The Rebooted "Keep Hope Alive" (that the rights can revert back to Marvel) Thread - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 23

[Darkprime]

Wonder when Fox is gonna drop that dark phoenix teaser.

 

[Xeno]

Wonder when Fox is gonna drop that dark phoenix teaser.

Fox is probably going to wait until the last possible moment to release a trailer for DP. The reshoots are supposedly starting soon and supposedly what Kinberg has already filmed isn't up to snuff (per multiple sources). The studio will probably want to get something that's presentable from the director before trying to cobble together a teaser. There has to be enough good footage to work with first.

 

[Darkprime]

They did show a trailer at CineEurope tho.

 

[DyfeddRex]

several options for that drop date.

1: When Dormammu becomes a philanthropist who eclipses Stark.
2: When Deadpool makes it a day without cracking a joke
3: Labor Day weekend, when nerds are busy doing all the chores we put off while speculating on the merger, out of sheer boredom or threats of legal action if we don't mow the lawn.
4: The middle of the night, quietly, and only in Russian dubbed versions.
5: Dia del Meurte, 'cause the Foxmen Verse is dead.
6: Yesterday, but it was swept under the rug, being released only on MySpace.
7:Tomorrow night, with no warning, and after all the places near Fiege that sell anti-acids have closed, as given his big gulp and face at Pascal's "it's all connected" attempt on that Spider presser, this will give him heartburn.

 

[Xeno]

several options for that drop date.

1: When Dormammu becomes a philanthropist who eclipses Stark.
2: When Deadpool makes it a day without cracking a joke
3: Labor Day weekend, when nerds are busy doing all the chores we put off while speculating on the merger, out of sheer boredom or threats of legal action if we don't mow the lawn.
4: The middle of the night, quietly, and only in Russian dubbed versions.
5: Dia del Meurte, 'cause the Foxmen Verse is dead.
6: Yesterday, but it was swept under the rug, being released only on MySpace.
7:Tomorrow night, with no warning, and after all the places near Fiege that sell anti-acids have closed, as given his big gulp and face at Pascal's "it's all connected" attempt on that Spider presser, this will give him heartburn.

Fox be like:

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Fox is probably going to wait until the last possible moment to release a trailer for DP. The reshoots are supposedly starting soon and supposedly what Kinberg has already filmed isn't up to snuff (per multiple sources). The studio will probably want to get something that's presentable from the director before trying to cobble together a teaser. There has to be enough good footage to work with first.

If they're still doing reshoots that are so extensive they can't put together a 1.5 minute trailer, there's no way this film can be released in February.

Let's consider for a moment what Fox would like us to believe - no big deal, just a few reshoots to smooth out some transitions, make some narrative less ambiguous etc.

In that case, they should still have more than enough to put a trailer together. The reshoots would be less than 2% of the film, so they could construct a trailer from the rest.

I suspect the real situation is similar to Fant4stic. Fox knows they won't have a good film no matter what they do, so the reshoots are probably designed to do two things:

1. Make the film watchable.

2. Replace expensive special effects scenes with simpler scenes to cut expenses and thereby cut losses.

Remember these scenes (and others) from Fant4stic that were in the trailer but didn't make it to the film?

What most likely happened with these scenes is the money that would have had to be spent to finish the special effects for them would have made an awful film lose even more money than it already did.

So Dark Phoenix probably doesn't have a trailer because they're making drastic changes and trying to cut costs.

I would say Dark Phoenix will be another Fant4stic except for a few things:

1. Fant4stic had a director (Josh Trank) who actually had some talent. Talentless Simon Kinberg is all alone on this one.

2. Fant4stic wasn't delayed as dramatically after it started production.

3. We had already seen a trailer for Fant4stic 6 months prior to release.

So it seems possible Dark Phoenix will be worse than Fant4stic.

 

[WeaponXCII]

If they're still doing reshoots that are so extensive they can't put together a 1.5 minute trailer, there's no way this film can be released in February.

Let's consider for a moment what Fox would like us to believe - no big deal, just a few reshoots to smooth out some transitions, make some narrative less ambiguous etc.

In that case, they should still have more than enough to put a trailer together. The reshoots would be less than 2% of the film, so they could construct a trailer from the rest.

I suspect the real situation is similar to Fant4stic. Fox knows they won't have a good film no matter what they do, so the reshoots are probably designed to do two things:

1. Make the film watchable.

2. Replace expensive special effects scenes with simpler scenes to cut expenses and thereby cut losses.

Remember these scenes (and others) from Fant4stic that were in the trailer but didn't make it to the film?

What most likely happened with these scenes is the money that would have had to be spent to finish the special effects for them would have made an awful film lose even more money than it already did.

So Dark Phoenix probably doesn't have a trailer because they're making drastic changes and trying to cut costs.

I would say Dark Phoenix will be another Fant4stic except for a few things:

1. Fant4stic had a director (Josh Trank) who actually had some talent. Talentless Simon Kinberg is all alone on this one.

2. Fant4stic wasn't delayed as dramatically after it started production.

3. We had already seen a trailer for Fant4stic 6 months prior to release.

So it seems possible Dark Phoenix will be worse than Fant4stic.

I've been vacillating so much on how I want this to turn out. On one hand, if it is as egregiously bad as some are predicting, it would validate and justify a lot of discussion (i.e., complaints/worries). But on the other, negative reception is likely going to tarnish the brand, however slightly. Plus, it would probably delay the X-Men arriving in the MCU. And I need my X-Men- the real ones this time.

"Worse than Fantfourstic." (I refused to call it by its other, thinly-veiled, feigned cleverness title). I didn't think it was even possible....

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I've been vacillating so much on how I want this to turn out. On one hand, if it is as egregiously bad as some are predicting, it would validate and justify a lot of discussion (i.e., complaints/worries). But on the other, negative reception is likely going to tarnish the brand, however slightly. Plus, it would probably delay the X-Men arriving in the MCU. And I need my X-Men- the real ones this time.

"Worse than Fantfourstic." (I refused to call it by its other, thinly-veiled, feigned cleverness title). I didn't think it was even possible....

At this point, I think there's close to 0% chance it will be good, so it's really a choice of: "Run-of-the-mill Fantastic Four 2005 bad or spectacularly Fant4stic bad?"

If the concern is damage to the brand, I actually think spectacularly bad might be preferable. A spectacularly bad film will come and go very quickly and won't be seen as broadly. A run-of-the-mill bad film will be more credible and be seen by many people and serve as the legitimate follow-up to Age of Apocalypse and be accepted as part of the X-Men canon.

 

[Iceman]

The worse it is, the more effort Marvel will put into making clear that the new MCU X-Men film is totally unconnected to what came before. We'll also see extended cameos from every MCU character and it'll be called Uncanny X-Men: Homecoming: They're back:They're in the MCU now: Ignore everything else!

 

[Iceman]

several options for that drop date.

1: When Dormammu becomes a philanthropist who eclipses Stark.
2: When Deadpool makes it a day without cracking a joke
3: Labor Day weekend, when nerds are busy doing all the chores we put off while speculating on the merger, out of sheer boredom or threats of legal action if we don't mow the lawn.
4: The middle of the night, quietly, and only in Russian dubbed versions.
5: Dia del Meurte, 'cause the Foxmen Verse is dead.
6: Yesterday, but it was swept under the rug, being released only on MySpace.
7:Tomorrow night, with no warning, and after all the places near Fiege that sell anti-acids have closed, as given his big gulp and face at Pascal's "it's all connected" attempt on that Spider presser, this will give him heartburn.

Glad to see they have so many options.

 

[Fallen]

Black Panther finally crossed the $700M mark at the domestic box office!

 

[The Sand Master]

If you don't know who Coulson is by now you've been living under a rock.

If you don't know who Venom is by now you've been living under a rock.

 

[PsylockeBlackWidow]

My question is what are those 15 countries that are required to sign off on the Disney/Fox Deal or just some of the countries so far?

 

[The Sand Master]

Which he makes literally every thread he posts in about. Derailing all discussion for those type of outlandish claims.

Nothing new there then.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Black Panther finally crossed the $700M mark at the domestic box office!

Wakanda forever.

That’s amazing.

 

[Xeno]

Black Panther finally crossed the $700M mark at the domestic box office!

Chadwick, Ryan and the whole Black Panther cast and crew deserve all the praise for creating such an amazing film. They and Marvel Studios silenced all the doubters who said that superhero films with Black leads couldn't be successful. (Never mind that Blade had already paved the way 20 years ago -- that was dismissed as a fluke.)


It's interesting that Black Panther is the only movie that Disney kept in theaters long enough to reach a specific milestone. The film has been out on home media for months now, yet it's still playing in some places.

 

[WeaponXCII]

At this point, I think there's close to 0% chance it will be good, so it's really a choice of: "Run-of-the-mill Fantastic Four 2005 bad or spectacularly Fant4stic bad?"

If the concern is damage to the brand, I actually think spectacularly bad might be preferable. A spectacularly bad film will come and go very quickly and won't be seen as broadly. A run-of-the-mill bad film will be more credible and be seen by many people and serve as the legitimate follow-up to Age of Apocalypse and be accepted as part of the X-Men canon.

I don't know... I guess I can see both perspectives. The middling reception of TASM 2 wasn't detrimental to the promptness of Spider-Man entering the MCU, but I think that's because of the rights situation. Conversely, after the negative reception of... hmm... Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance, we haven't seen either traditional iteration of the character in film since.

My question is what are those 15 countries that are required to sign off on the Disney/Fox Deal or just some of the countries so far?

I'm also really curious about this as well. Anyone have more info?

 

[Iceman]

It’s a huge achievement for Black Panther.

 

[Dark Raven]

Wonder when Fox is gonna drop that dark phoenix teaser.

I think that now that Disney have bought Fox, they're going to issue something to this effect:

“The offensive directing and writing discovered in Simon Kinberg's Dark Phoenix are indefensible and inconsistent with our studio’s values, and we have severed our business relationship with him.”

 

[Chip Chipperson]

bruh is no one gonna mention this guys abnormally large avatar

 

[Marvel united]

bruh is no one gonna mention this guys abnormally large avatar

Thought I was the only one

 

[Abudefduf]

I know, right? How did he even manage to upload such a huge avatar? I'm pretty sure it's impossible.

 

[Dark Raven]

I was just about to say that. It's a huge Darth Vader of an avatar. Like a massive death star.

Unless it's a bus driving past a big factory chimney.

 

[Detective Conan]

I thought only mods were capable of having avatars as big as that....

 

[Dark Raven]

We'll soon find someone with an avatar that is the size of the usual posting area width, and their posting area is the size of the usual avatar area.