The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR Batsuit Discussion Thread

[Swagger]

 

[Rockerartist]

The one with a bandana across his mouth actually looks REALLY badass.

 

[Rockerartist]

I also had an idea reading through everyone's idea of what the new suit should look like.
Imagine its a image of Batman in the TDK suit, but its completely destroyed with bits of the armor still attached to him. He's completely banged up and bloody, and looks Broken. Imagine if that was the first image we got? How badass would that be...and already that'd be a great indicator we would get a new suit to replace TDK suit's flaws and vulnerabilities

 

[Ponco_87]

better yet, how about this, For the final suit in the third act, Bruce had lost all access to the batcave, because it's surrounded by the police, Alfred is in custody, Bruce has only the battle ravaged suit of the begins and TDK suit, than he combines them, sew them, get rid of the jigsaw legs, the mask had a slight slit opening in the mouth area, he put the begins suit underneath, than the chain mail material in the outside, slap the begins emblem in the front, putting a police pouch belt that he gets by ripping them from a battle with the swat confrontation, then all of the gadgets are all practical low-tech guerrilla stuff. And Voila, Peace on earth, Middle east crisis solved, Poverty banish from the face of the earth. t:t:t:t:

 

[Pagan]

while I like the aesthetic of the neck brace/collar (it makes the egg shaped head thing go away ) how in the world would you look up?

 

[regwec]

I'm not sure that a plate armoured neck can be closely fitted and flexible. Solutions in the Ancient world were either oversized helmets that covered the neck (Greek hoplites), fan-like neck guards (Roman legionaries, iron age Celtic warriors), or chainmail (Assyrians, Persians etc). The same solutions are seen in the progression of medieval armour; the Saxons, Franks, Normans and Vikings covered the neck with a mail coif; from the late twelfth century oversized "great helms" that covered the whole head and neck were back in vogue; and in the late middle ages the sallet was a popular type of helmet that had a fan-like neck guard just like a Roman legionary's.

At various times armoured warriors have used a rigid "gorget" neck piece, but that would seem to prevent much movement.

I think the best solution might be to avoid depicting Batman's neck as being armoured.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

Very informative post reg. I think the best idea would be to step away from the 'armour' idea completely. Though I don't see the third movie removing the rubber-suit aesthetic. Maybe we will get a rubber-suit but it won't be designed to look like an armour and more like a second skin?

Frankly speaking (pun not intended), those designs are terrible.

 

[Saint]

I'm not sure that a plate armoured neck can be closely fitted and flexible. Solutions in the Ancient world were either oversized helmets that covered the neck (Greek hoplites), fan-like neck guards (Roman legionaries, iron age Celtic warriors), or chainmail (Assyrians, Persians etc). The same solutions are seen in the progression of medieval armour; the Saxons, Franks, Normans and Vikings covered the neck with a mail coif; from the late twelfth century oversized "great helms" that covered the whole head and neck were back in vogue; and in the late middle ages the sallet was a popular type of helmet that had a fan-like neck guard just like a Roman legionary's.

At various times armoured warriors have used a rigid "gorget" neck piece, but that would seem to prevent much movement.

I think the best solution might be to avoid depicting Batman's neck as being armoured.

Fan-like?

 

[Godzilla2014]

I'm not sure that a plate armoured neck can be closely fitted and flexible. Solutions in the Ancient world were either oversized helmets that covered the neck (Greek hoplites), fan-like neck guards (Roman legionaries, iron age Celtic warriors), or chainmail (Assyrians, Persians etc). The same solutions are seen in the progression of medieval armour; the Saxons, Franks, Normans and Vikings covered the neck with a mail coif; from the late twelfth century oversized "great helms" that covered the whole head and neck were back in vogue; and in the late middle ages the sallet was a popular type of helmet that had a fan-like neck guard just like a Roman legionary's.

At various times armoured warriors have used a rigid "gorget" neck piece, but that would seem to prevent much movement.

I think the best solution might be to avoid depicting Batman's neck as being armoured.

Batman's neck needs to be armored so that he can't just be strangled or what have you.

 

[Paste Pot Pete]

Or we could just use...

the wonderous magic of our imaginations!!!

 

[BatScot]

Batman's neck needs to be armored so that he can't just be strangled or what have you.

Well hell, if someone got so close as to put both hands around his neck then strangling becomes a second option at best... the better option would be to put a gun in Batman's mouth at this point and pull the trigger. Game over... though at least Batman would make for a clean corpse since the exit wound and what not would be contained within the "armored" cowl/neck. Seriously, some of you take this head-to-toe armor thing way too far.

 

[brett66]

^ exactly.

I don't know why the heavily armored look appeals to people.

 

[Godzilla2014]

^ exactly.

I don't know why the heavily armored look appeals to people.

Because Gotham is a dangerous place to fight crime in, and Batman should be prepared for that. I think prefer the armor to the muscle suit look for Batman.

 

[brett66]

He could be wearing spandex, it doesn't matter. Audiences know nothing permanent and truly life threatening is going to happen to Batman. So adding a bunch of armor really accomplishes nothing except to make him look like a jumbled mess, and not really all that similar to his comic book counterpart. I think the Dark Knight suit was fine in dim lighting and hope don't they take it (plated look) any further than that.

 

[JAK®]

Batman's neck needs to be armored so that he can't just be strangled or what have you.

Maybe Bruce Wayne should just give up this crimefighting lark, it just sounds too dangerous.

 

[craigdbfan]

We wouldn't want things getting too easy now, won't we?

 

[Nave 'Torment']

Or we could just use...

the wonderous magic of our imaginations!!!

 

[Nave 'Torment']

I don't know why the heavily armored look appeals to people.

Batman's gadgetry, the idea that he's human (and thus needs a 'viable costume'), heck even the notion in TDK that he's a "knight" supported that look. Though I'm not saying we need the armour look for TDKR, I'm not disappointed that we had it in TDK.

He could be wearing spandex, it doesn't matter. Audiences know nothing permanent and truly life threatening is going to happen to Batman. So adding a bunch of armor really accomplishes nothing except to make him look like a ....... BAD-ASS

Fixed

Maybe Bruce Wayne should just give up this crimefighting lark, it just sounds too dangerous.

The specialists, and Vicky Vale, will probably agree but you know how vigilantism is... you don't do it, it does you. Wait, that just sounded kinky.

 

[meee]

Might be interesting if the new suit had some ideas from the MGS Grey Fox design

 

[Nave 'Torment']

NO! Too much of that going on in TDK. Half the time when he was talking to Fox over the com-link I kept thinking "THIS IS SNAKE! CAN YOU HEAR ME?"

No more super-soldier stuff!

 

[craigdbfan]

I loved that.

Just way to awesome. Loved when Alfred and Fox helped him.

Then again I'm a total MGS fanboy so there's that.

 

[HUMANIMAL]

isnt it like he needs a more armored suit now that he has to fight against bane? i just wonder how its going to help to be more ressistant against attacks but not being so fast anymore.... im also wondering how bane is going to look and how he fights ...will he have weapons, a combat suit with armory?
will it be a iron man vs war machine fight? just who has the better suit?
i doubt that...but i dont know how its going to work either...
armored suit and gadgest like batarangs against bare hands on venom?

 

[Nave 'Torment']

It's more like who has the better resilience at this point, not better suit, costume, or persona. I'd rather the two paired off sans costumes/drugs at some point.

You're forgetting the greater evil: Selina Kyle. You can't chase a cat in a rocket-ship. (No matter how much you contend to not build it, Ben.)

As for MGS, yeah I'm a big MGS fan, but theres more to Batman than just the armoured super-soldier suit (costume-wise), more so than the gadgets, he's a symbol. I'd like that to be focused on in terms of design.

 

[craigdbfan]

You know I have to say I really like the more beast like neck/spine area than what they went with in TDK.

I wouldn't mind if thats what we got in TDKR only with maybe a lighter gray armor and a more prominent bat insignia.

For me that'd be enough.

 

[BatmanReborn]

They could go with the Halo inspired design:

If the cape came over the front comics style I would honestly be down with that. Its a great way to make the grey realistic for nolan, its urban camo.

Whats funny is I find that better than TDK suit simply because the legs are not as busy. TDK legs look like a puzzle missing a few pieces.