The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Scene Gwen Stacey Died - Part 2

[Picard Sisko]

Why would they kill Harry in the same movie he is being introduced in?

 

[JOE]

Same reason they kill anyone in the first movie they're introduced? They served their purpose and it benefits the plot?

 

[Picard Sisko]

Same reason they kill anyone in the first movie they're introduced? They served their purpose and it benefits the plot?

Except this is Harry Osborn we're talking about. He shouldn't be killed off so soon only after one movie. Plus, I really doubt Peter would scream like that over the death of Harry. That's a face reserved for Gwen:

 

[JOE]

It just seems like they're building it up too much and giving it a lot of attention. Like they want us to believe she's going to die, I still think it's going to be a fake-out. Otherwise they spoiled the climax months before it even came out.

 

[Picard Sisko]

The only ones who will pick up on it are us fans. You show the average person the trailers and they still wouldn't guess that Gwen is going to die. She appears to be the "damsel in distress," and Spider-Man is probably going to save her.

 

[Nicko-Ray]

^ Sony has done it before. A lot of movies do that actually.

 

[JOE]

The only ones who will pick up on it are us fans. You show the average person the trailers and they still wouldn't guess that Gwen is going to die. She appears to be the "damsel in distress," and Spider-Man is probably going to save her.

Watch the SuperBowl to find out Gwen's fate? C'mon, the GA knows what's going on.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Watch the SuperBowl to find out Gwen's fate? C'mon, the GA knows what's going on.

The Super Bowl spot ended with Spider-Man catching her, so it gave the illusion that she survives.

 

[universeman]

I think this is what happens.

Spoiler

Yep that`s what`s going to happen !!!! LOL

 

[fuflipflops]

so much of the GA still calls emma mj, they don't have a clue about gwen's fate. what they're showing us is no different than an iron man trailer with tony saying "i have to keep you safe" to pepper and then cut to a few shots of her in danger. no one expects the love interest to die.

 

[SpeterMan3]

I really don't think the GA knows. We know, so we assume these things are obvious. But to the GA, it's just another damsel in distress situation.

 

[Picard Sisko]

so much of the GA still calls emma mj, they don't have a clue about gwen's fate. what they're showing us is no different than an iron man trailer with tony saying "i have to keep you safe" to pepper and then cut to a few shots of her in danger. no one expects the love interest to die.

You got it. The only popular comic book film that I can think of where the love interest dies is TDK, otherwise the "damsel in distress" tends to get saved. Also looking back at just Spider-Man films, Mary Jane was kidnapped and "almost killed" in all three Raimi films. I think people are used to that by now, so Gwen's death will break the formula a bit as far as Spider-Man films go.

 

[Picard Sisko]

If they do a fake-out in TASM2, her death won't mean as much in TASM3. So if Gwen survives this film, its going to go in two possible directions:

1. Gwen dies in TASM3 and might feel cheapened.
2. Gwen survives TASM3 as well and never actually gets killed.

 

[Nicko-Ray]

so much of the GA still calls emma mj, they don't have a clue about gwen's fate. what they're showing us is no different than an iron man trailer with tony saying "i have to keep you safe" to pepper and then cut to a few shots of her in danger. no one expects the love interest to die.

You got it. The only popular comic book film that I can think of where the love interest dies is TDK, otherwise the "damsel in distress" tends to get saved. Also looking back at just Spider-Man films, Mary Jane was kidnapped and "almost killed" in all three Raimi films. I think people are used to that by now, so Gwen's death will break the formula a bit as far as Spider-Man films go.

Both of these. Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I still LOL when I hear people say, "blonde Mary Jane."

 

[JOE]

The Super Bowl spot ended with Spider-Man catching her, so it gave the illusion that she survives.

They're not going to kill her in the trailer lol? I'm just saying they're putting a lot of emphasis on that scene.

 

[Picard Sisko]

They're not going to kill her in the trailer lol? I'm just saying they're putting a lot of emphasis on that scene.

That still doesn't determine anything. Honestly, we're just going to have to agree to disagree at this point because none of this matters. What DOES matter is what we see when watching the actual film.

 

[JOE]

That still doesn't determine anything. Honestly, we're just going to have to agree to disagree at this point because none of this matters. What DOES matter is what we see when watching the actual film.

Exactly. The only thing that matters is that we're getting a new Godzilla trailer today at 10 a.m PST. Cranston is going to be brilliant in that movie, I can feel it.

 

[chucksandstorm]

I reckon Harry tries to kill her but fails. Norman will step up to the plate in the third movie and finish what his son couldn't

 

[Morbius]

I still LOL when I hear people say, "blonde Mary Jane."

I get this from my co-workers fairly often when I mention the reboot

 

[JOE]

I reckon Harry tries to kill her but fails. Norman will step up to the plate in the third movie and finish what his son couldn't

Welcome to the Hype! Hope you're right.

 

[Airnick]

I reckon Harry tries to kill her but fails. Norman will step up to the plate in the third movie and finish what his son couldn't

Welcome to the hype! Hope your wrong.

 

[sl500jazz]

I reckon Harry tries to kill her but fails. Norman will step up to the plate in the third movie and finish what his son couldn't

Welcome!

If things were to happen this way, it would contribute to the idea that Harry is nothing but a disappointment in the eyes of his father and would give Norman motivation for becoming the Goblin in TASM3. Anyway, there has been a lot of emphasis placed on that scene from the tower so I'm still skeptical as to whether or not she'll actually bite the dust in this one. Truth be told, I would prefer that Gwen didn't die this early or under these circumstances, but if it's done well, I really can't complain.

 

[DigificWriter]

None of what you said amounts to a "gigantic and costly misinformation campaign." Stars making leading comments costs exactly zero dollars for the studio. Stars do that all the time, sometimes under contract. Cumberbatch couldn't reveal that he was Kahn, so he openly lied about it. Liam Neeson did for BB, and the same happened with Talia in TDKR.

And it's not like they shot the footage we're seeing isn't going to be used. All I'm suggesting is that they don't have Gwen die during the climatic battle with Harry. And, again, it does serve a purpose. It throws fans like us, who know Gwen's fate, for a bit of a loop. If they're following in SSM's footsteps, they would then start doing things to make us think Gwen might actually not die in this series, (maybe have Peter propose to her) only to kill her in one of the following movies when we don't expect it.

What would the point of that be? To retain the same element of surprise for the fans who expect Gwen to die that the original fans reading the original comic had over thirty years ago.

But going back to the original point, what they've done isn't costly or complicated in the least. It's no more costly or complicated than the number of films that have hidden a certain aspect of their film from the general public in the past.

You're completely missing the point here:

Everything that Marc, Emma, and others have done has been transparently and blatantly pointing at Gwen's death, stretching all the way back to shortly after the premiere of TASM1.

They have not in any way, shape, or form been trying to hide or obfuscate the eventuality of Gwen's death, so for them to go 'just kidding, we're not killing her' would in fact amount to a costly and superfluous waste of time, energy, and resources.

This is not even remotely the same kind of thing as lying or being coy about a plot point or a certain character's identity.

 

[sl500jazz]

If they do a fake-out in TASM2, her death won't mean as much in TASM3. So if Gwen survives this film, its going to go in two possible directions:

1. Gwen dies in TASM3 and might feel cheapened.
2. Gwen survives TASM3 as well and never actually gets killed.

Well, if you're trying arguing that the GA is absolutely clueless regarding to Gwen's death, then it wouldn't feel cheapened to them. Whether it happens in TASM2 or in TASM3, they'd have absolutely no idea, and Gwen surviving the clocktower incident of TASM2 would just reinforce their idea of the 'damsel in distress' always being saved.