Age of Ultron The Avengers 2! The Official News and Speculation Thread - Upgrade section 5 - - - - - - - - Part 17

[BatsDC]

As far as I'm concerned Zola's very much dead, until a director wants to use him again down the line.

 

[cherokeesam]

As far as I'm concerned Zola's very much dead, until a director wants to use him again down the line.

Which can happen as early as next year. Funny how that works.
Also, do you know nothing about the cyberpunk genre at all? Or how fictional AIs work? Maybe a refresher would be in order.

 

[The Endless]

The Zola AI was stored in those hundreds of databanks that got blown up. If he did somehow escape, it could only be a remnant, not him in his entirety.

 

[Iceman]

I definitely can't wait to see what our first theatrical poster for the film will look like, especially since it'll be a great way to conclude the list of Phase 2 Posters that we've gotten, which I feel were a huge step up from the Phase 1 Posters.

Yep, big improvement. Will be very interested to see how SW & QS (& Cap's new costume) look on the posters and shame they won't be able to use Vision.

 

[Silvermoon]

That is very likely; who has theUSB drive at present? Fury or Cap?
Why did the data on the USB need to be opened at that camp.. i may have missed that part in the movie

I'm not certain it *needed* to be opened at the camp. It's more that, Widow couldn't crack the encryption on it at the Apple store because there was 'some type' of AI that was rewriting itself to counteract her attempts (so I think it's safe to say some aspect of Zola was on the flash drive). She instead used a tracer program SHIELD had developed to try and at least track down where the data had originated from (so that they could go check out and see if they could get anything from the source) - that led them to Camp Leigh. When she saw the modern USB port amid the ancient databanks, she decided to hook up the flash drive and see what happened. Whether the information was being read off of the flash drive or inserting it simply 'woke' Zola up... I'm not certain.

And I'm not sure if anything I said made sense *lol* (apologies if it didn't)

 

[BatsDC]

They even state that Zola's dead - and it's not to any of the heroes either, so there's no reason to lie. He was Zola's brainwaves harnessed into all of those different computers. I don't think a USB drive would cut it

 

[TheVision]

^^ Maybe the data on the USB stick could only open on that certain HYDRA computer system? It may have had a certain OS that Zola created to pick up the algorithm coding on the stick.

Ill have to watch the movie again.

 

[Raiden]

Am I the only one who thinks Whedon should add either WM or Falcon as the new permanent member of The Avengers? I hate to say it, but I think the team really needs an African-American superhero on the team, and now that Fury's role might be diminished in the aftermath of TWS we won't have any black superhero in a prominent role. But so far, we haven't heard any confirmation that Rhodey will be in AoU nor whether he will be on the team.

Quite frankly, after TWS I don't think they should break up Cap & Falcon's teamup either, but according to Mackie he's not in this movie to my disappointment. I know Whedon has his hands full with the addition of QS, SW, Ultron, and Vision, not to mention all the returning members of Avengers, but I wish he'd be able to squeeze one more member in.

 

[Primal Slayer]

I dont think that they want to add more Avengers until they can start getting rid of some. WM or Falcon can take over for Tony when he leaves the team.

 

[starkresilient]

I thought we knew War Machine/Don Cheadle is in this movie?

 

[TheVision]

I was never a big fan of War Machine to be honest. Hes just a poor mans Iron Man. Hoping to see more of Falcon and an intro to Black Panther next. They def need diversity but not heroes who are basically copies of others.

 

[Ghostcrow13]

Am I the only one who thinks Whedon should add either WM or Falcon as the new permanent member of The Avengers? I hate to say it, but I think the team really needs an African-American superhero on the team, and now that Fury's role might be diminished in the aftermath of TWS we won't have any black superhero in a prominent role. But so far, we haven't heard any confirmation that Rhodey will be in AoU nor whether he will be on the team.

Quite frankly, after TWS I don't think they should break up Cap & Falcon's teamup either, but according to Mackie he's not in this movie to my disappointment. I know Whedon has his hands full with the addition of QS, SW, Ultron, and Vision, not to mention all the returning members of Avengers, but I wish he'd be able to squeeze one more member in.

I don't think Whedon is going 'I should add or remove people based on race', he added QS and SW because they have cool and interesting powers, both War Machine and Falcon are just poor Iron Mans really.

Adding more Avengers will just get ridiculous, also I'm pretty sure Rhodey will be in it but won't be an Avenger

 

[Dr. Evil]

I thought we knew War Machine/Don Cheadle is in this movie?

Marvel has not confirmed that.

Nor have they confirmed that Thomas Kretschmann is Von Strucker even though he's already in the MCU. They have also not confirmed who else is in Ant Man.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Am I the only one who thinks Whedon should add either WM or Falcon as the new permanent member of The Avengers? I hate to say it, but I think the team really needs an African-American superhero on the team, and now that Fury's role might be diminished in the aftermath of TWS we won't have any black superhero in a prominent role. But so far, we haven't heard any confirmation that Rhodey will be in AoU nor whether he will be on the team.

Quite frankly, after TWS I don't think they should break up Cap & Falcon's teamup either, but according to Mackie he's not in this movie to my disappointment. I know Whedon has his hands full with the addition of QS, SW, Ultron, and Vision, not to mention all the returning members of Avengers, but I wish he'd be able to squeeze one more member in.

They will add a POC in the Avengers if he (or she) fits into the storyline. Joss Whedon and Kevin Feige know this. Is it one of the main issues I have with the MCU? Yes it is. In fact this issue (among a few others) is what makes the MCU not perfect, despite what non MCU people think. I do think it will be resolved if it fits into the story.

 

[starkresilient]

I mean they may not officially confirmed that but lets be real we kinda know he is in the movie. They also officially not said anything about Vision but we also know he is in it and Paul Bettany is playing him

 

[Dr. Evil]

I don't think Whedon is going 'I should add or remove people based on race', he added QS and SW because they have cool and interesting powers, both War Machine and Falcon are just poor Iron Mans really.

Adding more Avengers will just get ridiculous, also I'm pretty sure Rhodey will be in it but won't be an Avenger

They are going to have to add more in Avengers 3.

 

[Ghostcrow13]

They are going to have to add more in Avengers 3.

I presume you are implying they need more people to fight Thanos?

I more mean the permanent roster, yes more people can come in and help fight Thanos, but it would be stupid to have 10 or so Avengers, cos not only then will they have little personal development but there will also be little team development it would just end up being a few interactions between some of the team.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I presume you are implying they need more people to fight Thanos?

I more mean the permanent roster, yes more people can come in and help fight Thanos, but it would be stupid to have 10 or so Avengers, cos not only then will they have little personal development but there will also be little team development it would just end up being a few interactions between some of the team.

Yes. If by the end of the movie the team also includes the Twins and Vision, they will need a lot of allies (Dr. Strange, Ant Man, Guardians of the Galaxy etc.) to defeat Thanos.

 

[Shikamaru]

Am I the only one who thinks Whedon should add either WM or Falcon as the new permanent member of The Avengers? I hate to say it, but I think the team really needs an African-American superhero on the team, and now that Fury's role might be diminished in the aftermath of TWS we won't have any black superhero in a prominent role. But so far, we haven't heard any confirmation that Rhodey will be in AoU nor whether he will be on the team.

Quite frankly, after TWS I don't think they should break up Cap & Falcon's teamup either, but according to Mackie he's not in this movie to my disappointment. I know Whedon has his hands full with the addition of QS, SW, Ultron, and Vision, not to mention all the returning members of Avengers, but I wish he'd be able to squeeze one more member in.

I'd rather see them add Black Panther. I still bet he'll be getting a solo film in Phase 3.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I'd rather see them add Black Panther. I still bet he'll be getting a solo film in Phase 3.

I hope so. I have my doubts about the latest rumor about him from Eh Maybe though.

 

[Raiden]

I presume you are implying they need more people to fight Thanos?

I more mean the permanent roster, yes more people can come in and help fight Thanos, but it would be stupid to have 10 or so Avengers, cos not only then will they have little personal development but there will also be little team development it would just end up being a few interactions between some of the team.

Since QS, SW, and maybe even Vision will presumably be added to the roster after TA2, I don't see how adding either WM and/or Falcon should be a problem. And in Phase 3, we might see Dr. Strange, Ant Man, and perhaps even BP or Ms. Marvel showing up as well, depending on Marvel's Phase 3 plan. I really don't see why they must keep Avengers' roster small, especially since in the comics we know there are so many card-carrying members of Avengers.

 

[Ghostcrow13]

Yes. If by the end of the movie the team also includes the Twins and Vision, they will need a lot of allies (Dr. Strange, Ant Man, Guardians of the Galaxy etc.) to defeat Thanos.

Whilst part of me thinks it will be awesome to see the Avengers, Strange the Guardians maybe Black Panther fight Thanos also part of me thinks it might just be kind of a mess of too many characters with too much going on and not much story.

They could just not have Thanos be so powerful, I do see the Guardians and the Avengers coming together though.

 

[Iceman]

Falcon or War Machine might have fit somewhere in AoU having already been introduced. Black Panther hasn't been covered anywhere before and deserves more focus for his eventual entrance.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Since QS, SW, and maybe even Vision will presumably be added to the roster after TA2, I don't see how adding either WM and/or Falcon should be a problem. And in Phase 3, we might see Dr. Strange, Ant Man, and perhaps even BP or Ms. Marvel showing up as well, depending on Marvel's Phase 3 plan. I really don't see why they must keep Avengers' roster small, especially since in the comics we know there are so many card-carrying members of Avengers.

Half of them are either useless (Jack of Hearts, Two Gun Kid, Silverclaw, Star Fox, Dr. Druid, The Swordsman, Stingray, Demolition Man, Living Lightning, Thunderstrike, Lionheart) or Mutants (Wolverine, Beast, Storm, Rouge, Sunspot, Sunfire, Havok, Cannonball), Fantastic Four, Namor and Spiderman

 

[Dr. Evil]

Whilst part of me thinks it will be awesome to see the Avengers, Strange the Guardians maybe Black Panther fight Thanos also part of me thinks it might just be kind of a mess of too many characters with too much going on and not much story.

They could just not have Thanos be so powerful, I do see the Guardians and the Avengers coming together though.

If Thanos is not all that powerful, then why are there hints of the Infinity Gems? Thanos will get control of all of the gems somehow, which makes him near unstoppable.