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BvS The Batsuit Thread - - - - - - - Part 30

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I agree, all of those costumes are awesome, I'd add Raimi Spidey, post-TWS Captain America, and Thor to the list. The new Batsuit is brilliant, but it's just another in a slew of great superhero costumes.

While those are all great costumes (although I'm not a fan of any of the Cap costumes), I think the BvS Batsuit is on a different level. Definitely the best superhero costume I've seen with BvS Superman and ASM2 coming in 2nd and 3rd respectively.

Edit: I should say I think the WW costume looks great, too, but I need to see more.
 
Sculpted musculature probably helps with the whole "creature" aesthetic.

I wouldn't use "creature" to describe it since he still looks like a human. Intimidating, sure. Big guys tend to be that way.
 
In terms of what? Batman? Easily.

In terms of general superhero costuming? I would hold Reeve's costume, Cavil's costume, Deadpool, ASM 2 Spider-man, and Iron Man's suits to be as good.

All fine costumes - I'd put CA the First Avenger in there too.
However I think I may be the only person not loving the Deadpool costume! Can't quite put my finger on why... I think it may be that Ryan Reynolds looks a bit skinny wearing it - or the white eyes... something i've wanted Batman to have for years, yet somehow they just look wrong. I just hope it comes across different on the big screen.
 
Besides Batfleck, I think the original Ironman suit was amazing!
 
I don't think people object to the muscles (or muscle shaped armour) themselves, rather how much they show through the suit.

It IS kind of ridiculous. They obviously went out of their way to ensure that ALL muscle detail shows through the suit. Which kind of implies that Bruce Wayne cared enough to do the same thing. That's not how stretch fabric over muscles usually looks.

I still love how the suit looks, but a smoother, less defined look would be more restrained and "realistic". But obviously Snyder wanted that heightened look.

I mean, as muscular as Cavill's Supes looks, his suit doesn't hug every contour nearly as much as Affleck's does.

I believe that muscles in Superman's suit are more subtle due to the fact that we have to believe that the suit is very fitting and these are Kal-El's real muscles that are protruding through it.
The same does not go for Batman. I think it is obvious that he has an armor underneath (especially noticeable on pectorals) and that armor is shaped that way to give Bruce huge bestial physique which goes in line with him wanting to appear like a monster to the criminals. It is not meant for us to believe that Bruce is really as ripped as the suit makes him look.
 
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I think this is the best costume ever created. Who agrees with me?
I think the DCCU costumes so far (MOS and BvS Superman costume, BvS Batsuit, BvS Wonder Woman armor, Aquaman armor, Kryptonian armor) are the best CBM costumes in the history of CBMs. Next to those, I'd say the Raimi and TASM2 Spiderman costumes, then the CA:TWS Cap suit, then the Nolan trilogy Batsuits.

I definitely hate the Thor costume. Looks fake. All of the Asgardian costumes look plastic/toy-like. In fact, I really don't like most MCU costumes at all.

All fine costumes - I'd put CA the First Avenger in there too.
However I think I may be the only person not loving the Deadpool costume! Can't quite put my finger on why... I think it may be that Ryan Reynolds looks a bit skinny wearing it - or the white eyes... something i've wanted Batman to have for years, yet somehow they just look wrong. I just hope it comes across different on the big screen.

For me, he's way too skinny in the suit. I think muscle padding (slight muscle padding, just to give some muscle definition to the suit) would be good for Deadpool. His chest especially is just too flat in the suit. Overall, his body build is decent, but he needs some muscle padding to help the aesthetic of the suit.

I believe that muscles in Superman's suit are more subtle due to the fact that we have to believe that the suit is very fitting and these are Kal-El's real muscles that are protruding through it.
The same does not go for Batman. I think it is obvious that he has an armor underneath (especially noticeable on pectorals) and that armor is shaped that way to give Bruce huge bestial physique which goes in line with him wanting to appear like a monster to the criminals. It is not meant for us to believe that Bruce is really as ripped as the suit makes him look.

And, seeing set pics of Bruce Wayne, we KNOW that he isn't that big. Even the cowl makes his head look much bigger.
 
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And, seeing set pics of Bruce Wayne, we KNOW that he isn't that big. Even the cowl makes his head look much bigger.

Exactly. That's why I would find it ridiculous only if we're meant to believe that. But we are not, it's just that Bruce gains a bestial appearance when in suit (and I believe I actually read somewhere once that his height and weight are supposed to be different when in the batsuit). Which, by the way, would further help him in hiding his identity.
 
This. It looks that much more organic. It's really not that complicated. Batman designed his suit to look intimidating. One thing that intimidates is a big, strong muscular look.


Correct.
 
I wouldn't use "creature" to describe it since he still looks like a human. Intimidating, sure. Big guys tend to be that way.
The exaggerated musculature. The sinewy, "second skin" texture of the bodysuit. The scars. I'd say that these do inspire a more monstrous and living aesthetic, especially when the complete ensemble is presented in such shadowed environments where the eyes play tricks on the mind.
 
The exaggerated musculature. The sinewy, "second skin" texture of the bodysuit. The scars. I'd say that these do inspire a more monstrous and living aesthetic, especially when the complete ensemble is presented in such shadowed environments where the eyes play tricks on the mind.

Exactly.
 
The other thing to consider too is that the added padding was probably necessary to even out his proportions in relation to the size of the neck and cowl. I mean, even now some people have pointed out how big his head looks in certain shots. Imagine if they put minimal padding on Affleck. It'd look downright comical. Maybe someday when they've mastered how to make a skintight cowl, then we won't need to see as much padding. Til then, it's pretty necessary to keep proportional logic intact.

Whether it's meant to be creature-like or not, the fact that the padding was shaped to appear like natural musculature is certainly intended to make him look physically imposing. Weaving in and out of the shadows, mostly unseen. What criminal wouldn't think that it's all him?
 
The exaggerated musculature. The sinewy, "second skin" texture of the bodysuit. The scars. I'd say that these do inspire a more monstrous and living aesthetic, especially when the complete ensemble is presented in such shadowed environments where the eyes play tricks on the mind.

Well said. Someone described the new Batman looking like a gargoyle come to life, I loved that.
 
That would be me. And I agree with Boom's second post as well.
 
The texture of the suit does straddle the line between leathery skin and chipped cement- the gargoyle comparison someone had earlier is spot on.
 
Based on Hammer's description, I keep imagining a suit that would be the most "real" and "tactical" suit we've seen in live-action. Like if you lost the major aspects that scream "Batman" like the cowl, symbol, and gauntlets, it'd look like something SWAT could use. But, that's just my take on Hammer's words. Just have to wait and see about all that.

I just listened to an interview with Adam Brody, who was cast as Barry Allen aka The Flash in the aborted Justice League where Hammer was cast as Batman. During the discussion Brody said that the actors had all tried on costumes, and that halfway through the film, Batman would have been wrecked physically, and that he would be getting an exoskeleton based on the Alex Ross design from Kingdom Come. That is probably the batsuit Hammer has described.

On another note, the Batfleck suit is PERFECTION!!!
 
I think this is the best costume ever created. Who agrees with me?

I think it's part of the esteemed gallery that includes Cavill's supersuit, Raimi and ASM2 spidey suits, and TWS Cap. The best batsuit? Definitely.

I wouldn't use "creature" to describe it since he still looks like a human. Intimidating, sure. Big guys tend to be that way.

I find he looks "creature" in the way that batman is supposed to. Yes, he's still obviously a human, but he's a human that has taken on the characteristics of his mission and his streets. He's this:

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Or at least as close to it as they've come so far. For me, this is batman and I can see much of this in Batfleck. The muscular physique is the least of it. In both the picture above and the official batfleck pic, there's an overall vibe of mystery, quiet strength, and perhaps even melancholy, belonging to a man that has descended partially into his chosen beast. The batfleck suit has weathered and scarred "skin," leathery and encompassing "wings" of a cape and a sculpted, flexible cowl. Together they actually look...batish and even a bit organic (refreshing after all the rubber and tactical themes of the past). A brilliant suit, IMO.
 
I find he looks "creature" in the way that batman is supposed to. Yes, he's still obviously a human, but he's a human that has taken on the characteristics of his mission and his streets. He's this:

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Or at least as close to it as they've come so far. For me, this is batman and I can see much of this in Batfleck. The muscular physique is the least of it. In both the picture above and the official batfleck pic, there's an overall vibe of mystery, quiet strength, and perhaps even melancholy, belonging to a man that has descended partially into his chosen beast. The batfleck suit has weathered and scarred "skin," leathery and encompassing "wings" of a cape and a sculpted, flexible cowl. Together they actually look...batish and even a bit organic (refreshing after all the rubber and tactical themes of the past). A brilliant suit, IMO.

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As far as the creature stuff goes, I never really got that vine from Batman unless outright depicted as such. Just a white dude in a suit. Another superhero. I've never gotten that vine from his live-action selections as well other than that moment in BB. That's just how I view the character. It's also the majority of his depictions from artists, a superhero. This suit just only looks "beastly" in the same way any other muscular man with a scowl would to me, but still a man.
 
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