BvS The Batsuit Thread - Part 9

[charl_huntress]

^^heheeh...lol. Lots of lolz tonight..lol

 

[badgrammar]

even though they are fictional...how old are they all supposed to be? not 75 i would imagine.

This...

I can't stand that "they're fictional" attitude... Lets make batman 60 feet tall since he's fictional.

Morrison needs to get over himself and give the answer the guy was seeking.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Bruce Wayne is a TOON!

Um Spoiler Alert!!!

 

[Sub-Zero]

You know you like it

I feel like the right one is a little more concave. realism. not everyone's nips are proportional. kudos Schumacher. this is what I want in the batsuitfleck. it was a less turbulent time in society.

 

[BatScot]

Batman: Dead End (a fan film) for the uninitiated. An all-around mediocre execution, but undeniably features one of the most iconic Batman shots I've ever witnessed on any medium. Absolutely sublime.

Nice to see Dead End being reasonably discussed without the fear doom and damnation

 

[regwec]

We are currently between commercially propagated designs, which is always the best time to discuss things of this type. Once we have a new, WB-approved orthodoxy, the debate will neatly divide between those who hate it and those who suddenly hate absolutely everything else.

 

[Infinity9999x]

We are currently between commercially propagated designs, which is always the best time to discuss things of this type. Once we have a new, WB-approved orthodoxy, the debate will neatly divide between those who hate it and those who suddenly hate absolutely everything else.

That was one of the things that really saddened me when Nolan took over. Overall, I vastly prefer his approach, but I always loved the Burton films (well, B89, as a kid BR creeped me out). When BB came out suddenly tons of people started ripping on them. It was like people couldn't comprehend enjoying both interpretations.

While Burton's films have their flaws, I'll always love them because B89 is what first introduced me to a "serious" Batman. The B89 "I'm Batman" gave me chills, and is still my favorite "I'm Batman" delivery to this day. Yeah, parts of it haven't aged well, but they're still awesome.

And the same thing will happen to the Nolan films if this next version of Bats is good. Maybe not to the same extreme, because the series as a whole (TDK especially) was very highly praised, but it'll happen.

 

[Eggyman]

Yes reg. I'd like to take this opportunity to say how much I hated Nolan's batsuits for all those coming out of the woodwork remarks that get thrown about later. I don't like it now, and I won't later -- irrespective of if I'm pleased by Snyder's.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

That was one of the things that really saddened me when Nolan took over. Overall, I vastly prefer his approach, but I always loved the Burton films (well, B89, as a kid BR creeped me out). When BB came out suddenly tons of people started ripping on them. It was like people couldn't comprehend enjoying both interpretations.

While Burton's films have their flaws, I'll always love them because B89 is what first introduced me to a "serious" Batman. The B89 "I'm Batman" gave me chills, and is still my favorite "I'm Batman" delivery to this day. Yeah, parts of it haven't aged well, but they're still awesome.

And the same thing will happen to the Nolan films if this next version of Bats is good. Maybe not to the same extreme, because the series as a whole (TDK especially) was very highly praised, but it'll happen.

When the reboot hits and people like it, they'll backlash against Nolan (and let's face it, they kinda did for TDKR). When the reboot hits and if they don't like it, they'll whine that it's not a sequel to tdkr and that Nolan's not directing. Additionally, TDKR will be redeemed, much as ROTJ was "redeemed" by the prequels.

 

[Eggyman]

When the reboot hits and people like it, they'll backlash against Nolan (and let's face it, they kinda did for TDKR). When the reboot hits and if they don't like it, they'll whine that it's not a sequel to tdkr and that Nolan's not directing. Additionally, TDKR will be redeemed, much as ROTJ was "redeemed" by the prequels.

Some fans can appear spiteful about stuff like this. Whereas others, like me, it's very cut and dry. The most I can say is that I want the films to be good because I'm a fan of the character. If I prefer one over the other, this is the place to say it. There's no ego. It's just entertainment. It doesn't come across that way with some here.

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

I always loved the Burton films (well, B89, as a kid BR creeped me out).

I was about 8 years old when I watched Batman Returns. It didn't creep me out. It creeped my mother out... I remember how angry she was when the end credits rolled. "No more Batman movies for you!", she said. "There's only two Batman movies", I answered. A year or so later, Batman Forever came out.

Batman Returns never felt weird or creepy to me when I was a little boy. The only thing that disturbed me was that giant crab-thing in the zoo. I didn't understand that it was supposed to a statue or something... I thought it was a giant monster crab. A frozen monster crab in a Batman movie? That's weird

 

[regwec]

I think it's because there is a tendency to want something to be seminal. The existence of other valid interpretations threatens that, so they have to be derided, no matter how disingenuously. And we are all asked to pretend that the current is perfect and that the past is "silly".

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

To me, it's like building blocks.

As technology gets better and the material is taken more seriously, then the movies will improve, dating the older ones in comparison.

But there needed to be a foundation for the elements of the superhero genre to lean on.

Superman: TM, Batman89, and even X-men and BB kind of broke the mold at the time of creation.

So we should respect the works that helped progress the genre, instead of throwing them under the bus.

 

[regwec]

Exactly how seriously can something be taken, and how appropriate is it to do so? Is it really your contention that, with each interpretation being more po-faced and worthy than the last, each movie will have more artistic merit than the last?

 

[Keyser Soze]

That was one of the things that really saddened me when Nolan took over. Overall, I vastly prefer his approach, but I always loved the Burton films (well, B89, as a kid BR creeped me out). When BB came out suddenly tons of people started ripping on them. It was like people couldn't comprehend enjoying both interpretations.

While Burton's films have their flaws, I'll always love them because B89 is what first introduced me to a "serious" Batman. The B89 "I'm Batman" gave me chills, and is still my favorite "I'm Batman" delivery to this day. Yeah, parts of it haven't aged well, but they're still awesome.

And the same thing will happen to the Nolan films if this next version of Bats is good. Maybe not to the same extreme, because the series as a whole (TDK especially) was very highly praised, but it'll happen.

It's already happening. I'm seeing plenty of people retroactively talking about how Nolan "ruined" Batman and now another director needs to come in and "fix" him, the grass is always greener...

Currently, at least, the Nolan films are the definitive movie Batman for me, and I think any series that follows will have a hard time topping them. But I still love the Burton movies. Whenever I put one of them on it's like opening a portal back to my childhood and some of the formative experiences that made me into the lifelong Batman fan that embraced the Nolan films so heartily years later. I hate this idea that you have to "pick a side" and like either Burton or Nolan. I like both of their approaches to Batman, in different ways.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Yes reg. I'd like to take this opportunity to say how much I hated Nolan's batsuits for all those coming out of the woodwork remarks that get thrown about later. I don't like it now, and I won't later -- irrespective of if I'm pleased by Snyder's.

I'm of the opinion that the TDK/TDKR Batsuit still didn't get it right, but was closer to right than anything that had come before. So while I was a fan and defender of that Batsuit, I acknowledge there's room for improvement and am hoping they can surpass it with this version.

 

[Sub-Zero]

The whole game changer comment makes no sense. The Thor ironman and hulk costumes are right out of the comics as are the avengers capt , and hawkeye costumes. Chris reeve's superman wore the comics suit, too. Is this just a game changer for batman or superhero movie costumes?

 

[BatFan1979]

it would be more for visual effect more than anything. It's the one aspect of the cape nolan got right. It was at several lengths depending on the scene. Most people didn't even notice.

I just want this to be honest:

yes!!

 

[matt47]

It's already happening. I'm seeing plenty of people retroactively talking about how Nolan "ruined" Batman and now another director needs to come in and "fix" him, the grass is always greener...

Currently, at least, the Nolan films are the definitive movie Batman for me, and I think any series that follows will have a hard time topping them. But I still love the Burton movies. Whenever I put one of them on it's like opening a portal back to my childhood and some of the formative experiences that made me into the lifelong Batman fan that embraced the Nolan films so heartily years later. I hate this idea that you have to "pick a side" and like either Burton or Nolan. I like both of their approaches to Batman, in different ways.

I remember when I watched it in the theatre I absolutely loved the crabs out of it! now after reading and watching so many people crap on it I just had to go back and watch it again and wow...I love this movie! I cried, I laughed, I cringed(back break scene) I had nearly every emotion I could possibly had!
But...to me...I still don't see THE batman..I see a guy trying to me Batman, just like every movie in the trilogy (begins the least) So with that said, I cannot wait to see what Zack and Ben do with Batman, hopefully we will see you know..batman! With the detective skills, the fighting, the gadgets all that! not just aspects of it.

 

[Shikamaru]

Meh. Not to go too off topic, but I highly doubt we'll see THE Batman in the upcoming Affleck film. Not only have they made Batman around a decade older than Superman because he somehow can't be an equal to the Year One counterparts of the JL (think about how weak Year One Batman must have been in this universe compared to Year One comic book Batman, going by this logic), but it also seems they're going with the crazy right-wing extremist route of Dark Knight Returns/Kingdom Come. That and I'm not too thrilled with Affleck being cast (though part of that is due to the just-stated reasons). I'll even take the BB/TDK Batman at this point.

The batsuit is really the only thing I still have hope for at this point. It's actually funny, but literally every single time I click on this thread ready to rant on what they should/shouldn't go for, I ask myself why I am still so invested in this particular version of Batman. I guess the Batfan in me just can't let go of anything good Batman-related, even if it only involves just clothing.

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

it also seems they're going with the crazy right-wing extremist route of Dark Knight Returns/Kingdom Come. .

What makes you think that? It's too early to say anything about it

Right-wing extremist Batman? Hmmm...

Batman: "get yuh blue ass the heyull outta 'Murica, illegal sunova*****!"

t:

 

[BattleAngel]

It is with an ecstatic mix of horror, revulsion, and giddiness that I reveal to you all what may very well likely be THE WORST Bat-Suit image ever posted to the internet. I'm so, so proud of it.

Just remember, folks... whatever Snyder/Batfleck give us... there is no way in Bat-Hell that it could ever be this bad. Not even close.

Enjoy...................




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[charl_huntress]

Hehehe.....LOL

The lulz...omg God though...is Bats doing a pull-up in this pic?

 

[matt47]

Hehehe.....LOL

The lulz...omg God though...is Bats doing a pull-up in this pic?

It's actually Ben Affleck doing pullups in the town.
Oh and I hope we get that exact look for bats now!

 

[Infinity9999x]

Meh. Not to go too off topic, but I highly doubt we'll see THE Batman in the upcoming Affleck film. Not only have they made Batman around a decade older than Superman because he somehow can't be an equal to the Year One counterparts of the JL (think about how weak Year One Batman must have been in this universe compared to Year One comic book Batman, going by this logic), but it also seems they're going with the crazy right-wing extremist route of Dark Knight Returns/Kingdom Come. That and I'm not too thrilled with Affleck being cast (though part of that is due to the just-stated reasons). I'll even take the BB/TDK Batman at this point.

The batsuit is really the only thing I still have hope for at this point. It's actually funny, but literally every single time I click on this thread ready to rant on what they should/shouldn't go for, I ask myself why I am still so invested in this particular version of Batman. I guess the Batfan in me just can't let go of anything good Batman-related, even if it only involves just clothing.

Before you pass judgement, I would do one very important thing first:

Watch the actual movie.

Now, don't get me wrong, I do understand your trepidation. When I read that Synder was directly contacting Miller I was a bit wary. Miller hasn't written anything worthwhile in years (unless you view his stuff as comedy, in which case it's hilarious) and while I appreciate what The Dark Knight Returns did for Batman as a character, parts of that story haven't aged well. I'm not a fan of how Batman acts in parts of that story, with the "she's a good soldier" attitude and forming a secret society comprised of former murdering nutjobs.

However, keep in mind that nearly every Bat-film that's been made since B89 has referenced TDKR as "inspiration" for their films, and none of them really had the full on Miller Batman treatment. We don't know how Synder is going to portray Batman in this film. Heck, we haven't even seen a bad spy-cam picture yet. So give it a bit of a chance before you condemn it.