The Rebooted "Keep Hope Alive" (that the rights can revert back to Marvel) Thread - - - - - - - - - - Part 19

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I honestly don't know if $41/share is enough to change the board's mind on $38/share with DOJ approval. I'm not even sure it would change shareholder's mindset. That's low. I don't think Disney counters that. Comcast needs to go for broke.

It's not. Not even close. Imagine this - you've got a stock that's worth $38 today and I tell you I'll give you $41 a year from now. Would you take that deal? I wouldn't. That's less than 8%. I can probably get a better return over a year with an S&P index fund.

Now imagine I tell you maybe I'll give you $41 next year. Maybe I won't. It depends on some things that might or might not happen. You'd tell me to get the hell out.
 
Someone should make a list of every intellectual property that Disney would own.
 
For a company whose corporate symbol is Mickey Mouse, how come there hasn't been an animated movie of Mickey for years? Nor of Donald Duck, Pluto, Goofy, Minnie Mouse etc. You'd think that Disney would want to make one similar to the Peanuts movie by Fox.
Mickey Mouse does have a new cartoon series that I saw at WDW. It's actually pretty funny.

Oh, and Disney would own Peanuts now. That's Charlie Brown and Snoopy in their sandbox.
Ownership of the Peanuts is actually split between DHX Media (41%), Sony (39%), and Charles M. Schulz Creative Associates (20%).
 
There's still the step of Disney sending Comcast a statue of Mickey Mouse giving them the middle finger. :o

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A few international markets have the approve it (definitely happening), and a federal judge has to approve the settlement Disney made with the DOJ to sell off Fox's RSN's (also definitely happening).

Once those take place, then they can close the deal.

Got it- thanks! (I think I might have asked something similar before- my apologies on the chance I'm making you repeat yourself) Do we have a timetable on these other things?
 
Hope we get a big ass complete Marvel vs Capcom 4 game too lol.
 
A marvel vs capcom game without the x-men ain’t a MvC game at all

Sure hope we get it some day
 
Got it- thanks! (I think I might have asked something similar before- my apologies on the chance I'm making you repeat yourself) Do we have a timetable on these other things?
The wait really has to do with number of countries that have to review aspects of the deal. Canada, UK, EU, South Africa, India, South Korea, Philippines, and about 2x dozen others. Some move faster than others as they don't have as many items to review.

Should be done by the end of the year at the latest. Many of these want Disney to invest in their country, so they may expedite.
 
We ought to get a game of Marvel vs CapComcast. :o
 
Capcom has become quite shady over the years. A far cry of where they stood in the past.

You think so? I believe they've been redeeming themselves lately with games like Monster Hunter World and Resident Evil 7: Biohazard, announcements like the remake of Resident Evil 2, Devil May Cry 5 and Mega Man 11, and they keep supporting Street Fighter V even though it didn't meet its sales expectations.

They seem to be listening to the community, which I really appreciate.
 
You think so? I believe they've been redeeming themselves lately with games like Monster Hunter World and Resident Evil 7: Biohazard, announcements like the remake of Resident Evil 2, Devil May Cry 5 and Mega Man 11, and they keep supporting Street Fighter V even though it didn't meet its sales expectations.

They seem to be listening to the community, which I really appreciate.
Even so, they are still a shadow of where they once stood. Hopefully they'll keep heading in the right direction.
 
I'm sure somebody at Marvel Studios is already working on a 3D model of one of the two.

I know Marvel Studios is in love with mocap, but I think Doctor Doom would look better with a real suit of plate armor and cape. A CGI cape on top of another layer of CGI... I dunno.
 
I know Marvel Studios is in love with mocap, but I think Doctor Doom would look better with a real suit of plate armor and cape. A CGI cape on top of another layer of CGI... I dunno.

That is not practical at all. They already tried that with Iron Man 1. They had to still go with mo-capped shots because the stunt man or even RDJ couldn't bend into all positions with a rigid suit. It was too clunky to use and too slow and cumbersome.

Ever since that film they've always mo-capped all the armours. They're not suddenly going to switch back to that primitive method or using a real armour.
 
That is not practical at all. They already tried that with Iron Man 1. They had to still go with mo-capped shots because the stunt man or even RDJ couldn't bend into all positions with a rigid suit. It was too clunky to use and too slow and cumbersome.

I get that they're unlikely to have their prop master commission Renaissance armor for Doctor Doom, but the Iron Man armor was only slow and cumbersome because they made it that way.
 
How the Disney-Fox Deal Got DOJ’s Greenlight Quicker Than Expected

When Disney and Fox announced their deal in December, the expectation was that it would take 12 to 18 months to close, though UBS’s John Hodulik and other analysts wrote that they believed that the Disney-Fox deal could close before the end of the year.

Disney’s ability to secure approval now, however, six months after announcing the merger, could be critical as it faces another potential Comcast offer. Fox must schedule a shareholder vote to move forward with a Disney bid.

“I could see how Disney wanted to cut a deal quickly if delay meant increasing the prospects of a Comcast counter,” Hal Singer, economist at George Washington University’s Institute of Public Policy, wrote in an email.

In announcing the approval, the Justice Department noted that “to streamline agency clearance, Disney agreed to divest the 22 RSNs rather than continue with the Antitrust Division’s ongoing merger investigation.” In other words, it became clear to Disney what the Justice Department’s major concern was with the deal: Disney’s purchase of the RSNs would harm competition for sports programming in those local markets. Rather than try to challenge that contention or negotiate some kind of conditions, a process that could have taken many more months, Disney agreed to the type of structural remedy favored by the DOJ under antitrust chief Makan Delrahim.

Read more here:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/variety.com/2018/politics/news/disney-fox-merger-justice-department-1202859900/amp/
 
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How the Disney-Fox Deal Got DOJ’s Greenlight Quicker Than Expected



Read more here:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/variety.com/2018/politics/news/disney-fox-merger-justice-department-1202859900/amp/

Exactly what I said earlier. Disney agreed to divest the RSNs without a fight due to pressure from Comcast.

It'll be interesting if they can get the ~19-26B the RSNs are estimated to be worth. Al Jazeera, FAANG, Comcast, ATT, Sony, Verizon, Charter, and others might be interested in purchasing the assets. YES and Fox Sports West being the 2 main ones here and they will get paid for those, maybe overpaid even, but I'm not sure how much they can get for the rest of them.

The wait really has to do with number of countries that have to review aspects of the deal. Canada, UK, EU, South Africa, India, South Korea, Philippines, and about 2x dozen others. Some move faster than others as they don't have as many items to review.

Should be done by the end of the year at the latest. Many of these want Disney to invest in their country, so they may expedite.

Very true. India, for example because of Star, would love a DL in their country. They want to see Disney spending more dollars in their country. Barring an unexpected extremely high bid with higher regulatory protections I say 4 months from today we'll be close to seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. Iger and Murdochs will offer some more insight during the next Q meeting.
 
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Comcast Scrambles as Disney Gains New Momentum on 21st Century Fox Deal

Here’s a part I find quite interesting.

The Fox board raised concerns that Comcast’s June 13 offer only agreed to match the regulatory protections included in Disney’s initial agreement with Fox rather than offering even greater protections. Those provisions include a $2.5 billion breakup fee payable to Fox by Disney if the deal were blocked by regulators — a point that has now become moot for Disney. Comcast offered to cover the $1.52 billion fee that Fox would be obligated to pay Disney if it were to back out of the pact that was reaffirmed by the Fox board at the higher price on June 20. But the Fox board noted that with Comcast’s June 13 bid topping Disney’s initial offer, the value of the $2.5 billion breakup fee has fallen to 2.2% of the equity value of the deal, compared to 2.9% under Disney’s initial $52.4 billion bid.

A lot more here:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/variety.com/2018/biz/news/comcast-21st-century-fox-disney-bid-regional-sports-networks-1202859661/amp/
 
The new Fantastic Four uniforms for the upcoming return of the team in comics would be great for the MCU versions.

They're a modern take on the original with the colors inverted.

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I'm getting so excited I'm getting ahead of myself. I better calm down and temper expectations coz it ain't over just yet. I hope Disney gets this over with fast and that Comcast gives up already.


Reed looks a LOT like John Krasinki there. Coincidence?
 
Comcast Scrambles as Disney Gains New Momentum on 21st Century Fox Deal

Here’s a part I find quite interesting.



A lot more here:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/variety.com/2018/biz/news/comcast-21st-century-fox-disney-bid-regional-sports-networks-1202859661/amp/

To (I think) Willie's point earlier in the thread, that means Comcast will have to offer a very high premium, 85B+ but more likely 90B+ and a much higher regulatory protection. ~4-5B. Possibly more things as well.

This would also increase Sky's value accordingly. Sky's 31B bid was made when the outstanding offer for Fox was 52.4B. If the deal closes at 71.3B, Sky's board can argue the value for the asset is ~42.2B. If Comcast goes higher, let's say 90B, then the board can argue the value for Sky should be 53.2B.
 
Hmm, many analysts are saying Disney has this in a bag at this point and that Comcast would be smart to take SKY and leave. Like BB said - I think thats why Disney/Fox haven't bid on Sky again. They are signaling to Comcast that they can have SKY
 
Hmm, many analysts are saying Disney has this in a bag at this point and that Comcast would be smart to take SKY and leave. Like BB said - I think thats why Disney/Fox haven't bid on Sky again. They are signaling to Comcast that they can have SKY

I think Disney has to bid on Sky if they acquire Fox's 39%.
 
To (I think) Willie's point earlier in the thread, that means Comcast will have to offer a very high premium, 85B+ but more likely 90B+ and a much higher regulatory protection. ~4-5B. Possibly more things as well.

This would also increase Sky's value accordingly. Sky's 31B bid was made when the outstanding offer for Fox was 52.4B. If the deal closes at 71.3B, Sky's board can argue the value for the asset is ~42.2B. If Comcast goes higher, let's say 90B, then the board can argue the value for Sky should be 53.2B.
Roberts is really in a bind. If he pushes the Fox piece any higher he may very well end up losing the piece he wants most. It may be weeks, if ever really, before we see what his next move. Logic would dictate he back down and focus on Sky's 61% instead, but where is the fun in logic?

Hmm, many analysts are saying Disney has this in a bag at this point and that Comcast would be smart to take SKY and leave. Like BB said - I think thats why Disney/Fox haven't bid on Sky again. They are signaling to Comcast that they can have SKY
It certainly appears that way. Continuing to fight over Fox helps nobody bidding for Sky.

I think Disney has to bid on Sky if they acquire Fox's 39%.
IIRC, Fox's bid becomes inherited by Disney if they close the Fox transaction before Sky closes. Right now, they are expecting that Fox or Disney outbid Comcast. Sky even seems to be dragging its feet to encourage a bidding war.
 
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