Action-Adventure The 'Back To The Future' Appreciation Thread - Part 2

[Blitzkrieg]

I love, love the 1955 part of BTTF II.

On the other hand I don't like the 2015 part (well I like some of it but not overall).

The way two timelines come together neatly and how Marty from original timeline has to avoid seeing his first future travelling version in the1955 timeline is brilliantly done. The ending is great too. In fact it's one of my favorite endings to any movie ever!

 

[DarkKnight88]

Agreed that revisiting the first movie is maybe the best part of II.

Fun fact, the opening of Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers was inspired by the revisiting of the first movie by seeing the same event from a different viewpoint.

 

[Zorro]

I love the 2015 and Biff's 1985 stuff and they were my favorite parts but now, I overall have to go with the revisit!

Plus I also really enjoy the cliffhanger ending with the trailer for Part III attached. From the car/hover board chase to the credits is a damn thrill

 

[The Caped Knight]

Surprise special guest

 

[Doctor Jones]

2 is great. Almost as good as the first. It's a great escalation of the story. If the first is about time travel, the second is about what happens when you **** with time travel and deal with the consequences. Great way to build stakes.

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

BTTF Playmobil series.
I wish I was 6+ again

 

[Immortalfire]

In BTTF II, the courthouse mall logo is a lightning bolt striking a clock.

Also, when Doc and Marty leave 2015, you can see Nov 12, 1955 is on the last time departed readout.

 

[STARMAN]

No matter how many times I watch the famous Marty springing back to life as Earth Angel plays, it's always magical. It holds that special charm every single time.

 

[Immortalfire]

For real, he’s literally being erased from existence, and then at the last minute the kiss happens he jumps back up as the future is restored.

 

[Broseph44]

Happy 35th anniversary!

 

[Immortalfire]

Time for another marathon.

 

[DKDetective]

BTTF Playmobil series.
I wish I was 6+ again

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Hate to be a stickler, but that is the wrong guitar. Marty plays an ES-345 with Bigsby tailpiece at the Enchantment Under the Sea dance. This appears to be some sort of 80s Fender Stratocaster copy. Marty does play a Strat-style guitar in 1985, but it is all black and has a different headstock...

 

[Gold Samurai]

Doc's regular expression scares me

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Getting back into recording my podcast in the next week or two and a retrospective on the BTTF Trilogy is first on deck.

Now... I adore the first film and have great appreciation for the sequels.

And the film making is so absolutely crackerjack... That said are there any criticisms, or observations about the film, not tearing it apart but deconstructing the series a bit, that anyone wants to share?

I myself marvel at how there are aspects that both on paper and even in execution would get other films strung up or called out as deep flaws and yet in this case don't sink the movie or in fact those flaws don't register with fans.

The movies are an almost impossible to recreate alchemy with the vision of the director and the charisma of the cast, especially the leads, elevating everything to the classic status these movies have obtained.

So any interesting thoughts folk would like to share?

 

[Detective Conan]

I just saw the trilogy for the very first time this past Wednesday. I must say the first movie while it holds up well, I’m not wowed by it as many probably were when they first saw this film in ‘85. It’s good and clever...but I kind of wonder if I would’ve liked it much more had I not seen so many parodies of it in pop culture, and other time travel movies before this one. Though obviously BTTF is basically the father of modern time travel movies, I have to wonder what it must have felt like experiencing this movie when it was fresh and new. I’d imagine it must have been mind blowing if you’re seeing this for the first time as a kid. Sort of like Star Wars. My favorite character is the Doc. He’s a cooky mad scientist archetype personified and I think Christopher Lloyd fits the character like a glove. Micheal J. Fox was also really good as Marty McFly and thank god they replaced the original actor for Marty with him, because the wrong actor in this role could’ve easily ruined the movie. Crispin Glover and Lea Thompson are also quite good as Marty’s parents(even though they’re around the same age as Micheal J. Fox in real life!). The movie is fun, imaginative, and tightly written but I’m not in awe of it like many are. This is an all-time classic that has influenced many things from movies, tv shows, games and thus is worthy of my utmost respect.

7/10.


The second movie I know isn’t well liked, and it hasn’t aged well for obvious reasons but I do kind of like it, it’s even more cartoony and campy than the first movie, and I seriously lol’d so hard when they traveled to the future in 2015, and looks virtually nothing like the real life 2015.

This suffices. Apologies if this has been posted before.

I like that they show the events from the first movie through a different angle.

6.5/10


The third movie was kind of a slog since I don’t generally care for Westerns much. I know this is a comedy series and all but why the hell did they cast Micheal J. Fox and Lea Thompson as Marty’s great grandparents? I was fine with them getting Micheal J. Fox to play Marty’s kid and all but this was a stretch too far for me. Even If you put aside the bad Irish accents...it’s just too distracting for me and took me out of the movie every time they were on screen, and I just don’t give a crap about Doc’s romance movie with Clara.

5.5/10.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I just saw the trilogy for the very first time this past Wednesday. I must say the first movie while it holds up well, I’m not wowed by it as many probably were when they first saw this film in ‘85. It’s good and clever...but I kind of wonder if I would’ve liked it much more had I not seen so many parodies of it in pop culture, and other time travel movies before this one. Though obviously BTTF is basically the father of modern time travel movies, I have to wonder what it must have felt like experiencing this movie when it was fresh and new. I’d imagine it must have been mind blowing if you’re seeing this for the first time as a kid. Sort of like Star Wars. My favorite character is the Doc. He’s a cooky mad scientist archetype personified and I think Christopher Lloyd fits the character like a glove. Micheal J. Fox was also really good as Marty McFly and thank god they replaced the original actor for Marty with him, because the wrong actor in this role could’ve easily ruined the movie. Crispin Glover and Lea Thompson are also quite good as Marty’s parents(even though they’re around the same age as Micheal J. Fox in real life!). The movie is fun, imaginative, and tightly written but I’m not in awe of it like many are. This is an all-time classic that has influenced many things from movies, tv shows, games and thus is worthy of my utmost respect.

7/10.


The second movie I know isn’t well liked, and it hasn’t aged well for obvious reasons but I do kind of like it, it’s even more cartoony and campy than the first movie, and I seriously lol’d so hard when they traveled to the future in 2015, and looks virtually nothing like the real life 2015.

This suffices. Apologies if this has been posted before.

I like that they show the events from the first movie through a different angle.

6.5/10


The third movie was kind of a slog since I don’t generally care for Westerns much. I know this is a comedy series and all but why the hell did they cast Micheal J. Fox and Lea Thompson as Marty’s great grandparents? I was fine with them getting Micheal J. Fox to play Marty’s kid and all but this was a stretch too far for me. Even If you put aside the bad Irish accents...it’s just too distracting for me and took me out of the movie every time they were on screen, and I just don’t give a crap about Doc’s romance movie with Clara.

5.5/10.

Thanks.

This is interesting because you come to it with fresh eyes shorn of any nostalgia goggles.

I probably rate the sequels a smidge higher than you while admitting you have a point about some of the same issues I have. (Though I'm a sucker for westerns and the way the 1885 stuff plays as both a celebration of Hollywood westerns while also being fairly grounded and truthful about some of the realities of 1885 life at the beginning of the end of westward expansion is a neat trick I think.)

Having seen all three were there any lingering questions or musing you had?

 

[Detective Conan]

Thanks.

This is interesting because you come to it with fresh eyes shorn of any nostalgia goggles.

I probably rate the sequels a smidge higher than you while admitting you have a point about some of the same issues I have. (Though I'm a sucker for westerns and the way the 1885 stuff plays as both a celebration of Hollywood westerns while also being fairly grounded and truthful about some of the realities of 1885 life at the beginning of the end of westward expansion is a neat trick I think.)

Having seen all three were there any lingering questions or musing you had?

I’m quite curious why in BTTF2 2015 Biff didn’t just kill George McFly in the past in order to prevent any potential threat to his plan from working? After all, he did warn his past 1955 self about Marty and Doc’s threat and we know that the Trump-like alternate 1985 Biff eventually kills George McFly in his timeline. Why not go a step further and prevent Marty from being even born so he wouldn’t even be able to exist to stop him? Why leave it to your past self to do the dirty work for you? We know Marty still exists in the dark alternate 1985 timeline since Biff seems to know Marty and mentions he’s supposed to be overseas somewhere which indicates to me this version of Biff left George alive long enough to conceive Marty before he ultimately killed him...but why doesn’t he consider preventing the existence of his archenemy one of his plans?

Because then there wouldn’t be a movie!

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I’m quite curious why in BTTF2 2015 Biff didn’t just kill George McFly in the past in order to prevent any potential threat to his plan from working? After all, he did warn his past 1955 self about Marty and Doc’s threat and we know that the Trump-like alternate 1985 Biff eventually kills George McFly in his timeline. Why not go a step further and prevent Marty from being even born so he wouldn’t even be able to exist to stop him? Why leave it to your past self to do the dirty work for you? We know Marty still exists in the dark alternate 1985 timeline since Biff seems to know Marty and mentions he’s supposed to be overseas somewhere which indicates to me this version of Biff left George alive long enough to conceive Marty before he ultimately killed him...but why doesn’t he consider preventing the existence of his archenemy one of his plans?

Because then there wouldn’t be a movie!

You ain't wrong.

I think it's interesting that fans, like myself, are HAPPY to hand wave away a lot because of the acceptance of plot mechanics etc.

A testament to the overall charm and running on all cylinders entertainment quotient of these movies.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Let’s just remember that Biff isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed. Even Old Biff probably didn’t think too deep in his plan beyond getting himself rich young.

 

[Detective Conan]

Let’s just remember that Biff isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed. Even Old Biff probably didn’t think too deep in his plan beyond getting himself rich young.

...but 2015 Biff was smart enough to anticipate Marty and Doc’s potential interference, and warn his 1955 self about them. He ain’t too bright, sure, but he is ruthless and I don’t know if he would leave a stone unturned like that. The Trump-like version from the dark 1985 timeline eventually kills George anyway. Had he traveled to 1955 and killed him earlier before George could conceive Marty, then in theory Marty would be erased from existence therefore he wouldn’t even be there to stop Biff from realizing his plans. That’s the definition of killing two birds with one stone.

This isn’t a plot hole per se’ and it’s not really a major issue for me since I understand you need Marty alive throughout the entirety of the film, and you don’t want to make Biff too smart, or else you have no movie but it’s just a thing that occurred to me.

 

[Dave McFly]

Throwback to when I was in the L.A, area back in 2010 I was with my brother and my best childhood friend went to Pasadena. while we were there we visited the Gamble House (AKA Brown Manor) the McFly house, and the BK that was built where Brown Manor used to stand on before being burnt down in the film's past.

our only regret we did not have the time to go the Puente Hills Mall (aka Twin Pines Mall) *sigh*

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Nice.

 

[Dave McFly]

FUN FACT: the Gamble House is owned by the city and has been turned into a museum (the garage/lab is a gift shop). sadly it was closed but we were still able to wander the grounds and get pics of it, here is a shot of the garage I always loved the winding curved brick driveway.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I've wanted to ask fans this... Did Marty by going back also change the history of Doc Brown?

We see a newpaper clipping that declare's Doc's familial home gets burned down in 1962.

Howevr in the scene where Doc and Marty do a scale model simulation of the operation to harness the lightning bolt that strikes the clock tower the model car gets set on fire and then rolls into some corner where there were paint cans and other assorted flammable items.

Now, am I off in thinking this was supposed to indicate that Doc was made more aware of how much clutter and junk he had laying around as potential fire hazards, and thus this changed the fate of his home?