (and J.A.R.V.I.S.) possible.

I completely agree. To me it makes sense, and even possibly even connect that whole idea with the first years of SHIELD after Howard Starts is in the 50's

 

[cherokeesam]

I hope the final battle with Ultron is somewhat like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz5rx6o6Vt8

I hope it's more like this:

[YT]nxPwRvNphdY[/YT]

 

[Vartha]

Change the "thee" into "you" and it's pretty normal, especially compared to plenty of things he's said before in the movies. Thor doesn't talk exactly like in the comics but he doesn't talk like the modern humans either.

there are still people who use "thee" in the states on a daily bases lol

 

[Crimson King]

I hope it's more like this:

[YT]nxPwRvNphdY[/YT]

Strung together, the cutscenes in that game make up one of my favorite Marvel movies.

 

[DyeLorean]

I have a hunch that Loki will be an ally in Avengers 3.

 

[BoredGuy]

I wasn't a huge fan of the event, per se
But "Siege" could probably be made into a pretty epic storyline for an Avengers movie

 

[Lord]

They speak all languages, That's why you see different "races" of Asgardians too

Hoow do you know that? By the way, is Thanos's main language english too?

 

[Vartha]

Hoow do you know that? By the way, is Thanos's main language english too?

They hinted at it back in Thor. They visited here a lot back then, not just Thor and the AoS Episode The Well covered it too I believe.

I'm pretty sure it is, I never really thought about it lol The comics never covered it really

 

[Lord]

In the comics i usually take it that it is being automatically translated, many even have a box saying so. Either way i understand why this is done, makes everything easier to follow

 

[Son of Coul]

While i don't have an issue with the line being used I am sick and tired of the incessant request of that line being used on these boards.

Same. It's a nice line and it'd be cool if it showed up during the right moment, but it's a pretty basic line on its own. Wouldn't be as hard to make work as "Avengers Assemble" which is in more difficult territory to pull off imo.

 

[samsnee]

I'd rather hear "Rubber baby buggy bumpers" personally.

 

[Doppelganger]

Here are my plot speculations:

Cap 2 spoilers.

Spoiler

When Strucker tries to use the scepter of Loki (atained in cap 2) on Banner:
a) it doesn't work out and he Hulks out
b) it works

Either way: Hulkbuster comes in to deal with the Hulk

Tony Stark realizes the magnitude of the problem. Strucker can lie low and use the scepter to his advantage and Ahiel is unble to step up to the threat

to respond Tony builds the Ultrons because they can not be affected by the scepter and can fight Struckers endless parade of mindcontrolled goons

after a long and painful campaign of back and forth the presumably final battle occurs

The Maximoffs are freed from Struckers control and flee, Strucker is defeated but something happens (Wandas Powers?) and Ulron goes rogue.

He deprives tony of all suits. Warmachine needs to step up (last suit out of Ultrons control)

The Battles with Ultron go back and forth

On the way to the final encounter the twins join up (a) to say thanks for helping us out and (b) to not die to Ultron

final battle Hawkeye dies heroically
Aftermath:
Tony is held responsible for the Ultron disaster
Hulk and the twins are discredited (even if they were only fighting for Strucker under mind control)
Asgardians in General and Thor in particular are seen as enemies of man kind that tried to pull this scepter crap twice or at least held responsible for letting it slip into human hands -> thor leaves to check out what the heck is going on
Only cap/ War Machine and Widow emerge -> time for the next round of avengers to step up.

Anyway I just felt like sharing my thoughts. After seeing the Hulkbuster everything just went on overdrive in my head and I had to get it out of the system.

 

[ctsketch]

That other site has a still from the TWS mid credits scene showing

Spoiler

Wanda levitating stuff

 

[NickNitro]

I wasn't a huge fan of the event, per se
But "Siege" could probably be made into a pretty epic storyline for an Avengers movie

You can't do Siege because Marvel can't use Norman Osborn right? I loved Siege story line as well.

So apparently Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver aren't associated with The Inhumans either?

Idk if this was covered earlier but I'm not going through and reading all these pages lol

Marvel Exec: Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch Won't Be Inhumans

http://www.stack.com/2014/03/18/quicksilver-scarlet-witch-inhuman/

 

[Lord]

Certain storylines weren't very good but had great premises, you can simply take those for the movies

 

[Hyde]

Such as Age of Ultron

All that concept art was awesome. I guess the rumours that the scenes they were shooting in South Africa was a Hulkbuster/Hulk fight were true. Perhaps it's a flash-forward into the 'Age of Ultron' and the Hulkbuster armour is under Ultron's control?

 

[Tony Stark]

You can't do Siege because Marvel can't use Norman Osborn right? I loved Siege story line as well.

So apparently Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver aren't associated with The Inhumans either?

Idk if this was covered earlier but I'm not going through and reading all these pages lol

Marvel Exec: Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch Won't Be Inhumans

http://www.stack.com/2014/03/18/quicksilver-scarlet-witch-inhuman/

While they can't use the term "mutant" I think they are going to all but refer to them as such. I believe they will have discovered their powers at an early age, and they will be inherent.

What's more curious is their lineage. I believe they will intentionally leave that blank.

 

[Loki882]

Here are my plot speculations:

Cap 2 spoilers.

Spoiler

When Strucker tries to use the scepter of Loki (atained in cap 2) on Banner:
a) it doesn't work out and he Hulks out
b) it works

Either way: Hulkbuster comes in to deal with the Hulk

Tony Stark realizes the magnitude of the problem. Strucker can lie low and use the scepter to his advantage and Ahiel is unble to step up to the threat

to respond Tony builds the Ultrons because they can not be affected by the scepter and can fight Struckers endless parade of mindcontrolled goons

after a long and painful campaign of back and forth the presumably final battle occurs

The Maximoffs are freed from Struckers control and flee, Strucker is defeated but something happens (Wandas Powers?) and Ulron goes rogue.

He deprives tony of all suits. Warmachine needs to step up (last suit out of Ultrons control)

The Battles with Ultron go back and forth

On the way to the final encounter the twins join up (a) to say thanks for helping us out and (b) to not die to Ultron

final battle Hawkeye dies heroically
Aftermath:
Tony is held responsible for the Ultron disaster
Hulk and the twins are discredited (even if they were only fighting for Strucker under mind control)
Asgardians in General and Thor in particular are seen as enemies of man kind that tried to pull this scepter crap twice or at least held responsible for letting it slip into human hands -> thor leaves to check out what the heck is going on
Only cap/ War Machine and Widow emerge -> time for the next round of avengers to step up.

Anyway I just felt like sharing my thoughts. After seeing the Hulkbuster everything just went on overdrive in my head and I had to get it out of the system.

Hawkeye's not going to die and the team is not going to radically change. We may get one or two new one's in Avengers 3 but the core will still be there.

 

[Crimson King]

If mutant genes are a thing in the MCU now, there's no reason you have to worry about lineage. Mutations happen. It shouldn't take a powerful mutant to start the process. After all, the Magneto thing was a retcon, so there shouldn't be any pressure to have them come from a specific mutant source.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Hawkeye may not die in Avengers 2 but I hope he shows up somewhere in Phase 3 before Avengers 3.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Hawkeye and Widow are going to have serious bonding time with the twins.

 

[C. Lee]

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[Mr. Dent]

While they can't use the term "mutant" I think they are going to all but refer to them as such. I believe they will have discovered their powers at an early age, and they will be inherent.

What's more curious is their lineage. I believe they will intentionally leave that blank.

Or they're just super soldiers.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I came back to see the new post, and then I saw Lee's post under mine. I was like, what did I do????

Or they're just super soldiers.

I really think they will be "special".

 

[Doppelganger]

Hawkeye's not going to die and the team is not going to radically change. We may get one or two new one's in Avengers 3 but the core will still be there.

Maybe. Tahts why its called speculation
I just got the idea of a little rotation from that special yesterday someone was going on about the changing make up of the avengers and that he loved that so I thought if we end up in a different place after the film... who knows

anyway I think the fall out will at least have some of them busy till the next avengers film or their next solo movie.

And I read somewhere (http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=464391) that someone was supposedly going to die. So I guessed on Hawkeye because we got more Black Widow coming. Cap and Thor will have future movies, killing of War Machine would hit the minority quota and Iron Man and Hulk are extremely popular so killing one of them would be rather bold.