The Avengers The Official 'Hulk in Avengers' thread. - Part 1

[Doc Samson]

You guys gotta understand there's a difference between flying and levitating. Superman & Thor could basically stay high enough where he couldn't reach them, it's not like he can jump off the planet (I don't think, hmm)

And then they would proceed to rain down any assortment of projectiles, heat vision, debris, thunder, buildings, anything. Eventually, it would have some effect.

As I stated before though, at least in Thor's case, none of that would matter because he would want the challenge of standing toe to toe. As we all know, the Hulk is the strongest one there is, so just brute strength is no contest. But he's also not a god/warrior trained in battle. Either way, I just can't wait to see it onscreen. Guaranteed, there will be a skirmish with Thor, or else it just ain't right lol

 

[storyteller]

Sad that Norton aint in it but Ruffalo just seems to fall right in with the rest of the cast at the avengers table in the trailer.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Sad that Norton aint in it but Ruffalo just seems to fall right in with the rest of the cast at the avengers table in the trailer.

Just wasn't the same for me. Felt like the odd man out.

 

[Kirmit]

You guys gotta understand there's a difference between flying and levitating. Superman & Thor could basically stay high enough where he couldn't reach them, it's not like he can jump off the planet (I don't think, hmm)

And then they would proceed to rain down any assortment of projectiles, heat vision, debris, thunder, buildings, anything. Eventually, it would have some effect.

As I stated before though, at least in Thor's case, none of that would matter because he would want the challenge of standing toe to toe. As we all know, the Hulk is the strongest one there is, so just brute strength is no contest. But he's also not a god/warrior trained in battle. Either way, I just can't wait to see it onscreen. Guaranteed, there will be a skirmish with Thor, or else it just ain't right lol

Well I'm not sure it counts but Red Hulk did jump from the Earth to the moon.

I think after WWH that Hulk is now a warrior trained in battle, he's a far more tactical and dangerous opponent now.

I think that's something everyone can agree on .

 

[Gamma Ra]

You guys gotta understand there's a difference between flying and levitating. Superman & Thor could basically stay high enough where he couldn't reach them, it's not like he can jump off the planet (I don't think, hmm)

Believe me I understand. Hulk has caught flying jets, rockets, passenger planes and other space craft in motion. Hulk's leaps are explosive and yes Hulk has and can leap into orbit.

And then they would proceed to rain down any assortment of projectiles, heat vision, debris, thunder, buildings, anything. Eventually, it would have some effect.

No it would not. Stones and rock might as well be spitballs. Hulk gets stronger as a fight prolongs, his strength and resistance to injury and healing factor goes into over drive. Hulk has been gutted and stabbed through, heart cut up and continued to battle. Throwing things at an enraged Hulk is as futile as him throwing things at someone in his strength class. Hulk has one of the best regenerating factors around and he's faced Gladiators heat vision but overcame it.

As I stated before though, at least in Thor's case, none of that would matter because he would want the challenge of standing toe to toe. As we all know, the Hulk is the strongest one there is, so just brute strength is no contest. But he's also not a god/warrior trained in battle. Either way, I just can't wait to see it onscreen. Guaranteed, there will be a skirmish with Thor, or else it just ain't right lol

Thor does have and can go into warrior madness where his strength increases significantly, but he gets as crazy as the Hulk angered.

Superman's best shot at beating Hulk is to try to knock him out before it's no longer possible for him to do it.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Superman is a giant solar battery. The only limit he'd have to his strength would be how much power he can absorb before he either tops out or it potentially kills him. Needless to say hes never had to absorb that much power to take someone down.. Hulk would be no different.

Superman is far faster, has (at least at the begining for arguments sake) a stronger starting base strength than Hulk & can fly.. these attributes alone are 3 that would have a fight end in Superman's favour quickly.. not to mention his other abilities that would also have Hulk easily disposed off.

I don't usually get involved in these sorts of convos, but considering the powers & the strength Superman has, if there physically was a real life Hulk & a real life Superman.. Superman sould win or be able to dispose of the Hulk into the depths of space easily.

Now if it was strength vs strength, who knows. Hulk is billed as having limitless strength (a term I don't like being used because every character should have their limits.. particularly a hero), but then again I feel Superman's strength limits have never been truely tested.. however I'm sure if you compared the 2's feats of strength, I'm sure Superman's feats would be more impressive than Hulk's in terms of strength.

As a fan of both characters, I can attest to this, Superman has moved planets and thrown punches at people that could crack a planet in half, closest Hulk as done was almost break off a seaboard with a step and pull a planet back together, while both of which are impressive, but Superman pushing a planet outweighs all of these IMO.

 

[redhawk23]

Silverage superman could go back in time and stop the hulk from being born.

 

[Kirmit]

As a fan of both characters, I can attest to this, Superman has moved planets and thrown punches at people that could crack a planet in half, closest Hulk as done was almost break off a seaboard with a step and pull a planet back together, while both of which are impressive, but Superman pushing a planet outweighs all of these IMO.

Didn't hulk also break an asteroid in half with one punch that was double the size of earth?

 

[Gamma Ra]

As a fan of both characters, I can attest to this, Superman has moved planets and thrown punches at people that could crack a planet in half, closest Hulk as done was almost break off a seaboard with a step and pull a planet back together, while both of which are impressive, but Superman pushing a planet outweighs all of these IMO.

Superman has done nothing of the sort since about 1985 or a little before that. The planet moving days of Superman ceased with the Crisis on Infinite Earth's stories. Superman was probably his weakest during the John Byrne run when a werewolf beat him up on the moon. Most recently over the last year, Superman could not stop a falling spaceship, Braniac's, and got hurt pretty bad trying to do so, other heroes had to come in and help him.

He's not the Silver Age planet tossing hero anymore and hasn't been for at least 25 years.

 

[Gamma Ra]

Didn't hulk also break an asteroid in half with one punch that was double the size of earth?

That's right Kirmit. Hulk's weakest incarnation, the Gray Hulk, smashed an asteroid that was estimated to be twice the size of earth with one blow.

Green Scar/Gravage Hulk jumped in lava and held the 'exploding planet' together by it's platelets.

 

[marcvader]

Can Hulk penetrate the sun?

 

[Rock Sexton]

These stories are kind of funny.

 

[Gamma Ra]

Can Hulk penetrate the sun?

What people don't factor in is Hulk can't fly, so he can't do the things that Superman does that require flight.

No Hulk has not penetrated the sun, but he has more than once took the full brunt of the Human Torch's Nova blast, which is said to be hotter than the sun.

These stories are kind of funny.

They're comic books. Comic being the key word.

 

[Gamma Burst]

Hulk's strength on his worldbreaker level is insane.

 

[Dark Raven]

That's right Kirmit. Hulk's weakest incarnation, the Gray Hulk, smashed an asteroid that was estimated to be twice the size of earth with one blow.

Green Scar/Gravage Hulk jumped in lava and held the 'exploding planet' together by it's platelets.

Is that really Hulk's weakest incarnation? It would seem the Hulk with Banner's brain that went to Secret Wars is the weakest. He over-thought things and although he had the potential to be stronger, he kept getting trashed by others (eg Galactus's cat).

 

[ArtTeacher]

As a fan of both characters, I can attest to this, Superman has moved planets and thrown punches at people that could crack a planet in half, closest Hulk as done was almost break off a seaboard with a step and pull a planet back together, while both of which are impressive, but Superman pushing a planet outweighs all of these IMO.

That is a feat of flight, not strength.

If Superman couldn't fly, he couldn't move a planet.

If you tripled Superman's strength, but took away his flight, he still couldn't move a planet.

What this has to do with the Hulk being in The Avengers, I'll never know.

 

[Gamma Ra]

Hulk's strength on his worldbreaker level is insane.

Ahhhhh Yes.....YES!!! If the posters who think Superman can so easily win...REALLY understood Hulk's power.

Is that really Hulk's weakest incarnation? It would seem the Hulk with Banner's brain that went to Secret Wars is the weakest. He over-thought things and although he had the potential to be stronger, he kept getting trashed by others (eg Galactus's cat).

Good point, but I don't consider Banner-Hulk a Hulk incarnation per se. He's Banner mentally, only with Hulk's body.

That is a feat of flight, not strength.

If Superman couldn't fly, he couldn't move a planet.

If you tripled Superman's strength, but took away his flight, he still couldn't move a planet.

What this has to do with the Hulk being in The Avengers, I'll never know.

Yes....YES!!! The voice of reason on so many levels t:....now back to our regularly scheduled posting.

I think Hulk will be a great factor in the Avengers when they end up saving the day, causing them to respect him.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

You guys gotta understand there's a difference between flying and levitating. Superman & Thor could basically stay high enough where he couldn't reach them, it's not like he can jump off the planet (I don't think, hmm)
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Hulk jumped into space way back in Incredible Hulk #254

 

[Gamma Ra]

Hulk jumped into space way back in Incredible Hulk #254

That's right CaptainStacy.

 

[Obi-Ron]

well, he tried.

 

[Gamma Ra]

Savage Hulk got to orbit but the gravity pulled him back. In Planet Hulk he left from there moon to the planet Sakaar.

Red Hulk/General Ross has leaped holding Thor's hammer into space and Banner's Hulk has overpowered him.

 

[Hoblin]

If Doomsday could beat Superman...then Hulk could beat Superman.

 

[Herolee10]

In other news, even with the crappy quality for the awesome teaser, after having seen it, I'm even more curious to see as to how both Bruce Banner and the Hulk will fit onto the team for the film.

 

[Gamma Ra]

I think both Bruce and Hulk will be reluctant to join at first, but Bruce will see the possibility to use SHIELD's tech to cure himself and Hulk will see his chance to smash things.

I want to see Bruce Banner put his genius to use.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Superman has done nothing of the sort since about 1985 or a little before that. The planet moving days of Superman ceased with the Crisis on Infinite Earth's stories. Superman was probably his weakest during the John Byrne run when a werewolf beat him up on the moon. Most recently over the last year, Superman could not stop a falling spaceship, Braniac's, and got hurt pretty bad trying to do so, other heroes had to come in and help him.

He's not the Silver Age planet tossing hero anymore and hasn't been for at least 25 years.

Erm, in a VERY recent comic Superman pushed a planet, Our Worlds At War, he pushed War World into a boomtube, that was in 2003/4 I believe.

That is a feat of flight, not strength.

If Superman couldn't fly, he couldn't move a planet.

If you tripled Superman's strength, but took away his flight, he still couldn't move a planet.

What this has to do with the Hulk being in The Avengers, I'll never know.

So it didnt take any strength to push the planet? t: Come on now, he still had to push it, which is an amazing feat.

And yeah, not sure what this has to do with Hulk in Avengers either but its fun to discuss .