The Avengers The Avengers Box-Office Prediction Thread - Part 6

[rashad]

Hindsight is 20/20.

 

[Mighty Thor]

Comedy gold. Mainly coming from the haters.

 

[Paladin-Hoss]

Hindsight is 20/20.

True enough. But that's why i'm only quoting those who made crazy predictions.

I mean c'mon now...you got a movie that combined characters from several different succesfull franchises...and you think it's only going to make 300 millions ?

That's not hindsight is 20/20...that just being dumb.


Imagine if there's a movie that puts John Mc Clane, Rambo and Robocop together. If you think it'd be a gigantic flop, well then...

 

[Iceman]

If DC released successful Wonder Woman, Flash & Green Lantern films and they used Bale Bats & Cavill Supes (assuming TMOS is a success) it would be equally dumb to think that wouldn't do huge business.

 

[RamseyBoy]

Just a Batman and Superman team up would be huge I'd imagine.

 

[Paladin-Hoss]

If DC released successful Wonder Woman, Flash & Green Lantern films and they used Bale Bats & Cavill Supes (assuming TMOS is a success) it would be equally dumb to think that wouldn't do huge business.

Of course it would do huge bussiness.Hell, like the other poster said, just Batman and Superman, even if it's NOT with Bale and Cavill will be huge.

 

[Chronoless]

Of course it would do huge bussiness.Hell, like the other poster said, just Batman and Superman, even if it's NOT with Bale and Cavill will be huge.

Big opener "yes"! big money well that another story, it comes down to how well receive it is. JLA will be the same very big opener, if the movie is good it will make alot of money, if the movie is crap, 90% drop in 1 week. So you can't really tell. I was hoping Avenger would only make $800, but its the fact that it was well receive by everyone that it is where it is now. JLA or Batman vs Superman, I'm sticking to $800, untill I see how critic and fans feel about it.

Because I know damn well a JLA,Avenger, Superman vs Batman with a RT rateing of 25% (or below 50%) isn't breaking the $800 mill mark. I don't care how fan praise it, its not.

 

[Vartha]

do not go any futher in comparing DC to Marvel. We DO have a very strict rule about it.

To me, I don't really go by what ANY "critic" has to say about any film. I go to the fans first.

 

[Juicy J]

Hindsight is 20/20.

True, but as it was already pointed out, there were a decent amount of people who doubted this thing as a heavy-weight from the beginning, which was foolish from the start. I mean regardless of how you feel about all the individual MS movies, they have all been more or less critical and financial successe which goes to show that they know how to properly handle their franchises. So common sense would dictate that they'd make the Avengers something noteworthy and special since it's what they've been leading up to for five years.
Top that off with a slick marketing campaign (which we all knew Disney was going to do) and this thing was, no doubt, a guaranteed hit from the start. It wasn't a matter of 'if' it made big money, but exactly how much. Like I said, I purposely lowballed and guessed $800 million just to be conservative but boy am I glad I was wrong.

 

[Chronoless]

do not go any futher in comparing DC to Marvel. We DO have a very strict rule about it.

To me, I don't really go by what ANY "critic" has to say about any film. I go to the fans first.

Not comparing DC to Marvel.

Thats why I said

Because I know damn well a JLA,Avenger, Superman vs Batman with a RT rateing of 25% (or below 50%) isn't breaking the $800 mill mark.

Just saying name by itself doesn't auto 1.5+ billion. Just having fans like isn't going to get you there too. because if thats true we all can expect TASM to hit 1+ bill and 600+ mil in US/Canada, because so far fan have liked it, but some critics haven't so I doubt it will. DK and Avengers made it because of a combination of both Fan and Critics. Not saying fans will not like it, but in the end to make the big doe you need both. a lot of people go by fan sure, but a lot also go by critics.

 

[Mysteryman]

It's OFFICIAL!

Marvel's The Avengers as of 06-26-12 is now currently at $600,377,080.

I'm now predicting ~ $625 million before it's run has ended.

Congratulations to Marvel Studios and all the fans here as well as CBM fans EVERYWHERE !

 

[Brian Braddock]

Hehe here are some of the gems quoted from that thread

Man, it was hlarious reading some of those predictions.

I think Nostradamus' job is safe.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Congratulations to Marvel Studios and all the fans here as well as CBM fans EVERYWHERE !

Undoubtedly - but I'm wondering why the focus on U.S. domestic though? This isnt just aimed at you, I'm just a bit non-plussed that the worldwide figure doesnt seem to get as much recognition on here?

Is it really all about domestic?

 

[flickchick85]

Undoubtedly - but I'm wondering why the focus on U.S. domestic though? This isnt just aimed at you, I'm just a bit non-plussed that the worldwide figure doesnt seem to get as much recognition on here?

Is it really all about domestic?

It's my understanding that the studio gets a much smaller chunk of the overseas gross, so for them, domestic is where it's at.

It's kinda like the 18-34 crowd vs. the other demographics when it comes to advertising. CBS may be the network with the most viewers, but the advertisers don't care as much because they aren't the prized money-making demographic. They do care, just not nearly as much.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Ah right; thanks for explaining.

 

[Tony Stark]

There's some people who just under predicted, and it was nothing against Avengers, and that's fine. No one can predict the future otherwise they'd be multiple lottery winners.

There were people who were trolling on how Avengers was going to do. Not so much here but there were a ton on the BOT forums. I remember one guy saying that Avengers was only going to make 275M total domestic.

 

[Paladin-Hoss]

^^ yeah, like that one guy who said that Avengers was only going to make 300M total...or most likely less hehe

And you guys remember how when The Avengers was just released, and there were Nolanites on the IMDB forums and Nolanfan forum who said that the reason that Avengers made so much money on opening weekend, was because of the TDKR trailer?

 

[Paladin-Hoss]

Man, it was hlarious reading some of those predictions.

I think Nostradamus' job is safe.

LOL!

 

[mist@doom]

It's my understanding that the studio gets a much smaller chunk of the overseas gross, so for them, domestic is where it's at.

Well....imagine how big the overseas countries are, (or some of them)
even 25% percent of it (800+ million) is still 200+ million...and it's not done yet....even Japan,who'm appears to be more into spiderman,might deliver some more $!

 

[Danalys]

Undoubtedly - but I'm wondering why the focus on U.S. domestic though? This isnt just aimed at you, I'm just a bit non-plussed that the worldwide figure doesnt seem to get as much recognition on here?

Is it really all about domestic?

the international info isn't reported anywhere near as fast and the only question about the international is if it can take HP8's place and we wont find that out for a few months. worldwide avengers is just further cementing it's place. 1.5 billion worldwide will be worth noting but again will take weeks.

 

[Xeno]

To be fair...how many of us expected the movie to be THIS succesful?

I did, and so did a lot of other people. In fact, I predicted $1.1 billion worldwide in the 6th post of the first part of this thread, to the amusement and scorn of the Debbie Downers around these parts. The number of wet blankets infesting this thread was unbelievable. It wasn't their persistence that was so annoying, it was the fact that they were dead wrong and yet kept spewing the same nonsense over and over for hundreds of posts. As soon as the numbers from the international markets started coming in, a few of the naysayers bravely kept trolling along until it became absolutely impossible to keep predicting that The Avengers would bomb. Once Dark Shadows let them down and Battleship sank they took off for other sections of SHH, never to be seen on the Avengers forum again.

Avengers was a commercial and critical success so this Michael bay thing that people like to throw around doesn't stick. 93 score on rt including 38 out of 42 top critics. A+ cinemagrade score and 96 percent audience rating. Transformers doesn't come close to any of those scores.

The Transformers comparison is the last refuge of the scoundrel. The second one of those movies sits at 20% on RT; the highest any of them got is 57%. Seriously comparing any of them to The Avengers is deliberately insulting and provocative.

 

[Xeno]

True enough. But that's why i'm only quoting those who made crazy predictions.

I mean c'mon now...you got a movie that combined characters from several different succesfull franchises...and you think it's only going to make 300 millions ?

That's not hindsight is 20/20...that just being dumb.


Imagine if there's a movie that puts John Mc Clane, Rambo and Robocop together. If you think it'd be a gigantic flop, well then...

Isn't that the basis of Expendables 2? That trailer was the only one to get cheers and applause when it played ahead of The Avengers when I saw it, BTW. (You could have heard a pin drop during the ASM and TDKR trailers, and the place was packed.) Expendables looks dumb as hell but also like a lot of fun. I may go see it, just for old school kicks.

 

[thalidomide]

I'm happy for Marvel right now, they deserved every penny because they made the most accurate comic book movie all of us are waiting for.

 

[Jon Hex]

They can hate all they want, it wont change anything.

This is the era of the Avengers.

 

[marcvader]

Isn't that the basis of Expendables 2? That trailer was the only one to get cheers and applause when it played ahead of The Avengers when I saw it, BTW. (You could have heard a pin drop during the ASM and TDKR trailers, and the place was packed.) Expendables looks dumb as hell but also like a lot of fun. I may go see it, just for old school kicks.

The first one was tons of fun.