Age of Ultron The Avengers 2! The Official News and Speculation Thread - Upgrade section 5 - - - - - - - - - - Part 19

[Kurne]

So do Hemsworth and Evans with Thor and Steve.

 

[Kurne]

twitter pics and some people confirm that BJ aka Tripplet was in Atlanta and not in Norwich for shootings.

Oh wow REALLY?

People confused Britt and Mackie AGAIN?

 

[Raiden]

THis



Speaking of which they should try and get a Sharon/Agent 13 cameo in this. Especially in scenes like this

I think if they are going to use Sharon in a greater role in Cap 3 (which immediately follows AoU), they should have her be in this movie, preferably be the leader of the new recruits and heightens her role in the MCU. If they do that, I can see the possibility of a romance between Steve and Sharon later. Otherwise, Sharon will be a cardboard character with nothing besides her relationship with Cap, and that isn't something I want; Sharon would essentially become Jane Foster 2.0.

 

[Xhexania]

I think if they are going to use Sharon in a greater role in Cap 3 (which immediately follows AoU), they should have her be in this movie, preferably be the leader of the new recruits and heightens her role in the MCU. If they do that, I can see the possibility of a romance between Steve and Sharon later. Otherwise, Sharon will be a cardboard character with nothing besides her relationship with Cap, and that isn't something I want; Sharon would essentially become Jane Foster 2.0.

But unlike Maria Hill, who was seen applying for a job at Stark´s industry, which will probably lead to this thing we see here... Sharon was a CIA agent, so I think in Cap 3, she will help Cap/Falcon team from another side, and therefore establish her relationship with Steve from there. There must be a reason for that last look we had about her in TWS, who knows why they need her character to be associated to an official government intelligence agency… but after all, nothing in TWS was done without a reason, some things were for AoU, others for Cap3.

 

[cherokeesam]

because it makes the core characters less special.
I'm all for introducing new super powered characters, but carefully. build up the universe organically. a bunch of random super powered Avenger recruits is NOT the way to go. This isn't X-Men.

No, it's not X-Men; but it *is* Avengers. And this is *exactly* what The Avengers are all about --- recruiting a superteam of Earth's Mightiest Heroes to defend the planet against Earth's Mightiest Enemies.

And how does adding more superheroes make "the core characters less special?" Since when are The Avengers, X-Men, Justice League or anyone else diluted by the number of members on their roster? Numbers make them *stronger,* not *weaker.* You're arguing against the core raison-d'etre of Marvel Studios' MCU in the first place: if you think more superheroes = watered-down superheroes, then why create a shared universe at all? Go back to the Bad Old Days of a million standalone movie universes populated by a single superhero/superteam.

I agree and really don't think there is anything to worry about. W've seen how these half-baked theories turn out many times before.

"Half-baked?" Half-baked???

These "half-baked" theories were invented by Stan Lee himself over 50 years ago, not by "Crazy Ol' Sam" in a warehouse basement 10 minutes ago. Sorry you don't read or understand comics, but this is what The Avengers are, and this is what The Avengers do. They're a superteam. And every -- EVERY -- iteration of them in ANY media shows them doing exactly what we're seeing in these set pics: setting up a centralized HQ, formalizing a team, recruiting as many superheroes as they can to that team to fight the enemies that SHIELD and the rest of humanity can't.

It is *beyond* ridiculous to see people on a site called "SUPERHERO Hype" trying to argue against Marvel's foremost super-team becoming *exactly* what they're supposed to be. It's like demanding that Flash not run so fast in his upcoming TV show, or Daredevil not be blind, or asking Marvel to make sure that Iron Fist doesn't feature any kung fu, because god forbid a comic-book movie/TV franchise be built around its core concept.

Seriously, folks....? Seriously?

 

[Whiskey Tango]

So, are you saying I shouldn't start an "AVENGERS EXTRAS=INHUMANS" thread? Because I super serial wanted to! t:

I'm merely suggesting that it isn't always wise to peddle your fanfic as truth

 

[Suzanne78]

I'm merely suggesting that it isn't always wise to peddle your fanfic as truth

LOL! Oh jeez, you should SEE some of the batcrazy out there. Some of it is so crazypants that I actually *want* to see it happen!

I agree, I think it's more likely that these are probably former SHIELD agents turned Stark Ind. employees rather than more supers. At this point, I think the MCU will probably name/make major characters out of their super powered beings; they won't be running in the background as part of the scenery.

After watching HER (GAWD SUCH A GREAT MOVIE GO SEE IT!!) I am having massive intelligent A.I. feels. I really cannot wait to see JARVIS' development into Vision.

 

[Suzanne78]

No, it's not X-Men; but it *is* Avengers. And this is *exactly* what The Avengers are all about --- recruiting a superteam of Earth's Mightiest Heroes to defend the planet against Earth's Mightiest Enemies.

And how does adding more superheroes make "the core characters less special?" Since when are The Avengers, X-Men, Justice League or anyone else diluted by the number of members on their roster? Numbers make them *stronger,* not *weaker.* You're arguing against the core raison-d'etre of Marvel Studios' MCU in the first place: if you think more superheroes = watered-down superheroes, then why create a shared universe at all? Go back to the Bad Old Days of a million standalone movie universes populated by a single superhero/superteam.



"Half-baked?" Half-baked???

These "half-baked" theories were invented by Stan Lee himself over 50 years ago, not by "Crazy Ol' Sam" in a warehouse basement 10 minutes ago. Sorry you don't read or understand comics, but this is what The Avengers are, and this is what The Avengers do. They're a superteam. And every -- EVERY -- iteration of them in ANY media shows them doing exactly what we're seeing in these set pics: setting up a centralized HQ, formalizing a team, recruiting as many superheroes as they can to that team to fight the enemies that SHIELD and the rest of humanity can't.

It is *beyond* ridiculous to see people on a site called "SUPERHERO Hype" trying to argue against Marvel's foremost super-team becoming *exactly* what they're supposed to be. It's like demanding that Flash not run so fast in his upcoming TV show, or Daredevil not be blind, or asking Marvel to make sure that Iron Fist doesn't feature any kung fu, because god forbid a comic-book movie/TV franchise be built around its core concept.

Seriously, folks....? Seriously?

I think you're missing the point that others are trying to make. They're not saying anything against team building or the Avengers growing, but that it's more likely that Feige and Co. are reserving introductions of characters with superpowered skillsets either for their own movies or to be featured as major supporting characters in the movies.

No one's disputing that the MCU's main purpose is to grow the universe of superheroes, that much is obvious from the blueprints since IM1 and TIH in 2008. Where we're disagreeing with you is that it's doubtful that the movie will have superpowered heroes simply as background window dressing. They are pretty unique and special in this franchise, and they want to introduce the characters with names, faces, possibly established actors, not random extras.

Given the information we already have, that Stark's privatizing security in the wake of SHIELD's dissolution, I do think the more reasonable explanation here is also the simplest; these are likely former SHIELD agents brought on board by Maria Hill to work at Stark Ind.

I have a feeling that there will be recruiting going on in the movie, possible with Rhodey, almost certainly with Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver and maybe The Vision though. So you'll see team growth that way. And maybe an introduction for Carol Danvers and an expansion into Wakanda.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

LOL! Oh jeez, you should SEE some of the batcrazy out there. Some of it is so crazypants that I actually *want* to see it happen!

I agree, I think it's more likely that these are probably former SHIELD agents turned Stark Ind. employees rather than more supers. At this point, I think the MCU will probably name/make major characters out of their super powered beings; they won't be running in the background as part of the scenery.

Solid. As I previously mentioned, I think we are seeing the classic Avengers set-up being put into motion and these "recruits" are just support staff there for the team's benefit, like security, pilots, maintenance etc. The notion that they're all superpowered is a little nuts. That's not to say that future super-powered characters won't be drawn from their ranks but it's a little early for all the Avengers Academy nonsense.

After watching HER (GAWD SUCH A GREAT MOVIE GO SEE IT!!) I am having massive intelligent A.I. feels. I really cannot wait to see JARVIS' development into Vision.

I have to admit I can't decide whether I'm avoiding this because it looks boring, or because it looks depressing. Probably both. If you're seriously recommending it I will put it on the Netflix queue though. I AM TRUSTING YOU.

Given the information we already have, that Stark's privatizing security in the wake of SHIELD's dissolution, I do think the more reasonable explanation here is also the simplest; these are likely former SHIELD agents brought on board by Maria Hill to work at Stark Ind.

I have a feeling that there will be recruiting going on in the movie, possible with Rhodey, almost certainly with Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver and maybe The Vision though. So you'll see team growth that way. And maybe an introduction for Carol Danvers and an expansion into Wakanda.

+1 for common sense.

 

[Suzanne78]

WT, watch HER! It's at Redbox now too, which is how I got it. If you like Spike Jonze's previous work, you will LOVE the pants off HER.

Also, topic? Scarlett J. proves she can do everything with only her voice. If anyone ever doubted her acting skills, I think HER is quite a showcase.

Also, more topic? I would personally love an actual Avengers Academy, but I want it in its own movie, not as scenery that gets zero development in AoU.

 

[samsnee]

As much as I enjoy the X-men movies, I've always hated how they tend to put an emphasis on powers as an excuse for a cool action scene above characterization save for a few mutants. I hope Avengers doesn't go that route.

 

[Khonshu]

Those uniforms look a lot like the one Pietro was wearing in those first set pics we got of him.

I noticed this, too. Interesting...

 

[ctsketch]

if QS gets a similar uniform to the recruits and Wanda doesn't it just makes her look like a rebel

 

[Suzanne78]

As much as I enjoy the X-men movies, I've always hated how they tend to put an emphasis on powers as an excuse for a cool action scene above characterization save for a few mutants. I hope Avengers doesn't go that route.

I love the first two and liked FC, haven't seen DoFP, but yes, this part bugged me too about the movies. If anything, it also makes it where characters not Wolverine/Magneto/Xavier are marginalized and pushed into the background. So I would rather MCU, if they were to go with an Avengers Academy movie or TV series, to do it differently... And to maybe focus on some heroes that aren't white or male totally. Like, at least AA has Hazmat and several other strong female characters (Veil, Finesse...) and they could introduce Kamala Khan, Kate Bishop, and America Chavez in it as well. Cassie Lang too.

 

[HunBoy]

FALCON Was Seen on Set of AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON Back in April

http://www.dailysuperhero.com/2014/06/exclusive-falcon-was-seen-on-set-of.html

 

[TheVision]

^^ Wasnt he still asking for a part in April? I guess it worked!

 

[Dark Raven]

^^ Wasnt he still asking for a part in April? I guess it worked!

Maybe he was seen on set asking for a part?

 

[TheVision]

Maybe he was included all along. Anyway, thats awesome Joss heard his request.

 

[TheFirstAvenger]

if he really was there, how long do you think his cameo is?

 

[Joeyjojo72]

The guy who plays Tripp is NOT a very good actor. Hopefully he has no involvement in AOU. (And a recasting for next season would be nice.)

 

[Suzanne78]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/16/joss-whedon-superhero-genre_n_5498875.html?utm_hp_ref=tw

A nice little interview with the king himself:

Lately, it seems like superhero movies have become characterized by a sameness best described by Matt Zoller Seitz as "things crashing into other things." In light of the critical mass of such films (including, for example, four movies featuring Iron Man in the span of five years), there has been a discussion as to whether the current state of violent stagnation is the fate of the genre or possibly evidence that it has yet to fully develop. Considering the critical success that was "Marvel's The Avengers" and its upcoming sequel, "Marvel's The Avengers: Age of Ultron," HuffPost Entertainment asked director Joss Whedon how he felt about the matter.

"People have made it very clear that they are fed up with movies where entire cities are destroyed, and then we celebrate," Whedon said, recognizing that of all of those things crashing into other things is an attempt to harness somewhat newly found visual effects.

"Now, I watched 'The Dark Knight' and I thought of that as riffing on the genre," he said. "That was a superhero movie as 'The Godfather.' And I was like, 'But I just still want to see a superhero movie!' We had just gotten the technology to make it awesome, and I wasn't ready to be post-modern about it yet."

The guy who plays Tripp is NOT a very good actor. Hopefully he has no involvement in AOU. (And a recasting for next season would be nice.)

Awww… I really like Tripp and the actor, so I'd be thrilled to have him in AoU. Different strokes for different folks I guess LOL!

 

[TheVision]

^^ The Avengers is the best super hero movie Ive seen so far. Joss isnt trying to do an artistic take on the genre, he's embracing that universe and turning it into intelligent, exciting genre cinema.

 

[Son of Coul]

I actually thought Tripp, when he first showed up at least, outacted over half the cast. Not that he was so amazing, but he was significantly better than most.

 

[Suzanne78]

I don't really think they've given Tripp really good meaty stuff to dig into. Yet. I'm hoping they give him more to do - I think the actor has great chemistry with the entire cast and has injected a lot of personality into what could've been an unmemorable role. For me at least.

I'd love it even more if FitzSimmons or May showed up in an Avengers movie. They are, far and away, my absolute favorite characters on SHIELD.

 

[The Endless]

Who does Paxton play on AoS? He should show up. Bill Paxton is the ****ing man.