The Daily Planet - Superman News and Speculation Thread (🚨TAG SPOILERS🚨)

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Disappointing, but not unexpected.

Moving on, I’d like the next Superman film to tackle “truth” as a theme. Not only would it be a great way to make Clark Kent and the Daily Planet staff relevant to the story, but it’d be very interesting to explore the complexities of an icon like Superman preaching the ideals of truth while lying to billions of people everyday about who he really is.

It would also tie in with the very timely question of propoganda, trust in the media and misinformation.
 
It would also tie in with the very timely question of propoganda, trust in the media and misinformation.

My thoughts exactly.

Morgan Edge, Intergang, and the advanced weaponry at their disposal can be the primary antagonists. Edge, through Galaxy Communications, could run a smear campaign against Superman that specializes in publishing either outright false or poorly researched “facts” and “theories” in an attempt to discredit him in the eyes of the public.
 
Morgan Edge and Intergang would be great, but smearing Superman might be a bit similar to BVS.
Perhaps a more insidious approach where Galaxy is trying to on to control Superman; false news stories about disasters to lure him away from an Intergang job, mounting campaigns saying "X is terrible, why doesn't Superman do something about it/them"
 
Morgan Edge and Intergang would be great, but smearing Superman might be a bit similar to BVS.

I don’t think that’d be a problem. Much of the problems with the movie as I understand them have to do with the execution, not necessarily the ideas themselves.

Perhaps a more insidious approach where Galaxy is trying to on to control Superman; false news stories about disasters to lure him away from an Intergang job, mounting campaigns saying "X is terrible, why doesn't Superman do something about it/them"

That works too. I’m honestly just spitballing here. :funny:
 
I don’t think that’d be a problem. Much of the problems with the movie as I understand them have to do with the execution, not necessarily the ideas themselves.



That works too. I’m honestly just spitballing here. :funny:

This would work well as a MOS2 set after MOS but before BvS, it almost alludes to it (the tension and divide luthor created) and stands on it's own seperate thing. Let's see Metropolis rebuild, we superman helping, doing his bit... how the government keep their word by leaving superman alone, so long as he plays ball now and then - we could see him with them, sharing knowledge of the universe he learnt, properties of the metals used, hence why the scout ship is still there being worked on. He could shuttle a satelite into space and do the odd favour. Rival nations are nervous, but also jealous.

We can focus heavily on the DP, let lois really shine and have Perry be more jovial, introduce Cat.. Clark when in the building takes a back seat, he's new to the role after all, blends in, we can see some humour of lois praising superman on one hand, then the other dismissing Clark with Perry. Introduce jimmy that prefers to be called James but Perry digresses...

Have lex snr be a political figure and really stir the pot, pulling strings from behind - using gangs and nervous nations to make matters worse. Eventually Lex snr is outed, but the government deal with him in secret and send him away in disgrace to avoid the political scandal... hence alex jnr being so pissed off and confused why daddy left.
 
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I really want a Superman movie that isn’t a bunch of fighting. :funny:

I want his powers to be displayed in less punchy ways.
 
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I want to see him save people - rescue attempts.. race against time scenarios
 
I would like some of this in any Superman film.

You see, i feel we never got to 'see' superman. We saw in MOS him being called out and into action by zod, in BvS we just saw Alex Ross inspired scenes that never really showed the meat as it were. Ofcourse, you can say 'oh but you know he did these heroic things' but that's no good to me, i want to see it.
Just want to see Clark, living his life as both persona's and how he handles that, have some fun with it.
 
You see, i feel we never got to 'see' superman. We saw in MOS him being called out and into action by zod, in BvS we just saw Alex Ross inspired scenes that never really showed the meat as it were. Ofcourse, you can say 'oh but you know he did these heroic things' but that's no good to me, i want to see it.
Just want to see Clark, living his life as both persona's and how he handles that, have some fun with it.
Saving people is a big part of who he is. I loved seeing Spider-man saving/helping people in the Raimi films.
 
The local citizens of metropolis.. that was what was missing... them really taking him in.
 


Y'know, I've never quite gotten the importance of Metropolis. I understand heroes like Batman or Spider-Man focusing their attention on a single city, but Superman doesn't need to do that. The same goes for the Flash with Central City.
I'm not saying I want them to do away with Metropolis, creating a fictional city gives creators a lot of freedom, but I don't see Superman having a "This is my city" mentality towards it. I my mind he's more of a global hero than a local one.
 
I think it'd be a missed opportunity not to tell a Superman story that looks at journalism at the moment.
The nature of news and the role of reporters is a major issue around the world right now, trust in "the media" is falling and journalist are being persecuted and even killed across the planet.

It would feel way too bombastic and self-pitying/self-important for a movie to try to equate or even compare journalists not being trusted (as they are in the U.S. and Europe) to being persecuted or killed (as they are and long have been internationally). Especially when movies lauding journalists are regularly nominated for and win Oscars.
 
It doesn't need to equate them, both subjects are major issues, a film could look at either or even both. The Daily Planet could easily have reporters around the world, Clark and Lois could be investigating one of their deaths.
 
I prefer a global Superman and I agree that confining him to Metropolis-based crises might limit a film's scope. But I like the idea of developing Metropolis into something it hasn't been in film before and building a story off the "City of Tomorrow" concept. A somewhat more elaborate premise where Metropolis is a beacon of science and of certain enlightened principles... maybe on the verge of a breakthrough that would benefit the planet at large? Create factions within the city, a local dynamic, and draw tension from local politics. Use local gangs, local villains, and address how *only* a city like Metropolis could produce threats like that. If it has to get a little bit sci-fi and less recognizable as the real world, so be it.
 
It looks like WB has a winner on their hands with Aquaman and the proven Wonder Woman. Shazam looks to be following in their footsteps in terms of tone, there is light for DC at the end of the tunnel as far as solo movies go.
 
It looks like WB has a winner on their hands with Aquaman and the proven Wonder Woman. Shazam looks to be following in their footsteps in terms of tone, there is light for DC at the end of the tunnel as far as solo movies go.

I think Aquaman's success is a great thing for the future of a Superman and other DC characters in solo films.
 
I prefer a global Superman and I agree that confining him to Metropolis-based crises might limit a film's scope. But I like the idea of developing Metropolis into something it hasn't been in film before and building a story off the "City of Tomorrow" concept.

It could also, like TAS, try to deal with that Lex is responsible for, did develop a lot of the city's progress and prosperity albeit out of his selfishness. While still being an egomaniac and villain he could also seem pretty appealing to the audience and understandably popular with/admired by the public, Superman while not liking him could at least be puzzled or even bothered by that he had both such good and bad effects.
 
I want to see him save people - rescue attempts.. race against time scenarios

When I saw bits of the "Superman saving people montage" in BVS in the trailers I was really hyped. But in execution it didn't work for me.

I feel it's something that's been glossed over a lot in the DCEU
 
When I saw bits of the "Superman saving people montage" in BVS in the trailers I was really hyped. But in execution it didn't work for me.

I feel it's something that's been glossed over a lot in the DCEU
I feel a lot of the marvel heroes are on like a crusade, spiderman being the only one that is looking out for the every day citizen and that's the aspect i really hoped DCEU would tap in to, where their heroes, Superman a huge one in particular are for people like you and i.

Superman swoops down and rescues a cat, kid from a fire, stops a bank heist or a derailed train... what he does, his feats are what we wish we could do, if had powers. We look at real life events as kids in particular and think 'if only i could (insert supermans specific power). Batman too, has this element, Nolan tapped into it with the kid being awe struck and for batman to crack down on crime.

So when they glossed over it and either showed us the afterwards, or a reporter explaining it or just one iconic shot, you lose that emotion - think of Superman the movie, him saving lois and then catching the helicopter - that's like clark doing the shirt rip - it cutting to lex in his lair, he's chatting to ottis and then we see a news report where its a small grainy image of the helicopter being carried up. We would have never known that awesomeness.
 
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