BvS The Batsuit Thread - - - - - - - - Part 31

[hafizbat]

I am talking about all Batman films. They never really depicted him as detective, like comics tend to do.

This was a great scene showing Batman's strategic prowess in battle (though it is a bit spoiled by the fact that in order to do so, Batman had to rely on a technology that is a bit too "out there" for this grounded universe), but one can count scenes like this in entire trilogy on the fingers of one hand.

And my "problem" with Batman in TDK trilogy is that he was either punching, threatening and asking questions (which is quite legitimate part of Batman's M.O.) or was relying too heavily on ridiculously advanced technology from Wayne Ent. (something which also irks me with "Arkham" games).

He never really sat down and tried to connect the dots. For example, in "Batman Begins" it was told to us that he wanted to understand criminals, so he even immersed himself in criminal life to learn how they think, but we never really got to see him do psychological profiling, trying to understand what motivates his opponents and trying to out-think them.

Granted, both sequels told stories that demanded this approach - Joker was supposed to be the character one cannot fully understand and to lesser extent him failing to understand his opponent was needed in "The Dark Knight Rises" as well. He was far from Batman in his prime, but what made him lose the first fight with Bane was him completely underestimating him - "Ra's al Ghul was the League of Shadows and I defeated him. Bane is just a mercenary."

Story called for him to do so, but dismissing and underestimating his opponents like this is not something an experienced Batman should do.

I'd like to see the version that is not simply tech-reliant, but actually carefully thinks about his real and potential enemies and comes up with elaborate plans to defeat them.

You make fair points, especially about over-powered technology, but I'm gonna have to disagree with your overall point. There were plenty of detective moments in the TDK trilogy. They may not have been as in-your-face as Batman analyzing a crime scene like Sherlock, but it was there. Just a few things off the top of my head,

-Eavesdropping on Crane in BB

-He definitely figured out Ra's by the end of BB, turning his use of the environment against him. "You never learned to mind your surroundings.."

-Figuring out the Joker's plot to kill the Mayor and finding the tied-and-gagged guards by cross-referencing addresses of Arkham inmates

-The bullet-reconstruction scene. Hokey, I know, but it's there.

-Reprimanding Dent when he interrogates Thomas Schiff, a "paranoid schizophrenic. The type of mind the Joker attracts."

-Knowing nearly all of the GCPD members names and faces (shown during the Coleman Reese scene)

-He again showed how quickly he learns about his opponent when he says "It's not that simple with the Joker. It never is." when the police are formulating a plan to take out the clowns on Prewitt. Without his intervention, they would have played right into the Joker's hands.

-He also shows how well he knows Dent, when he says just the right thing to appeal to Dent's sense of justice and shift the blame onto the three of them, buying himself time and opportunity to save the boy.

-Showing his knowledge of cat-burglary when Selina Kyle robs him, which prompts Alfred to say "Maybe you should exchange notes over coffee."

-Fixing the Bat's autopilot by himself

And I'm sure that's not all of it. I tried to keep out the instances where technology was involved, because I agree with your distaste for it. As for an experienced Batman not underestimating his opponents...didn't Batman do exactly that in TDKR when he fights the Mutant leader the first time? I don't think overconfidence is really out of character for Batman.

 

[lujho]

Sooo, the costume for at least the next two Batman appearances is done and dusted, and a fine one it is, but there's still far more than one way to skin a bat, and I'd certainly be open to variations in style in future movies (even if it's in a future reboot rather than Affleck)

I came across this version in a Batman Black & White comic and I really love it. It has a couple of aspects that I'd thought about but never was sure if I'd like or not - shoulder pads, and a harnessy thing attacked to the cape. Both kind of Paul-Pope-y Ideas.

This is also the first appearance of an idea that we came up with on these very forums over a decade ago: the "trunks-as harness" idea, in an official Batman comic, and I quite like it.

The under-arm gun holsters I can take or leave (I'm pretty sure they're just for his grappling guns) but it gives him a cool "The Shadow type feel.

I know some people will have problems with the slight variations from the traditional, but I like the more tactical look, and even some or all of these tweaks over the existing Batfleck batsuit would look pretty cool to me.

 

[matt47]

You know what I would've loved? A holster on his leg for his grapnel gun. Makes a lot more sense for when he wants to use it quickly. Maybe even have some batarangs on his boots like some do with throwing knives.

 

[regwec]

I like the design above, but I think I think it would resemble a step into Batman's past. It would be a good costume for a new origin movie rather than for "The Batman" or "Justice League".

 

[lujho]

True, he wouldn't add anything like that if he'd done fine without them for 20 years. Maybe in some "early years" flashbacks.

 

[matt47]

Yeah, it was cool to get a glimpse of this kinda thing in BB. Man....what a great origin story.

 

[godisawesome]

Sooo, the costume for at least the next two Batman appearances is done and dusted, and a fine one it is, but there's still far more than one way to skin a bat, and I'd certainly be open to variations in style in future movies (even if it's in a future reboot rather than Affleck)

I came across this version in a Batman Black & White comic and I really love it. It has a couple of aspects that I'd thought about but never was sure if I'd like or not - shoulder pads, and a harnessy thing attacked to the cape. Both kind of Paul-Pope-y Ideas.

This is also the first appearance of an idea that we came up with on these very forums over a decade ago: the "trunks-as harness" idea, in an official Batman comic, and I quite like it.

The under-arm gun holsters I can take or leave (I'm pretty sure they're just for his grappling guns) but it gives him a cool "The Shadow type feel.

I know some people will have problems with the slight variations from the traditional, but I like the more tactical look, and even some or all of these tweaks over the existing Batfleck batsuit would look pretty cool to me.

I'd combine its most obvious deviations from the classic look with Cappullo's Zero Year suit.
http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/20.../10/enhanced-buzz-wide-20780-1381327991-7.jpg

 

[Mike_D202]

Just wanted to show off my new batsuit, I made the pattern in photoshop then sent it to a company in China to have it printed/sewn. Did my best to make it look like the Batfleck suit:

 

[The Shape]

Make sure to stock up on a LOT of bronze paint for your knuckles, gauntlet blades, and toe tips. That is the most crucial element of this suit.

 

[jokesonm3]

And no Hockey Pads!

 

[Broseph44]

Just wanted to show off my new batsuit, I made the pattern in photoshop then sent it to a company in China to have it printed/sewn. Did my best to make it look like the Batfleck suit:

You forgot the most crucial part though

 

[titansupes]

That suit looks awesome so far, Mike_D202.

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

Make sure to stock up on a LOT of bronze paint for your knuckles, gauntlet blades, and toe tips. That is the most crucial element of this suit.

 

[Mike_D202]

I already have two gallons of bronze paint ready to go!

ALSO, I'm working on the protruding nipples. Should I bronze those too?! NEED INPUT.

 

[regwec]

Let me be the first to say that the undersuit you have so far is very impressive. I look forward to seeing the rest.

 

[KillerWolf]

You make fair points, especially about over-powered technology, but I'm gonna have to disagree with your overall point. There were plenty of detective moments in the TDK trilogy. They may not have been as in-your-face as Batman analyzing a crime scene like Sherlock, but it was there. Just a few things off the top of my head,

-Eavesdropping on Crane in BB

-He definitely figured out Ra's by the end of BB, turning his use of the environment against him. "You never learned to mind your surroundings.."

-Figuring out the Joker's plot to kill the Mayor and finding the tied-and-gagged guards by cross-referencing addresses of Arkham inmates

-The bullet-reconstruction scene. Hokey, I know, but it's there.

-Reprimanding Dent when he interrogates Thomas Schiff, a "paranoid schizophrenic. The type of mind the Joker attracts."

-Knowing nearly all of the GCPD members names and faces (shown during the Coleman Reese scene)

-He again showed how quickly he learns about his opponent when he says "It's not that simple with the Joker. It never is." when the police are formulating a plan to take out the clowns on Prewitt. Without his intervention, they would have played right into the Joker's hands.

-He also shows how well he knows Dent, when he says just the right thing to appeal to Dent's sense of justice and shift the blame onto the three of them, buying himself time and opportunity to save the boy.

-Showing his knowledge of cat-burglary when Selina Kyle robs him, which prompts Alfred to say "Maybe you should exchange notes over coffee."

-Fixing the Bat's autopilot by himself

And I'm sure that's not all of it. I tried to keep out the instances where technology was involved, because I agree with your distaste for it. As for an experienced Batman not underestimating his opponents...didn't Batman do exactly that in TDKR when he fights the Mutant leader the first time? I don't think overconfidence is really out of character for Batman.

Good point. Funny how some of these things slipped my mind. I guess I'll have to rewatch the trilogy.

And you also make a good point about overconfidence being in-character with Batman.

 

[Alien Anal]

Sooo, the costume for at least the next two Batman appearances is done and dusted, and a fine one it is, but there's still far more than one way to skin a bat, and I'd certainly be open to variations in style in future movies (even if it's in a future reboot rather than Affleck)

I came across this version in a Batman Black & White comic and I really love it. It has a couple of aspects that I'd thought about but never was sure if I'd like or not - shoulder pads, and a harnessy thing attacked to the cape. Both kind of Paul-Pope-y Ideas.

This is also the first appearance of an idea that we came up with on these very forums over a decade ago: the "trunks-as harness" idea, in an official Batman comic, and I quite like it.

The under-arm gun holsters I can take or leave (I'm pretty sure they're just for his grappling guns) but it gives him a cool "The Shadow type feel.

I know some people will have problems with the slight variations from the traditional, but I like the more tactical look, and even some or all of these tweaks over the existing Batfleck batsuit would look pretty cool to me.

Heck dude! This looks so nice. Really like the suit and illustration. What comic is it from?

 

[Super Kal]

i really like that look

 

[lujho]

Heck dude! This looks so nice. Really like the suit and illustration. What comic is it from?

Batman Black & White, volume 4.

 

[Gold Samurai]

Just wanted to show off my new batsuit, I made the pattern in photoshop then sent it to a company in China to have it printed/sewn. Did my best to make it look like the Batfleck suit:

Make sure to order in large quantities like say ....10,000?

So it's not suspicious

 

[hafizbat]

The suit is so great that it works for everyone in the family. I'd like to see a Nightwing version.

 

[souNdwAve89]

I know some don't really like the idea, but I think it's neat how Robin's suit uses the same fabric material, belt, gauntlets, etc that Bruce uses. That Batgirl fanart is awesome too.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I like the idea as well. It makes it feel more like a uniform instead of a costume, and batman should treat it as such. And it makes sense aesthetically, why wouldn't it be made from the same protective materials that batmans has.

 

[hafizbat]

Yeah, it doesn't make much sense for Robin and the others to have very different suits. Style? Sure. Materials/construction? No.

Batman would obviously want the best possible suits for his protégés, and would give them the stuff he uses for himself.

 

[Majik1387]

Then why did he give Robin the dumb shorts?