The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR Box Office Thread III

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Update from Deadline:

The Dark Knight Rises (Legendary/Warner Bros) NEW [4,404 Theaters]

Friday $77.2M

Saturday $46.2M

Sunday projected estimate $40M

Weekend approx $163M

 
Not bad, but the incident definitely hurt it. Hopefully it can make some of it up next weekend.
 
Not bad, but the incident definitely hurt it. Hopefully it can make some of it up next weekend.
As this becomes old news, let's say after the funerals, people are just going to go on with lives.
Oh, sure, it'll be mentioned. They'll be reminders.
But this was nothing in the scale of 9/11 or something like that. So it'll die down soon.
 
Come on man this makes no sense at all and is very irresponsible. That guy was such a freak he probably would have done the same thing at a harry potter premiere had it been the next big one.

The guy started flunking out of school in mid may and started buying guns soon after. He knew TDKR would be the 1st perfect opportunity to pick a lot of people off. There is no connection to the films content none. Your comment just fuels fire for the media.

I'm not saying the movie made him do it. Millions of people saw the Dark Knight and lead perfectly normal lives. However for one person who exhibits anti-social behavior and views these movies not as entertainment, but makes a twisted connection to them, not because he was influenced, but because he's mentally ill.

Second of all I was responding to what someone else wrote about these possibly being the last dark batman films.

It is well documented what happened after Batman Returns and Tim Brutons uber dark, violent and at times perverse twist on Penguin, Catwoman and Batman. WB went and turned the franchise over to Schumaker for a more "family friendly" Batman.

I'm only saying that they will likely do the same approach here, and you probably won't see much Frank Miller style Batman films in the near future.

Don't twist my words.
 
I highly doubt that, given now their biggest successes did not feature Robin. WB aren't dull enough to move away from a method that has worked well for them, that's why Man Of Steel looks like Superman Begins based on that teaser alone. I think this will certainly hurt a little at the box office this weekend just because people love to be paranoid, but reviews are positive in the majority and there's still home media sales for Christmas around the corner, as well as the inevitable trilogy box set.

No one stopped going to school after Columbine, no one stops going into banks because of gun-point bank robberies so why should people stop going to movie theaters? It's just ridiculous in and of itself that people associate this movie as the reason they may or may not be shot because of this madman's tirade. During the subway attacks in Europe, I didn't freak out anytime I stepped into one. It's a rare occurrence.

Again, go read the history of what happened in response to Batman Returns and the backlash. Go watch Movie Bob's "Batman Revisitied" video blogs that talk about what happened with this:

http://moviebob.blogspot.com/2012/07/big-picture-batman-revisited-part-iii.html

I agree, people will go back to the theater, and I've never said otherwise. How corporate execs react to unprecedented situations is another matter entirely. WB were already starting initial plans for what to do with Batman next before the shooting ever occured. The tragedy, will likely play a roll in that change of direction.
 
His crimes were not inspired by TDKR in particular. Dark superhero movies did not drive this man to kill people. A depraved mind did.
Yeah, a significant percentage of the developed world's population have by now seen TDK and it allegedly inspires one copycat incident years later. If there is any cause and effect going on here it is about as weak as it gets. Maniacs are maniacs. If TDKR didn't come out it's not as if this dude would have been a nice guy who wouldn't have hurt a fly for the rest of his life. Some people are time bombs and if you don't get to them early enough there will be trouble at some stage. It doesn't mean the 99.99999999% of good people around the world who enjoyed the film should be denied from their leisure activities.
 
Darkness + fantasy is fine

But Darkness + realism = a tiny bit chance for a mental going to mimic it.

Avatar is fantasy and made people feel suicidal. There were various reports of this at the time. It gave unhealthy people an outlet to express their depression. Fox is making a sequel because it made over 2 billion. What about dark dramas? Plenty of films in the past have inspired copycat violence and crimes. Natural Born Killers comes to mind. Those type of films are still being made. Look at HBO and Showtime. Dexter inspired copycat killings. Violence is everywhere in all forms of media. I personally think a lot of it is gratuitous and reject it myself. But the fact remains that the majority of people (well-adjusted people) who engage in darker material don't lapse into insanity.
 
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I doubt that had anything to do with it. Blame falls on the gunman, and the gunman alone.

I agree somewhat. 'The Dark Knight' obviously created a spark in this individual and inspired him nonetheless giving him a push into action. He called himself 'The Joker' for crying out loud... Do you see a connection yet?

Further, movies do inspire people. So does music, athletes, political figures, a wide variety of fictional characters. These movies are very dark, very personal and although it is imaginative, this James Holmes is a real life murdering psychopath. Violence in movies, TV shows, video games; a line needs to be drawn to the point where its too much. I know these things are a way to distance oneself from what is real and what is imagined but NONE of these things should ever inspire someone to do evil but that is the price we pay for having freewill and the power of choice.

Yes, the blame falls solely on this killer because he made his choice but I will not deny that it is possible a movie such as 'The Dark Knight' and a psychotic character such as 'The Joker' can cause someone to aspire to commit such diabolical acts.
 
I'm not saying the movie made him do it. Millions of people saw the Dark Knight and lead perfectly normal lives. However for one person who exhibits anti-social behavior and views these movies not as entertainment, but makes a twisted connection to them, not because he was influenced, but because he's mentally ill.

Second of all I was responding to what someone else wrote about these possibly being the last dark batman films.

It is well documented what happened after Batman Returns and Tim Brutons uber dark, violent and at times perverse twist on Penguin, Catwoman and Batman. WB went and turned the franchise over to Schumaker for a more "family friendly" Batman.

I'm only saying that they will likely do the same approach here, and you probably won't see much Frank Miller style Batman films in the near future.

Don't twist my words.
I'd expect the next Batman to be less intense than TDK and maybe less realistic and more comic booky but nothing like Schumacher's work. I hope!
 
More comic-booky like Avengers? Maybe. Batman's dark, he's a dark character, everything about him is dark so every movie should be. WB learned their lesson from 1997 and it took them 6-7 years to finally get things up and running again. I highly doubt they'd run their highest grossing superhero franchise into the ground, yet again. Not with Avengers on the loose and getting all that money, there's no way they'd risk it. It'd be financially stupid on their part.

Again, go read the history of what happened in response to Batman Returns and the backlash. Go watch Movie Bob's "Batman Revisitied" video blogs that talk about what happened with this

I'm well aware of the history, which is why I stand by my belief they wouldn't dare try anything so risky again. They missed killing that franchise by 1%. Batman may as well been laying in a hospital bed and seeing the white light at that point and they were lucky enough they brought it back to life. I'm sure we'll see something completely different from Nolan's movies, but that big of a change? I highly doubt it.
 
I'm not saying the movie made him do it. Millions of people saw the Dark Knight and lead perfectly normal lives. However for one person who exhibits anti-social behavior and views these movies not as entertainment, but makes a twisted connection to them, not because he was influenced, but because he's mentally ill.

Second of all I was responding to what someone else wrote about these possibly being the last dark batman films.

It is well documented what happened after Batman Returns and Tim Brutons uber dark, violent and at times perverse twist on Penguin, Catwoman and Batman. WB went and turned the franchise over to Schumaker for a more "family friendly" Batman.

I'm only saying that they will likely do the same approach here, and you probably won't see much Frank Miller style Batman films in the near future.

Don't twist my words.

But there's no proof of that at all relating to this guy! Did you not read my post you quoted he was just looking for the next easy target and happened to be batman. The content had nothing i repeat nothing to do with his motivation.

Do you know that the guy who shot john lennon did so because of catcher in the rye? the guy who shot at reagan did so because he wanted to date a teenaged jodie foster? Insane people can find any reason to justify their insanity.

Now the reason they switched to schumacher was Returns made less than Batman and probably more importantly parents staged a boycott of mcdonalds to ban the returns happy meal toys.

None of these scenarios are occurring with this set of batman films.
 
I said that I bet that they would want to put Robin in it. I never said they would go back to 1997.

Yes I think they will go in a more "Marvel", "comic book" type direction.

I brought up the reaction to Batman Returns because there was a major change of direction after that.
 
But there's no proof of that at all relating to this guy! Did you not read my post you quoted he was just looking for the next easy target and happened to be batman. The content had nothing i repeat nothing to do with his motivation.

Do you know that the guy who shot john lennon did so because of catcher in the rye? the guy who shot at reagan did so because he wanted to date a teenaged jodie foster? Insane people can find any reason to justify their insanity.

Now the reason they switched to schumacher was Returns made less than Batman and probably more importantly parents staged a boycott of mcdonalds to ban the returns happy meal toys.

None of these scenarios are occurring with this set of batman films.

Calm down, you are putting words in my mouth. You are way off base with your accusations of what I said.
 
Calm down, you are putting words in my mouth. You are way off base with your accusations of what I said.

I just think you're being over reactive with your predictions. I explained the differences between the returns scenario and this current franchise.

Ok so tell me where i was off base? because i feel like i responded appropriately to your bolded comment.
 
I said that I bet that they would want to put Robin in it. I never said they would go back to 1997.

Yes I think they will go in a more "Marvel", "comic book" type direction.

I brought up the reaction to Batman Returns because there was a major change of direction after that.

As long as Robin more or less resembles the attitude and performance of JGL (i.e. NOT Chris O'Donnell and more in line with current comic lines) then I'd be for it. But I'd swear, if there was even a hint of anything 60s/90s, WB would lose me so fast it'd make their head spin. lol
 
I think what makes Nolan's Batman dark is the realism. It hits home and has too many realistic parallels to things we've experienced in real life. 9/11, serial killers, terrorism, crime, etc. I hope the next Batman film is geared more towards the comic. Lets see different villains, a detective version of Batman but Batman & Robin again? God, no!
 
I think what makes Nolan's Batman dark is the realism. It hits home and has too many realistic parallels to things we've experienced in real life. 9/11, serial killers, terrorism, crime, etc. I hope the next Batman film is geared more towards the comic. Lets see different villains, a detective version of Batman but Batman & Robin again? God, no!

I agree. I think a fantastic approach would be the Detective elements of Batman, keeping it dark-ish but not as gritty as Nolan's franchise, but with little tastes of Iron Man type reality here and there. That way you can have your Two-Face's, Riddler's, Joker's, Harley Quinn's and still have the Batman/comic-booky feel.
 
Update from Deadline:

The Dark Knight Rises (Legendary/Warner Bros) NEW [4,404 Theaters]

Friday $77.2M

Saturday $46.2M

Sunday projected estimate $40M

Weekend approx $163M


I'm hearing $170 Mil now. The Saturday drop looks to be less than 40% which is what I've been projecting all along for it to have a shot at TA OW record but a 30-35% drop is being expected. I thought it would drop way less than that. Just goes to show you that not a lot of people want to go to the theaters on Saturday and Sunday...
 
This has nothing to do with the movie, it could have just as easily have been an Avengers or Twilight or Harry Potter screening.
 
As a fan of box office tracking this is just quite sad to see. Sounds kind of ridiculous for a movie that's gonna open this high.
 
This week shows there's more important things than money. What's sad and disgracful is I saw on some other website 'fans' gloating how they were glad this horrific event prevented Rises from claiming the record. :(
 
I just enjoy seeing movies go on good runs: TDK, TA, Avatar etc. This movie certainly had the potential but maybe not so anymore.
 
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