BvS The Batsuit Thread - Part 14

[Reel-Man]

Great artwork BatFan! Any chance you can do one where the lenses are same shape as his eye opening? Thin long lenses and maybe make them not as bright. See if you can put them as a separate layer with opacity about 25-50%.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

It's pretty canon that criminals tend not to see much of Batman, hence the 'creature' assertions being made. If you saw disembodied eyes floating around as a criminal your imagination would probably run away with you too.

Yeah. The dots of terror

 

[BatFan1979]

nailed it. To me, this shows exactly what I mean by the ability of the eyes to emote even though they are white. In my opinion, the flexible white lens actually just amplifies the emotion you can achieve with eyes. If the cowl moves with the eye/facial muscles, there really is no reason that this look won't do everything we need it to do from both a visual, psychological, and emotional standpoint.

Thanks, BA! Yeah, I was just trying to show how it could take on some emoting ability with the white eyes. Again, the eyes wouldn't have to glow all the time - maybe just at key points to surprise his prey. Maybe like this...have mercy on my attempt at creative writing

A possible scene highlighting the use of the "Batman glowing eyes for intimidation" concept:

Spoiler

1:35 AM. The loathsome streets of Gotham. You're a common criminal running from the GCPD. You decide to duck into a darkened alley for cover. Hiding in the shadows as the cruises race by, lights and sirens blazing, you smirk. You think you're in the clear as you attempt to catch your breathe. Suddenly, a feeling of eerie discomfort overwhelms you, as if you're being watched. You whirl around to find yourself staring up at a pair of menacingly disembodied, glowing white eyes. You cry out as you fall back onto the cold, wet pavement. Feebly clawing your way out of the shadows, your eyes remain locked in a terrifyingly, hypnotic stare with what can only be described as a towering demon!

Finally reaching the cool, blue-green glow of a humming street lamp, you run your back up against the pole, sitting half paralyzed with fear as the otherworldly eyes continue to advance. The "monster" reaches the edge of your luminescent sanctuary and you cringe, the thought of becoming a living feast running through your mind. As you brace yourself for the impending agony, you hear a whoosh of something being thrown; the street light above shatters and goes out, leaving you engulfed in complete darkness. As the eyes stop within inches of yours, they narrow slightly as if looking deep into your soul - judging it. You hear a disturbingly deep, icy voice calmly command you to turn yourself in or it will hunt you down. The white glowing eyes then fade to nothing, leaving you with a cold, tingling spine and warm, wet pants.

At that moment, the all-too-familiar dance of red and blue illuminates the surrounding street and buildings in front of you, accompanied by several pairs of screeching tires. You don't even notice the uniformed officers quickly approaching you from behind, as your gaze remains locked with the now lit emptiness in front of you. As you're yanked to your feet and handcuffed, the shock grips your senses as you realize that just seconds before you shared that darkened void with the devil himself. The forceful clutches of your "saviors" are a comforting alternative to what could have been.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

^ I always liked the idea of criminals preferring to get caught than face the wrath of the Batman.

 

[BatFan1979]

^yeah- do you blame em? lol

 

[Bathead]

Thank you. I've always hated the idea that just because something hasn't been done before in a serious way, it's inherently impossible.
I think the glowing eyes give him a spectre quality. The inhumanity of a robot combined with the primality of a creature, and the intellect of a man.

If Batman is in good lighting designed to show off his face, lights should be dim or non-existent. Lenses could pop on or off (TDK style) or just be integrated into the mask.

I don't like the idea of white contacts. It's a bit too cartooney for me

Agreed. You can include that similarly idiotic claim that "What works in the comics won't work in the movies." with that.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

^ I think there's SOME truth to that, after all, films are mostly stand-alone with a few sequels, while comics are serialized. That being said, I think that the "comics are comics, movies are movies" mentality has been an excuse for writers/directors to not ATTEMPT to recreate the characters and situations from the pages.

I'd rather see a lot of failures that result from following the source material too closely (which I think is somewhat possible), than watching footage that feels ashamed of its roots.

 

[Mindreaper21]

Hmm... you do know he has the white lenses in that clip, right? That's a great example of Batman being a psychological force - and the idea of speakers manipulating his voice and throwing it around is a great one (although I don't think he's going to be lugging his PA to every show down), but he backs up his theatrics in the above clip with obscured eye lenses. To me, it's the final touch that really sells what he's doing.

I do realize he has lenses as he does in pretty much everything animated, but you have missed the entire point. It's his presence. Which is why I posted the Dracula video. He is creepy as hell and doesn't need a mask or lenses. He seems like a creature by his presence and the way he moves. The way he stares into the soul of his victims is hypnotic. Batman can be the same without the lenses. I'd be more terrified knowing that someone is staring at me rather than looking at lenses and wondering if he can see at all. The closest thing to glowing lenses we ever had was in Batman Begins. It was awesome, don't get me wrong, but that Bat-Demon scene was far more terrifying.

 

[TheBat812]

Agreed. You can include that similarly idiotic claim that "What works in the comics won't always work in the movies." with that.

Now it's an accurate statement.

 

[Bathead]

Yes, perhaps "not always" is slightly more accurate, but, as Coco said. more often than not, it's an excuse for those who seem to be a little embarrassed about the source material to the point of changing fundamental aspects of a character, just to satisfy some supposedly "adult" sensibility because comics and super-heroes are still to this day seen as a wholly juvenile endeavor.

 

[John-An]

I've said this before but semi-transparent lenses are the way to go. From far they look white but as you get closer you can see his eyes. Imagine looking at the creature from far and then when you get closer you notice it's eyes staring right back at you. Eerie!

Priceless!!! t: I wouldn't mind if they had the same texture (clothing) as the spidey's lenses but all white.

Which become ultrabright when Batman is drowned in shadow.

Wow

 

[Fallen Angel]

Original:

Manip:

No emotion lost, and the right eye even has more detail drawn to it by the dim lense lights.

Which become ultrabright when Batman is drowned in shadow.

damn that look cool.

 

[John-An]

^ That sounds good.

from which is this? I really would like to see smth like this.. Interesting...

 

[Astro13Zombie]

from which is this? I really would like to see smth like this

Batman:Gotham Knight

Fun movie

 

[Wise]

I'm starting to come around to the lenses idea.

I liked them on Nightowl in Watchmen and they worked for Daredevil.

Also Dredd showed how badass a character can be portrayed with no eyes.

 

[John-An]

Batman:Gotham Knight

Fun movie

Thanks!!!

 

[BatFan1979]

I'm starting to come around to the lenses idea.

I liked them on Nightowl in Watchmen and they worked for Daredevil.

Also Dredd showed how badass a character can be portrayed with no eyes.

Come on in, the water's warmt:

 

[DeGenerate10]

Original:
Which become ultrabright when Batman is drowned in shadow.

That would be terrifying to see in person.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Come on in, the water's warmt:

i imagined this in Herbert's voice from Family Guy...

 

[BatFan1979]

^HA! Love that guy! Well...not really, but...damn! You know what I mean!

 

[BatScot]

The whole idea of Batman being a creature of the night is dumb. Anyone who takes a decent look at him can see that he is simply a man in a costume. Having glowing lenses won´t make him look less human. It will just make him look like a man in a costume with glowing lenses. Unless in that universe people are all ******ed.

Not only it looks cooler to see his eyes, but it is also better for stealth purposes.

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[Lencho01]

I'd like to see white eyes, but I don't want them glowing like Iron Man or something.

 

[John-An]

^^^ Exactly... I would want that or a more clothing thing...

 

[John-An]

Snyder on the pic with superman and batman!!!

You know, Superman and Batman in the movies have never existed in the same frame together. So it’s an interesting historical thing. We were just testing the suits, right? The new Batsuit and the Superman suit. It wasn’t even with the actors, right? It was just to see ‘em. I was standing there, they were standing next to each other. And I was like, “Guys, someone take a picture! This has never happened before.” We slightly dork out. Like, “Are you kidding me?!”

Can't wait to see Supes/Bats image!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[BattleAngel]

Whad'ya bet that the pic Kevin smith saw was something like the photo described above with Affleck's face put into the cowl... y'know... a manip

Anyway, speaking of which, here's tonight's manip...

These are some pretty giant res pics, if you open them in another window.