The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread (NOT A LOUNGE) - - Part 57

[Tacit Ronin]

Joker is just an explosive, charismatic character. He seems to be in more than he really is.

 

[batbax]

Nicholson's Joker only had 5 min more screen time than Batman, and most people acted like he had about 30 min more.

Ya everyone I talk to about b89 insists the Joker is In it like an hour more than batman. Just not true

 

[Nevincer]

I'm pretty much on the same boat.

Agreed.

I really don't care for the technicalities, BB gave us a personalized journey with Bruce... you were right in his psyche and almost everything occuring happened through him. TDK divorced many viewers from this feeling, and I hope it returns for our sake.

 

[Travesty]

Agreed.

I really don't care for the technicalities, BB gave us a personalized journey with Bruce... you were right in his psyche and almost everything occuring happened through him. TDK divorced many viewers from this feeling, and I hope it returns for our sake.

 

[Sharkboy]

Agreed.

I really don't care for the technicalities, BB gave us a personalized journey with Bruce... you were right in his psyche and almost everything occuring happened through him. TDK divorced many viewers from this feeling, and I hope it returns for our sake.

And that is exactly it, technicalities, Keaton's batman may be on screen longer in b89, that still means he was pretty much secondary to Nicolson's Joker, Wheras Batman was always front and center in BB. It's always what is done with the time they are given on screen not how much time.

 

[The_Fire_Rises]

FWIW:



http://www.thereplicapropforum.com/f47/i-am-thug-magnus-rex-131512/#post1986212

There were also costumes marked "Sewer thugs" back during the England phase of the production, IIRC.

This kind of seems to close the door on the sewer vs. cave topic...yet the discussion has gone on for three more pages...

What about that bit in the prologue where Bane hits the button on what I believe is a detonator of some sort? It looks to me like he's in the same place as in the picture and video of the first fight.

 

[Travesty]

And that is exactly it, technicalities, Keaton's batman may be on screen longer in b89, that still means he was pretty much secondary to Nicolson's Joker, Wheras Batman was always front and center in BB. It's always what is done with the time they are given on screen not how much time.

Well, you're comparing a non-Joker movie, to one with Joker in it. I think the same can be said about TDK, in that The Joker overshadowed Batman, too.

 

[lordofthenerds]

Well, you're comparing a non-Joker movie, to one with Joker in it. I think the same can be said about TDK, in that The Joker overshadowed Batman, too.

The funny part is in TDK the Joker overshadowed Batman with less screen time. Not that that's a bad thing, it just says something about the character and Ledger's performance.

 

[Travesty]

The funny part is in TDK the Joker overshadowed Batman with less screen time. Not that that's a bad thing, it just says something about the character and Ledger's performance.

Perhaps, I don't know how much screen time Ledger had, as I've never recorded that, but I may one day.

Or do you mean Batman's screen time?

 

[lordofthenerds]

Perhaps, I don't know how much screen time Ledger had, as I've never recorded that, but I may one day.

Or do you mean Batman's screen time?

I've honestly never took the time to record each character's screen time either, but according to this guy Joker was only on the screen for a total of 19 minutes 32 seconds. A lot loss than most people would expect.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/5035...er+in+'The+Dark+Knight'+(2008)+**SCREENTIME**

 

[kvz5]

I really don't care for the technicalities, BB gave us a personalized journey with Bruce... you were right in his psyche and almost everything occuring happened through him. TDK divorced many viewers from this feeling, and I hope it returns for our sake.

Agreed.

I've honestly never took the time to record each character's screen time either, but according to this guy Joker was only on the screen for a total of 19 minutes 32 seconds. Which makes sense because he was only in there for 8 scenes. A lot loss than most people would expect.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/5035...er+in+'The+Dark+Knight'+(2008)+**SCREENTIME**

That sounds about right. I recall reading in an awards forum (that timed all the supporting actor winners' performances) that Heath's Joker was on for about 20 mins.

 

[kvz5]

Is it possible for the TDKR trailer to be attached at both The Avengers and Dark Shadows? I'm seeing both so it would be nice if the trailer is attached to both.

 

[Travesty]

I've honestly never took the time to record each character's screen time either, but according to this guy Joker was only on the screen for a total of 19 minutes 32 seconds. A lot loss than most people would expect.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/5035...er+in+'The+Dark+Knight'+(2008)+**SCREENTIME**

Ah, nice, he did percentages too. t:

So Batman has about 4-5 min more than The Joker in TDK. Interesting. Thanks for the link.

 

[Travesty]

Is it possible for the TDKR trailer to be attached at both The Avengers and Dark Shadows? I'm seeing both so it would be nice if the trailer is attached to both.

That's the rumors I'm hearing, so I hope. I'm definitely seeing The Avengers.

 

[Kane52630]

Is it possible for the TDKR trailer to be attached at both The Avengers and Dark Shadows? I'm seeing both so it would be nice if the trailer is attached to both.

It's going to be attached to Dark Shadows if it's attached to Avengers anyways. Dark Shadows is a WB film so you always expect trailers from the same studio/distributor.

 

[kvz5]

That's the rumors I'm hearing, so I hope. I'm definitely seeing The Avengers.

It's going to be attached to Dark Shadows if it's attached to Avengers anyways. Dark Shadows is a WB film so you always expect trailers for the same studio.

Oh that's good then. I thought maybe there was a rule that it can only be attached to one specially since the two movies are coming out just a week apart.

 

[Nevincer]

Is it possible for the TDKR trailer to be attached at both The Avengers and Dark Shadows? I'm seeing both so it would be nice if the trailer is attached to both.

I bet if I see them at any of my theatres (I go to about 5 different ones) it won't have the trailer. Freakin' UK and it's slowpoke promotion, mang. We're especially biased against anything Nolan.

 

[jmc]

I'm somewhat doubtful the trailer gonna be attached to Avengers given they generally don't release a new trailer worldwide first.

 

[MultipleJesuses]

Agreed.

I really don't care for the technicalities, BB gave us a personalized journey with Bruce... you were right in his psyche and almost everything occuring happened through him. TDK divorced many viewers from this feeling, and I hope it returns for our sake.

 

[The Joker]

They promised me this would go back to being Bruce's story so, i don't care how long he wears the cowl for I just want the focus to be his again.

The focus never left Bruce.

Ya everyone I talk to about b89 insists the Joker is In it like an hour more than batman. Just not true

It's more a case of the narrative of the story all revolves around the Joker, not Batman. We see the transformation from Jack Napier to Joker. We see the rise of the Joker. The Joker goes after Vicki Vale because he fancies her. The Joker is the one who killed Batman's parents.

The Joker infiltrates every facet of the movie. It's essentially the Joker's movie.

 

[Travesty]

It's more a case of the narrative of the story all revolves around the Joker, not Batman. We see the transformation from Jack Napier to Joker. We see the rise of the Joker. The Joker goes after Vicki Vale because he fancies her. The Joker is the one who killed Batman's parents.

The Joker infiltrates every facet of the movie. It's essentially the Joker's movie.

That's a good point.

 

[SpideyFan866]

They promised me this would go back to being Bruce's story so, i don't care how long he wears the cowl for I just want the focus to be his again.

This.


I never really liked how Bruce took a backseat to Batman and everyone else, if that makes sense.

 

[Sharkboy]

Well, you're comparing a non-Joker movie, to one with Joker in it. I think the same can be said about TDK, in that The Joker overshadowed Batman, too.

Irrelevant. Batman returns focused it's narrative on it's villains too.

Is it possible for the TDKR trailer to be attached at both The Avengers and Dark Shadows? I'm seeing both so it would be nice if the trailer is attached to both.

It will most def be attached to dark shadows, but clearly we all want it to debut earlier with the avengers. t:

 

[SpideyFan866]

Agreed.

I really don't care for the technicalities, BB gave us a personalized journey with Bruce... you were right in his psyche and almost everything occuring happened through him. TDK divorced many viewers from this feeling, and I hope it returns for our sake.

Exactly. That's why I think some feel that TDK didn't feel like a Batman film in many ways.

It just didn't focus on Bruce and Bruce as Bats enough. Everything always felt more involved with the characters around Bruce/Bats rather than him.l

 

[Fudgie]

I never really liked how Bruce took a backseat to Batman and everyone else, if that makes sense.

It doesn't since Batman is Bruce and Nolan keeps it about him. He ain't Burton and Schumacher.