Age of Ultron The Avengers 2! The Official News and Speculation Thread - Upgrade section 5 - - - - - - - - Part 17

[Loki882]

Evidently you didn't listen to what Gordon told Batman at the end of Begins. Joker took on an outlandish persona because of Batman's arrival.

Anyway... i still think Stark perfected Extremis and used it on himself. How else could he have stabilised Pepper? How else could he have the arc reactor removed?

Sloppy writing. Seriously, they build up Extremis as being this really serious threat that's hard to fix for the entire movie, and then just hand-wave it at the end. We never even SEE Tony fix Pepper, he just mentions it in a throwaway line. That was BS.

 

[DrCosmic]

I dunno, they implied that Extremis wasn't a big deal for Tony at the 99 party. He fixed it a long time ago. It's not sloppy writing for him to be able to fix it even better ten years later sober with more time than five minutes to think about it.

MCU Extremis is totally unrelated to 616 Extremis. In the comics, Extremis is a nanotech virus, that doesn't just heal you, but connects your mind to machinery. In the MCU, Extremis is biological/chemical, and turns your body into a thermal engine. There's no way to get hot enough to interact with machines. There's no 'frequency of heat' that will allow me to talk to computers. MCU Extremis is forever separate from 616 Extremis. They do not match up, overlap or blend. It's two separate things.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

"But I had this twenty years ago when I was drunk, I can sort it out. I fix stuff."

 

[TheVision]

This reminds me of the line in Avengers when Maria Hill asks Tony when he became an expert on *sciency science*, he says: Last night.

 

[Marc Spector]

The chip that was inserted in the brains of the Extremis users might connect their minds to the machine. It's not like the nanotech virus in the comics, but their minds might have been connected to something...

Simmons said there's an emotional component to Extremis. Brandt, and many of the other Extremis users, seemed kinda mad at Tony for no reason. One AIM employee says "these people are weird" and gives up. The Extremis soldiers had no real reason to attack Tony... I think Killian forced them to.. Simmons also said the centipede soldiers were being forced to fight against their will.

Killian invented the chip that goes into the brain slot, and had tech that could gain a "live feed" to the brain. Similar to the machine that allows memories to be seen. Killian also claimed to know what every single area of the brain did.

 

[Dr. Evil]

This reminds me of the line in Avengers when Maria Hill asks Tony when he became an expert on *sciency science*, he says: Last night.

Well, as I learned from Bill Nye the Science Guy "Science rules!"

 

[Loki882]

I dunno, they implied that Extremis wasn't a big deal for Tony at the 99 party. He fixed it a long time ago. It's not sloppy writing for him to be able to fix it even better ten years later sober with more time than five minutes to think about it.

MCU Extremis is totally unrelated to 616 Extremis. In the comics, Extremis is a nanotech virus, that doesn't just heal you, but connects your mind to machinery. In the MCU, Extremis is biological/chemical, and turns your body into a thermal engine. There's no way to get hot enough to interact with machines. There's no 'frequency of heat' that will allow me to talk to computers. MCU Extremis is forever separate from 616 Extremis. They do not match up, overlap or blend. It's two separate things.

Then show it. Don't just mention it in a throwaway line. There's this thing in fiction called "show don't tell" and that scene failed big time.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

When Loki fell into the abyss he was "rescued" by Thanos. Or his minions. Perhaps a similar fate will befall Skull. Wouldnt surprise me if the big guy knew precisely where in the universe schmidt got sucked to. It would make for an interesting mid credits lead-in to both cap3 and Avengers 3 (or my idea for an MCU wide crossover film simply entitled MARVELS. Coming in 2018!).

 

[The Endless]

Hmmm you know, a film based on MARVELS would be pretty awesome. From the POV of a journalist or something.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

That would be cool. But I was just talking about using the name not the storyline. Its great branding for Marvel and it encompasses ALL the superheroes in the MCU, not just the Avengers.

An adaptation of that story could be done as a Netflix show or limited series. Which would be cool.

I also think that "marvels" would be a better substitute for mutants than "miracles". Especially since it doesn't look like the MCU has any plans to differentiate between supes based on heredity or genetics.

 

[Shikamaru]

I agree "marvels" would suit mutants better than "miracles".

"This is no longer an age of spies. Nor an age of heroes. But an Age of Marvels. And there is nothing scarier than a Marvel."

Maybe it would have been a bit too on-the-nose, but I would have preferred that.

 

[ctsketch]

The chip that was inserted in the brains of the Extremis users might connect their minds to the machine. It's not like the nanotech virus in the comics, but their minds might have been connected to something...

Simmons said there's an emotional component to Extremis. Brandt, and many of the other Extremis users, seemed kinda mad at Tony for no reason. One AIM employee says "these people are weird" and gives up. The Extremis soldiers had no real reason to attack Tony... I think Killian forced them to.. Simmons also said the centipede soldiers were being forced to fight against their will.

Killian invented the chip that goes into the brain slot, and had tech that could gain a "live feed" to the brain. Similar to the machine that allows memories to be seen. Killian also claimed to know what every single area of the brain did.

There were no brain chips...what movie did YOU watch?

 

[Silvermoon]

The chip that was inserted in the brains of the Extremis users might connect their minds to the machine. It's not like the nanotech virus in the comics, but their minds might have been connected to something...

Simmons said there's an emotional component to Extremis. Brandt, and many of the other Extremis users, seemed kinda mad at Tony for no reason. One AIM employee says "these people are weird" and gives up. The Extremis soldiers had no real reason to attack Tony... I think Killian forced them to.. Simmons also said the centipede soldiers were being forced to fight against their will.

Killian invented the chip that goes into the brain slot, and had tech that could gain a "live feed" to the brain. Similar to the machine that allows memories to be seen. Killian also claimed to know what every single area of the brain did.

Killian said there was an empty slot in the brain, as far as I can recall - he never said exactly how they got Extremis in there (chip or otherwise).

Also, be a little cautious in comparing AOS's Centipede soldiers to the Extremis soldiers in IM3. Centipede has more than just Extremis screwing them up (they had Extremis, a version of a super soldier serum, some gamma radiation thrown in, as well as Chitauri tech, as they said in the pilot episode, basically a cocktail of every known source of superpowers they could get their hands on)

 

[TeeKay]

I agree "marvels" would suit mutants better than "miracles".

"This is no longer an age of spies. Nor an age of heroes. But an Age of Marvels. And there is nothing scarier than a Marvel."

Maybe it would have been a bit too on-the-nose, but I would have preferred that.

Are you actually serious? This made me laugh, sorry.

 

[Shikamaru]

Yep. I'm serious.

 

[TeeKay]

"This is no longer an age of Warner Bros. Nor an age of Sony. But an Age of Marvel. And there is nothing scarier than Marvel."

That's more fitting.

 

[Shikamaru]

That's the joke. It's a double entendre.

 

[TeeKay]

That's the joke. It's a double entendre.

oh, Good one then.

 

[TheVision]

"This is no longer an age of Warner Bros. Nor an age of Sony. But the Age of Marvel Studios. And there is nothing scarier than Marvel Studios."

I love that quote!

Someone said that the MCU is like the new Star Wars, Id agree. Im not a SW geek or a Trekkie although I do like both, I am however a devoted MCU geek. I just love the whole universe they have set up.

 

[TeeKay]

 

[Thundercracker]

Then show it. Don't just mention it in a throwaway line. There's this thing in fiction called "show don't tell" and that scene failed big time.

I agree with that rule for the most part but it doesn't have to apply for every minor detail when a simple line of dialogue will suffice. What would have made it better or more interesting, especially at the end of the film? A scene of Tony sitting in front of a holographic display of Extremis equations, exclaiming "Eureka! I've solved it. Jarvis, prep Pepper for surgery." Then showing another scene of Pepper in surgery? C'mon,man, the line was enough. Were you also irritated that they didn't show how they fished Cap's shield out of the river in TWS?

When Loki fell into the abyss he was "rescued" by Thanos. Or his minions. Perhaps a similar fate will befall Skull. Wouldnt surprise me if the big guy knew precisely where in the universe schmidt got sucked to. It would make for an interesting mid credits lead-in to both cap3 and Avengers 3.

As much as I want Red Skull to return, I hope they can find a way of bringing him back without it involving Thanos. As you said Loki was taken in by him and we know [BLACKOUT]various characters (Nebula & Gamora to name two) in GotG[/BLACKOUT] will have ties to him as well. In the interest of keeping the universe from feeling too constrained, I think it's better that Thanos not be connected to everything or everybody that happens to pass through the MCU cosmos. Just my 2 cents on that subject regarding the Red Skull's current status.

 

[TheFirstAvenger]

Any idea what's going on here?

 

[TheVision]

^^ Awesome! Check my new signature video out, one of my fav MCU moments with RDJ

 

[Ghostcrow13]

Any idea what's going on here?

Looks like they are just visiting a set being built or something

 

[Ant-manic]

^^ Awesome! Check my new signature video out, one of my fav MCU moments with RDJ

they need to hurry up with cloning technology so RDj can keep playing Tony Stark.