The Rebooted "Keep Hope Alive" (that the rights can revert back to Marvel) Thread - - - - - - - - - - - Part 20

[Willie Lumpkin]

Minor coindence to point out but both the Ant-Man director and the Mr. Fantastic both have ‘Reed’ as either their first or last names.

It's fate! (though considering what happened with Marc Webb, maybe I should be careful)

 

[Detective Conan]

Del Toro is still my dream FF director but that will never happen at this point.

 

[Endeavor]

Del Toro is still my dream FF director but that will never happen at this point.

Why wouldn't it?

 

[Spider-Fan]

Del Toro would be my dream guy for like Dr. Strange. I always pictured someone like a Steven Spielberg type model you need for an FF director. I know he would never make one, but someone in that mold would be my target.

 

[marcvader]

I like Del Toro involved with monsters and such.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Del Toro is still my dream FF director but that will never happen at this point.

That's one I've thought of. Also, I'd like to see what Peter Jackson could do.

But it's highly unlikely we'd get either of them.

 

[Detective Conan]

Why wouldn't it?

Don’t think Del Toro would ever work well with the structure of Marvel Studios. I think him working for Marvel Studios could end up similar to how things ultimately went with Edgar Wright.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Don’t think Del Toro would ever work well with the structure of Marvel Studios. I think him working for Marvel Studios could end up similar to how things ultimately went with Edgar Wright.

Yeah, I think most of the elite directors many of us could name probably wouldn't be interested in working with Marvel and vice versa.

But Marvel is beginning to cultivate it's own little group of elite directors, who weren't so elite until they had a chance to work with Marvel.

 

[Detective Conan]

Del Toro would be my dream guy for like Dr. Strange. I always pictured someone like a Steven Spielberg type model you need for an FF director. I know he would never make one, but someone in that mold would be my target.

He could good for that too, but one source of appeal for Fantastic Four for me was always the monsters/alien designs which always unique & super-creative so when I look at Del Toro’s work on the Hellboy/Blade 2 I think he could really nail that aspect of FF easily.

Just think of how crazy a Gullermo Del Toro-directed Fantastic Four film with the Moleman would be! The monster designs would be awesome!

 

[Spider-Fan]

He could good for that too, but a. If source of appeal for Fantastic Four for me was always the monsters/alien designs which always unique & super-creative so when I look at Del Toro’s work on the Hellboy/Blade 2 I think he could really nail that aspect of FF easily.

Just think of how crazy a Gullermo Del Toro-directed Fantastic Four film with the Moleman would be! The monster designs would be awesome!

GDT is one of my favorite directors, but I will say his English based or adapted properties always didn't measure to his foreign/original work. His monster designs would be top notch though, this is true. But I worry the core story would end up more like Pacific Rim (which had a plot I couldn't care less about) than Pan's Labyrinth.

But again, he is a filmmaker I adore! I have to emphasize that. I just think he is better suited for like a Dr. Strange or Swamp Thing.

 

[Smurphftw]

My general feeling is: If audiences believe people can shrink to the size of an ant or turn green and incredibly strong, or burst into flames etc. is it really too much of a stretch to believe some superheroes existed before and nobody bothered mentioning them?

I can see trying to keep things relatively neat, but when it comes to telling a story the way they want to tell it, I'm going to let them do it and not get hung up if I have to suspend disbelief on some of the timelines.

It will be interesting to see what they do with Captain Marvel. Will she be much more secretive and the Skrulls never be known by the general public? If so, okay, they're keeping with the idea that superheroes and aliens weren't well-known prior to Iron-Man.

But if she's out and proud, that pretty much smashes any barriers to the FF. In fact, they will probably have time to throw some mentions of FF into the final cut of Captain Marvel if they want to go the retro route.

I don't really consider those 2 things as an apples to apples comparison. I think there's distinct difference between suspending disbelief around comic booky technologies and magic existing, and pretending that human nature doesn't exist and potentially creating a massive plot hole/continuity issue.

If the Marvel FF movie is set in the 60's I will keep an open mind. Feige has earned the benefit of the doubt from me and then some. I just hope if they go that route, they have a VERY good explanation as to why the whole world acted like The Avengers were the first superhero team ever in history.

 

[Zarex]

If the Marvel FF movie is set in the 60's I will keep an open mind. Feige has earned the benefit of the doubt from me and then some. I just hope if they go that route, they have a VERY good explanation as to why the whole world acted like The Avengers were the first superhero team ever in history.

One reason would be that the whole world didn't consider them to be a superhero team. They were a family of adventurers.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Well, no. Right now that honor goes to Ant-Man & Wasp as oldest superhero team

 

[Detective Conan]

Well, no. Right now that honor goes to Ant-Man & Wasp as oldest superhero team

But that team are nowhere near as popular or famous in the MCU as the Fantastic Four normally are in the comics(the FF are essentially the superhero Beatles).

 

[First Avenger]

https://amp.businessinsider.com/dis...ssets-to-heat-up-2018-7?utm_source=reddit.com

 

[Spider-Fan]

But that team are nowhere near as popular or famous in the MCU as the Fantastic Four normally are in the comics(they’re the superhero Beatles).

My counter to this would be times have changed and many people grew up without a major superhero team (at least a public one). It's not like outside of minor easter eggs we saw people gush about Captain America having existed until we saw his movie. So the era we get an Avengers (who were openly being opposed by gov't institutions), the FF may have existed in a "more innocent time" and therefore there wasn't a comparison.

 

[Bach]

60's Fantastic Four could end up being a big ass love letter to the golden age of Marvel Comics with a bunch of Easter eggs and cool designs, making it look like a living comic book. That could be alright aesthetically. Maybe show Reed and them getting grants from Tony Stark's father and them working with Hank Pym as far as MCU connections.

But then it's just a rehash of the Captain America movie. MCU is repeating themselves. And if they've been up in Suspended Animation for that long without him, then Doom would be like what? 100?

I don't know.

I don't think that would be an issue. If I remember correctly, there was a version of Doctor Doom that was around 500 years old since he was originally from Middle Age. The reason of his longevity was his wizardry powers combined with his scientific knowledge.

 

[Detective Conan]

https://amp.businessinsider.com/dis...ssets-to-heat-up-2018-7?utm_source=reddit.com

“Its always the darkest before the dawn.”

 

[Spider-Fan]

I don't think that would be an issue. If I remember correctly, there was a version of Doctor Doom that was around 500 years old since he was originally from Middle Age. The reason of his longevity was his wizardry powers combined with his scientific knowledge.

Yeah, no to 500 year old wizard Doom

 

[Nardz937]

Peyton Reed made some comments about FF -if he were to do it they would be in the 60s and treated like the Beatles -and then lost in space and then fish out of the water -returning much like cap into the present day. I like the cut of his jib!

THIS is the way to introduce F4 in the MCU. It makes so much sense and has much more potential taking place in 1961 than current day.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I'm not crazy about the man out of time rehashing, though. For 60s style and aesthetics, it is cool. But I also want the MCU characters to stand out, and I do fear it may remind people too much of Captain America. We also have this kind of happening it seems with Captain Marvel, also.

 

[Crimz]

I don't see why you can't have some 60s aesthetics in the modern day. Look at Thor Ragnarok that was a big 80s inspired flick. The lost in time thing has run it's course and is boring, it wouldn't make the team feel unique.

 

[Smurphftw]

One reason would be that the whole world didn't consider them to be a superhero team. They were a family of adventurers.

That could work. Like I said I will be keeping an open mind regardless of the time period. I hope someday soon we can all start talking about an actual Marvel Studios FF that's in production instead of just always having to speculate on what they MIGHT do, if ever given the chance. Sooooon.

 

[Abudefduf]

https://amp.businessinsider.com/dis...ssets-to-heat-up-2018-7?utm_source=reddit.com

Oh for God's sake Roberts, why don't you just freaking

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Brian Roberts is the jaded ex boyfriend

Just let it go, Brian. It ain’t happening, dawg.