BvS The Batsuit Thread - - - - - - Part 29

[Bathead]

Where was this sentiment back in the old black rubber days, cuz the rubber crowd making judgements and assumptions about people who didn't fawn over things they way they did was the norm.

Yup, more than one of us black and grey fabric guys were accused of being fanboys or old fart traditionalists back then.

 

[Enriquespy]

Is the word "Fanboy" despective?

 

[Bathead]

Is the word "Fanboy" despective?

Ummm ...what? I don't believe that's real word. It ain't in the dictionary at least.

 

[KillerWolf]

The range of motion of a neck that thick (I honestly think in front views it's a little TOO wide) is pretty remarkable. Why did it take this long to get it like that?

I think that's the reason why it is so wide. Some sort of air pockets inside it... I know that's what they were going for with "Batman Begins" cowl (which looks quite similar to this one to me), but it obviously didn't work then. It would seem they managed to make it work now. Technology couldn't change so much from then, so I think they just had better people at it this time, possibly combined with director that insisted on it much more.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

The range of motion of a neck that thick (I honestly think in front views it's a little TOO wide) is pretty remarkable. Why did it take this long to get it like that?

I, for one, would love to know the answer to that question. I'd imagine that previous costume designers, such as Lindy Hemming, would as well.

 

[regwec]

Is the word "Fanboy" despective?

I suppose "despective" means looking back, as opposed to "prospective" (looking forwards)? Or, judging from the context alone, do you mean pejorative?

 

[regwec]

I think the neck is particularly thick on the stunt driver because the cowl has been less painstakingly well fitted to him.

 

[KillerWolf]

I suppose "despective" means looking back, as opposed to "prospective" (looking forwards)? Or, judging from the context alone, do you mean pejorative?

I believe it is a derogatory term. I could be wrong though.

 

[Boom]

Could also have a built-in brace just in cause of an accident.

 

[Lencho01]

I wouldnt even say Batfleck's outfit represents the classic design.

I just look at it as a modern Schumacher suit with a more comic twist, matching Snyder's tastes.

 

[KillerWolf]

Could also have a built-in brace just in cause of an accident.

For a stunt driver you mean? Yeah, that's good thinking.

 

[Marvin]

It's absolutely true that the original source isn't automatically better. For example, Marvel Studios has had much success with their costumes emulating what was in current modern comics, but not the "classic" versions.

Iron Man was inspired by the Adi Granov version, not the 60s version. There's no way you could do the exact 60s version in live action and make it look good or believable.

Same with Thor. To take the original Jack Kirby look and transfer it to live action directly just wouldn't work, without significant alteration or embellishment.

Not that those aren't great classic designs. They'd just look silly with exact translations.

Blade's movie look was necessary because his comic look would have been laughable.

Spider-Man, on the other hand, is a great classic design that DOES translate well pretty much directly from page to costume.

And so to is Batman's classic black and grey look. It's simple, striking and elegant and the new suit proves it "works" in live action. And that's why the people who always wanted them to go for that look wanted it - because the believed it would work, and were sick of the Batman movie makers not bothering to try.

So yeah, blindly wanting it to be faithful to the source purely for faithfulness' sake isn't automatically a good idea, but with some characters, their classic design certainly allows it to be successfully done.

I tend to agree with this. For me, it's not so much that one argues that something is or is not source accurate, but rather why that is inherently better or worse. Like the F4 costumes for instance.

There is another discussion as to how characters(say thor) tend to have modern costume updates in source widely known to 'fans' prior the 'movies' happening.
Where as with (say) superman, you have something like modern underwear update being something that can be called 'bold'.

 

[william]

Great!

Source: http://patokali.deviantart.com/

 

[Bruce Malone]

I don't like that Bat model there that people keep using in the manips.

It makes Batman look sort of overly stumpy and stocky, like an over-grown dwarf almost. The proportions don't seem to be a good representation of how the suit and Ben will look on film.

 

[The Batman]

I just look at it as a modern Schumacher suit with a more comic twist, matching Snyder's tastes.

Honesty, there is something about snyder's aesthetics that kind of felt like a gritty version of schumacher's visuals, IMO

 

[Lencho01]

Honesty, there is something about snyder's aesthetics that kind of felt like a gritty version of schumacher's visuals, IMO

I talked about it in the Supersuit thread with a somewhat negative reaction. t:

Jokes aside, to me the Supersuit and Batsuit are just what Schumacher did, but with even more muscles, added vasculature, removal of nipples, and the appearance of a skin-tight cloth over naked bodies. Snyder and Wilkinson just took it to a new level. It's why I kinda laugh at the suits when I look at them sometimes.

 

[MrsKent26]

I talked about it in the Supersuit thread with a somewhat negative reaction. t:

Jokes aside, to me the Supersuit and Batsuit are just what Schumacher did, but with even more muscles, added vasculature, removal of nipples, and the appearance of a skin-tight cloth over naked bodies. Snyder and Wilkinson just took it to a new level. It's why I kinda laugh at the suits when I look at them sometimes.

I won't give you a negative reaction, but I must admit I don't see that many similarities. Both seem to have a focus on muscular male physiques (but superhero costumes often do that in comics). The fabrics, symbols, and colors are different. I also find Synder's use of the male form less flamboyant and trashy. Snyder's seems more classic and even a tad rugged or perhaps more comic book hero and less Night at the Roxbury.

 

[Sawyer]

Jokes aside, to me the Supersuit and Batsuit are just what Schumacher did, but with even more muscles, added vasculature, removal of nipples, and the appearance of a skin-tight cloth over naked bodies.

So... nothing like what Schumacher did, then.

 

[Lencho01]

I won't give you a negative reaction, but I must admit I don't see that many similarities. Both seem to have a focus on muscular male physiques (but superhero costumes often do that in comics). The fabrics, symbols, and colors are different. I also find Synder's use of the male form less flamboyant and trashy. Snyder's seems more classic and even a tad rugged or perhaps more comic book hero and less Night at the Roxbury.

Just overly muscular to the point of comedy. Both for different reasons. Schumacher trying to make them like Greek statues. Snyder trying to make them like comics (just as/more extreme depending on which are you compare it to).

So... nothing like what Schumacher did, then.

Nah, still view it as a modern version of it. Perfect bodies and all that jazz.

 

[John Locke]

The suits fit with how Snyder wants to portray the characters. He wants them to be gods.

 

[Lencho01]

I don't get any god-like vibes other than Superman (due to MOS and the BvS trailer and not the suit), but ok.

 

[John Locke]

Unite the Seven is godlike and there is that crew shirt that has the Gods walk among us" quote. So it's been heavily rumored that he is. The suits will add to that portrayal.

 

[John-An]

I won't give you a negative reaction, but I must admit I don't see that many similarities. Both seem to have a focus on muscular male physiques (but superhero costumes often do that in comics). The fabrics, symbols, and colors are different. I also find Synder's use of the male form less flamboyant and trashy. Snyder's seems more classic and even a tad rugged or perhaps more comic book hero and less Night at the Roxbury.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

I won't give you a negative reaction, but I must admit I don't see that many similarities. Both seem to have a focus on muscular male physiques (but superhero costumes often do that in comics). The fabrics, symbols, and colors are different. I also find Synder's use of the male form less flamboyant and trashy. Snyder's seems more classic and even a tad rugged or perhaps more comic book hero and less Night at the Roxbury.

 

[Lencho01]

Unite the Seven is godlike and there is that crew shirt that has the Gods walk among us" quote. So it's been heavily rumored that he is. The suits will add to that portrayal.

I don't get that from "Unite the Seven", but ok. Don't know about the shirts, but ok to that too. Their suits thus far don't give off any god vibes to me. Just suits.