The Rebooted "Keep Hope Alive" (that the rights can revert back to Marvel) Thread - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 24

[Lip]

What excites me about the MCU X-Men is finally seeing things done right. And I want Rogue to be done right this time. And Mystique is a part of that.

 

[Dark Raven]

Mystique should be benched for a few films. Not only is she over-exposed, she's also not an X-Man. The reboot needs to concentrate on the team instead of giving most of the attention to villains.

Agreed. Fox's Mystique was "She's cheer captain", but MCU's should be "I'm on the bleachers!"

 

[Raiden]

What excites me about the MCU X-Men is finally seeing things done right. And I want Rogue to be done right this time. And Mystique is a part of that.

Fox didn't have Carol Danver, but MCU does and there's no excuse why they can't have a comic accurate Rogue this times around. However, Rogue cannot go Binary and should only absorb some of CM's powers, like flight and super strength.

 

[Marvel united]

What excites me about the MCU X-Men is finally seeing things done right. And I want Rogue to be done right this time. And Mystique is a part of that.

I guess if they really want to avoid using Mystique again, they can just transfer her dynamic with Rogue to Irene/Destiny

 

[WereCoyote]

I guess if they really want to avoid using Mystique again, they can just transfer her dynamic with Rogue to Irene/Destiny

I see no reason to avoid using any character. Just because a different studio screwed them up is no reason to avoid using said character, if you have a great idea on how to use them.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

What excites me about the MCU X-Men is finally seeing things done right. And I want Rogue to be done right this time. And Mystique is a part of that.

Rogue is long overdue.

They could do a whole Disney + series or movie on her backstory all by herself. I just love that whole Rogue/Mystique/Nightcrawler/Destiny soap opera.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Oh and if any Marvel Studios People is lurking, please:

Shadow King and Storm for Black Panther 2! Thank me later!

 

[Marvel united]

I see no reason to avoid using any character. Just because a different studio screwed them up is no reason to avoid using said character, if you have a great idea on how to use them.

Hypothetically speaking. If Marvel wanted to pull a "Homecoming" on Mystique

 

[Dark Raven]

Rogue is long overdue.

They could do a whole Disney + series or movie on her backstory all by herself. I just love that whole Rogue/Mystique/Nightcrawler/Destiny soap opera.

Days of our Future Lives Past.

 

[WereCoyote]

Hypothetically speaking. If Marvel wanted to pull a "Homecoming" on Mystique

I'm just saying I see no reason to avoid a character just because Fox messed it up.

 

[Iceman]

Rogue is long overdue.

They could do a whole Disney + series or movie on her backstory all by herself. I just love that whole Rogue/Mystique/Nightcrawler/Destiny soap opera.

And I hope they do.

 

[Endeavor]

Simon Kinberg Wants Gambit To Happen At Disney

Why do I feel bad for Kinberg? Like, I'm not being sarcastic. I'm genuinely starting to feel bad for the guy

I don't know why, but stop it.
He doesn't deserve your pitty.
He didn't feel bad about crapping all over the F4, the X-Men, and fans' dreams.

 

[Marvel united]

Sigh

 

[Spider-Fan]

Kraven has a traveling ballet? Weird take, LOL

 

[Endeavor]

The last two pages in this thread were hilarious. I think Simon Kinberg needs to be banned from ever picking up a comic book again. Imagine if he was the Kevin Feige of the DCEU.

I don't believe he ever did pick one up.
This is the type of "fan" who reads a quick synopsis of a story on Marvel.com, glances at a wiki page, ignores most of it, and then calls himself an expert.

 

[psylockolussus]

Eh Mystique. FoX turned her into someone else but still she already appeared in seven freaking films. She can appear in two mcu films in a supporting role but thats it. We don't need her as a MAJOR female villain when most X-WOMEN are all underused in the films and haven't been MAJOR. If someone mentions Jean, well thats freaking 19 years in the making to you. That being said, there's also plenty of female X-Men villains to use other than Mystique. Marvel isn't even using Green Goblin/Doc Ock and they are gonna make Mystique a major character, please move on to other villainsm

 

[psylockolussus]

Charlize gotta be MCU Raven Darkholme.

Why suggest her for the role, when she could play Emma Frost.

 

[Marvel united]

Matthew McConaughey would be such a perfect Norman Osborn. I just wonder if he'd be willing to sign a 5-movie contractb

 

[SpiderProtector]

So is there really a chance that Sony might pull Spidey off the MCU? Based on what exactly? And for what? So they could use him in that stupid Venom franchise? They would be absolutely insane to do such a thing, not only are they going to piss off the general audience who is already loving Holland in the MCU, but they will ruin their Venom and "solo villains" movies by casting a new Spidey and saying "no more Holland in the MCU you guys, Spidey in Venom and Morbius from now on, lol". Ugh. The more I hear about Sony's "solo villains" movies the more, well, frustrated I get. That Morbius movie? Oh dear...

They better renew their contract with Marvel Studios.

 

[Frankeh]

Why suggest her for the role, when she could play Emma Frost.

Rosamund Pike has to be Emma Frost.

 

[Zarex]

So is there really a chance that Sony might pull Spidey off the MCU? Based on what exactly? And for what? So they could use him in that stupid Venom franchise? They would be absolutely insane to do such a thing, not only are they going to piss off the general audience who is already loving Holland in the MCU, but they will ruin their Venom and "solo villains" movies by casting a new Spidey and saying "no more Holland in the MCU you guys, Spidey in Venom and Morbius from now on, lol". Ugh. The more I hear about Sony's "solo villains" movies the more, well, frustrated I get. That Morbius movie? Oh dear...

They better renew their contract with Marvel Studios.

Sony could decide they want Spidey all for themselves, especially if Morbius surprises and turns into a Venom style hit. But there's just as likely a possibility that Iger and Horn don't want to keep making movies for Sony and having them keep the lion's share of the profits. With thousands of characters now available from the Fox purchase, does the Mouse want to put the time and effort into making Spider Man: Old Folks Home for Sony when they could put that time and effort into films involving the FF or the X-Men character families and retain all of those profits?

My thinking is that there will be an extension of the MCU agreement to finish the trilogy and another Spidey appearance for Marvel. Then MCU Spider-Man will be put on hiatus for as long as it takes for Sony to come back to the bargaining table.

 

[ironwez20]

I just really don’t want arad having power again. I understand if you don’t like mcu spidey but this man is responsible for driving the franchise in the grown and making him almost irrelevant. If there is another reboot I’m absolutely done. I could care less if venom is finally fighting spidey. The fact that Sony keeps letting this old lunatic push his ideas instead of just making movies like spider verse is annoying. Just sit back and make those films and give marvel live action rights. It all hinges on ffh. If that surpasses venom then spidey will stay.

 

[Darkprime]

Sony could decide they want Spidey all for themselves, especially if Morbius surprises and turns into a Venom style hit. But there's just as likely a possibility that Iger and Horn don't want to keep making movies for Sony and having them keep the lion's share of the profits. With thousands of characters now available from the Fox purchase, does the Mouse want to put the time and effort into making Spider Man: Old Folks Home for Sony when they could put that time and effort into films involving the FF or the X-Men character families and retain all of those profits?

My thinking is that there will be an extension of the MCU agreement to finish the trilogy and another Spidey appearance for Marvel. Then MCU Spider-Man will be put on hiatus for as long as it takes for Sony to come back to the bargaining table.

Especially now that Marvel has two of its biggest franchises back in X-Men & Fantastic Four Sony might be thinking well damn how are we going to compete if we dont have access to Spidey and marvel got two of its biggest franchises back.

 

[SpiderProtector]

Sony could decide they want Spidey all for themselves, especially if Morbius surprises and turns into a Venom style hit. But there's just as likely a possibility that Iger and Horn don't want to keep making movies for Sony and having them keep the lion's share of the profits. With thousands of characters now available from the Fox purchase, does the Mouse want to put the time and effort into making Spider Man: Old Folks Home for Sony when they could put that time and effort into films involving the FF or the X-Men character families and retain all of those profits?

My thinking is that there will be an extension of the MCU agreement to finish the trilogy and another Spidey appearance for Marvel. Then MCU Spider-Man will be put on hiatus for as long as it takes for Sony to come back to the bargaining table.

Yeah I'm hoping that's the case. But I would still hate to see ANOTHER reboot of Spider-Man, especially if it's done by Sony. Unless they hire a talented director and talented writers who understands the character and they themselves stay the hell away from having any sort of input.

I have my issues with MCU Spidey, but I rather he sticks with Feige for a while longer, there's always room for improvement.

 

[Marvel united]

‘Avengers: Endgame’ China Release Set On April 24; $800M+ WW Opening In Sight?

That's- wow, that's a lot of money. Makes you wonder if X-Men can ever achieve this

 

[Iceman]

‘Avengers: Endgame’ China Release Set On April 24; $800M+ WW Opening In Sight?

That's- wow, that's a lot of money. Makes you wonder if X-Men can ever achieve this

It will be nice to get over the one billion mark to start with. Once the MCU-X verse has the depth that allows a tale like IW to be told efficiently with so many characters involved, and in a comparable timeframe, anything could happen. It's not like these $2b numbers for the MCU were predictable after Iron Man and TIH. Even BP and CM weren't predictable directly before release, and even despite all the MCU's box office success to that point. If they get it right over the next 10-12 years, all bets are off.