Age of Ultron The Avengers 2! The Official News and Speculation Thread - Upgrade section 5 - - - - - - - - - - - Part 20

[Quasimod0]

So footage from this movie was shown at cineEurope. No descriptions of it though

 

[ctsketch]

So they should def have some for SDCC

 

[DarkPhoenix82]

I'm so camping outside of Hall H for the whole weekend

 

[darkslayer101]

So footage from this movie was shown at cineEurope. No descriptions of it though

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

I know Joss said it will basically function as a direct sequel to TA but what if they give everyone a quick rundown of where everyone has been leading up to AoU similar to how they started TIH? It could serve as the intro and also catch up people who may have not seen every movie in phase 2 so far.

Just a thought

 

[Suzanne78]

Part of the intrigue is in "how" they come back together. It's not like the first movie depicted them exchanged phone numbers at the end or how to get to Thor on Asgard. They all went their own ways. Speaking of Thor, we saw in the end-credits he went back to Earth but it's not known whether he reached out to the others.

For me personally if I see them already together on a mission, it'll back track on Fury's comments at the end …. almost glossing over it.

Yeah, I feel you, and that's certainly a "con" for the "they're back together as a team and already going on missions."

I guess, depending on how they've written it, they can do the whole reassembling the team without glossing over Fury's comments. B/c basically, by saying that they'll assemble again when the world needs them to, they're essentially the only non-military world security team in existence now that SHIELD's no more. Jumping right into the fray as a team, so to speak, heads off any redundant criticisms that may pop up and allows Joss to get down and dirty with the team interactions, for better or worse.

I can understand how others might feel cheated that you won't see the process play out though. I think we're wanting to see aspects of team building onscreen in AoU.

 

[TheVision]

The SHIELD/HYDRA situation makes Furys "we'll need them to" comment irrelevant. There is no organization for him to get them back together. Its now Tony and Cap making those calls. So that considered Tony couldve already got everyone back right after TWS occurred and started doing his own thing.

I dont believe in a need to show a reason why theyre back together or some opening credits montage to show whats happened leading up to AOU. You can easily just jump into the current story with everyone rolling along. The audience is intelligent enough. You start off where these characters are in their current lives (like Godfather II).

 

[Doctor Jones]

I know Joss said it will basically function as a direct sequel to TA but what if they give everyone a quick rundown of where everyone has been leading up to AoU similar to how they started TIH? It could serve as the intro and also catch up people who may have not seen every movie in phase 2 so far.

Just a thought

I don't think that's necessary. If people really want to know, they either had an opportunity to see them at the theater and if not, pay a couple bucks to see it on video. Otherwise, this film should be dealing with itself on its own terms and not be caught up in whether or not people saw the other films. The beauty of the first film is that you didn't need to even see the others, as preferable as that would have been, it functioned on its own. Whedon wrote it in such a way where you knew exactly who these people were and where you understand them and their motives and reasoning behind everything in this narrative. It's great screenwriting and should be applied to all comic book and franchise films.

 

[LEOZZTT]

I'm so camping outside of Hall H for the whole weekend

Same here. Sleeping bags ready.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

The SHIELD/HYDRA situation makes Furys "we'll need them to" comment irrelevant. There is no organization for him to get them back together. Its now Tony and Cap making those calls. So that considered Tony couldve already got everyone back right after TWS occurred and started doing his own thing.

I dont believe in a need to show a reason why theyre back together or some opening credits montage to show whats happened leading up to AOU. You can easily just jump into the current story with everyone rolling along. The audience is intelligent enough. You start off where these characters are in their current lives (like Godfather II).

I took Fury's line to mean that humanity would need the Avengers and they would return. It's not irrelevant.

 

[TheVision]

I took Fury's line to mean that humanity would need the Avengers and they would return. It's not irrelevant.

True, but he also meant we as in SHIELD would need them to. Theyve probably already been back together for awhile in AOU due to the unforseen events in TWS. The point being there doesnt have to be a call to assemble for it to work. They can already be assembled then go on a mission.

 

[Zarex]

Who knows, maybe. I thought the people in those places would also drop into the forum that combines the whole thing every now and then.

The lack of controversy on A:AOU also cuts down on the traffic quite a bit. There's not a lot to be concerned with on a follow-up to a $1.5 billion film featuring the original director and writer, all of the original cast along with returning favorites from other MCU films, an A-Level villain, Cap's entire Kooky Quartet and the guy who stood next to the Avengers logo for many of the team's most popular comic book stories.

 

[sabrecmc]

At the end of TWS, BW talked about how they are the best defense and "You know where to find me" which I assumed meant Avengers tower...since SHIELD is gone... also Maria Hill is working for Stark and Banner was hanging out with Tony at the end of IM3 and they rode off together after Avengers. Cap and BW are bros as well as BW and Hawkeye.

The only person that needs to have explanation for rejoining is Thor...and he is already on Earth

I assumed that was what BW meant, too. To get a hearing like that together, that had to be awhile after the events with the helicarriers, so I figured she'd moved into Avengers Tower at that point. Steve's apartment was all shot up and clearly completely compromised, so it would make sense for him. Bruce is there, we assume. Hawkeye was in Afghanistan or something, right? It was his parking space those guys were arguing about in TWS? I guess that is totally implied, but that was my read. Anyway, he was on a mission somewhere...else.

Eh, as long as I get Cap saying "Avengers, Assemble!" then I'm good.

 

[The Endless]

I don't think that's necessary. If people really want to know, they either had an opportunity to see them at the theater and if not, pay a couple bucks to see it on video. Otherwise, this film should be dealing with itself on its own terms and not be caught up in whether or not people saw the other films. The beauty of the first film is that you didn't need to even see the others, as preferable as that would have been, it functioned on its own. Whedon wrote it in such a way where you knew exactly who these people were and where you understand them and their motives and reasoning behind everything in this narrative. It's great screenwriting and should be applied to all comic book and franchise films.

Well said. Whedon is even quoted as saying that he envisions AoU like Godfather II, in that a few things have happened in between the first and second films, but all you need to know is actually in the second film itself.

 

[TheVision]

Does anyone know where Tony was telling Bruce his story in IM3? I assume it was Avengers Tower since Tony had left his old place at the end.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Hahahahahahahaha .....

 

[Rock Sexton]

The SHIELD/HYDRA situation makes Furys "we'll need them to" comment irrelevant. There is no organization for him to get them back together. Its now Tony and Cap making those calls. So that considered Tony couldve already got everyone back right after TWS occurred and started doing his own thing.

Ya, and it won't take up that much time to see them reconnect. I personally hate when movies assume something that didn't take place on screen, especially with how the MCU tends to at times retcon things via the prequel comics. It's lazy.

 

[TeeKay]

So footage from this movie was shown at cineEurope. No descriptions of it though

From CBM..

"Disney's presentation then turned to Marvel Studios with president of production Kevin Feige in attendence and "armed with the first footage from Avengers: Age of Ultron." Sadly, The Hollywood Reporter didn't offer a description of footage shown, but did reiterate that writer/director Joss Whedon is "half way through a 100-day shoot" for the Marvel sequel. Despite reportedly skipping Age of Ultron set visits last week possibly to avoid inevitable Edgar Wright questions, "Feige also played sequences and an interview montage from Ant-Man, including contributions from Peyton Reed."

 

[TheFirstAvenger]

We need to track this reporter down!

 

[RockSP]

I took Fury's line to mean that humanity would need the Avengers and they would return. It's not irrelevant.

Yep.

 

[TheVision]

I'm feeling....

 

[MbJ]

I'm in favor of starting with the team reassembled. If we're going off Fury saying that the team would return when a crisis great enough necessitated it, surely SHIELD being annihilated and HYDRA rising up to take over the world qualifies.

What I'm more interested in is if they'll mention why Steve put his search for Bucky on hold. If Falcon just gets a cameo rather than a supporting role, maybe it's so that he can continue the search while Steve is off with the Avengers?

 

[TheVision]

^^ I think Joss will drop bits of info that clues us into how/why theyve got to where they are, he just wont spend any more time than whats needed.

 

[DarkPhoenix82]

The movie also ended with Natasha heading off into nowhere... So yeah, as stated, I'm pretty sure we'll see at least a short introduction of Tony calling the gang together (or at least back if they've already been there before Cap2) in the beginning. All hints and set information so far speaks for it.

 

[Rock Sexton]

I'm in favor of starting with the team reassembled. If we're going off Fury saying that the team would return when a crisis great enough necessitated it, surely SHIELD being annihilated and HYDRA rising up to take over the world qualifies.

You're assuming Hydra is rising up all over the world and taking it over. That's not the indication given by what we saw transpire in CA:TWS. They've been outed. Heck, even Senator Stern got arrested by the FBI. What's left of Hydra is more or less mop up duty. The stuff with the Twins I'm sure is being kept hush hush until they're ready to release them on the Avengers.

Having said that, it would seem on the surface that Hydra is not a reason to already have been assembled.

^^ I think Joss will drop bits of info that clues us into how/why theyve got to where they are, he just wont spend any more time than whats needed.

It doesn't need to be some huge exposition. I just don't want anymore "well here I am" moments like with Thor in the Avengers. Take a couple of minutes to reconnect them, then its time to start kicking some butt.