The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 32

[B.A. Baracus]

The blood transfusion is to make it look like Paval died in the wreck. As for Paval himself, I think he's a scientist or something.

Ah thanks.

 

[Gianakin_]

I'm sorry for not subscribing to the logic of 'I'm more strong without the thing that's keeping me a live than with it'.

That's like saying 'Taking someone off life support will make them healthier'.

Bane's mask is keeping him from feeling pain. If it's removed, he may die from that pain, but he'll be like a wounded animal, both vulnerable ((because he's mindless) and dangerous as f**k.

 

[Ramsay Snow]

The whole point of him basing himself on a bat is because it's scary, in the shadows, and unknown.

Not to mention, visually it looks off. The Nolansuit has always looked terrible in bright lighting.

In this movie, Batman will be frightening to the criminals even in daylight. He has that reputation now.

I think that shot in the trailer with Batman in daylight - his suit looked really good. The lighting there was great so it can work.

 

[the dmg]

Y'know...you could have the greatest, most delicious piece of chocolate cake ever made...and if someone just doesn't like chocolate...they won't like it...

Exactly.

 

[TheDragonator]

Whatever.

Sorry for not believing everything will be awesome before I see it.

 

[The_Raganork]

By that logic, you're biased, too, since you automatically believe it will be good without knowing the context behind it either. Sooooo

I said over and over. What I've seen has looked good so far and it'll probably work. Clearly I'm open to the idea (as I've said) not convinced it's worked before seeing the final product.

so again Dragonator; You're wrong.

 

[Boom]

This thread:

 

[B.A. Baracus]

Again...some people just don't like chocolate.

Everyone likes chocolate, i mean its impossible not to.

 

[The_Raganork]

Whatever.

Sorry for not believing everything will be awesome before I see it.

right you just think certain things automatically suck because they don't abide by 70 years of tradition.

 

[Gianakin_]

right you just think certain things automatically suck because they don't abide by 70 years of tradition.

Oh, but that's the beauty of it. Most of them (if not all) actually do abide to that tradition!

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Dragonator, you're entitled to your opinion. No one is denying this, however, all you do in these boards is b***h, whine, complain and nitpick (on average thus far -- 75-80% of the time).

You've had a Mod discuss this with you already. If you all want to do is provoke and derail the boards, then it's better not to post anything.

 

[The_Raganork]

No one is saying the Dragonator should like it.

I'm saying he shouldn't be so quick to hate things based on a bias and a lack of information, or at least have some compelling actual reasons to dislike something other than the usual "This is my opinion" crap, otherwise he/she comes off uneducated and trollish

 

[Gianakin_]

Whatever.

Sorry for not believing everything will be awesome before I see it.

You should be sorry. For ignoring arguments presented to you by more than one posters. People give you possible explanations to your question/gripe, you just go "No, it sucks no matter what, lalala".

 

[the dmg]

By that logic, you're biased, too, since you automatically believe it will be good without knowing the context behind it either. Sooooo

The context appears to be Gotham in peril.

Ever seen a wild animal in pain? or even a small cat? I'd wager they're more dangerous then than usual.

But nice try trying to straw man the conversation to your advantage

Think the Predator after it removes it's mask.

 

[Gianakin_]

The context appears to be Gotham in peril.

(Possible) correction: Gotham's been in peril before, it's that this time it's a full scale war, a final fight, an "all bets are off" type of situation. The king (Batman) leads his men to fight. The king won't hide and be stealthy, he'll go and f**k his enemies up, along with his army.

 

[TheDragonator]

No one is saying the Dragonator should like it.

I'm saying he shouldn't be so quick to hate things based on a bias and a lack of information, or at least have some compelling actual reasons to dislike something other than the usual "This is my opinion" crap, otherwise he/she comes off uneducated and trollish

I don't have to be so quick to like things based on information, either. For example: The Wrath of the Titans trailer looks suprisingly good, but seeing it's an unneeded sequel to a bad movie, I'm not getting my hopes up too much.

 

[Yurka]

You really think that Yurka!?

Yurka probably wants this...and only this....all the time....

I do, but I understand what Nolans trying to do and I don't really have a problem with it. However if I had to pick, I would never, ever have Batman be seen in daylight or full lighting, something Burton was extremely good at. Burton just knew how to shoot iconic Batman, Nolan hasn't done that...yet.

What it boils down to I think is Nolan's Batman is just more of an everyday Batman, than an "icon". Burton's Batman had the iconic poses and shots, while Nolan's is more of the "everyday" Batman, showing him in compromising and unconventional situations. Different strokes and I understand that it's all for the story, but true Batman to me is a creature of the night. Never seen in daylight.

 

[craigdbfan]

@Dragonator

How does that example with Clash of the Titans apply at all to TDKR?

 

[The_Raganork]

I don't have to be so quick to like things based on information, either. For example: The Wrath of the Titans trailer looks suprisingly good, but seeing it's an unneeded sequel to a bad movie, I'm not getting my hopes up too much.

That's not the opposite of what you're doing.

The opposite of your doing is:

"Wow Batman looks great in the daytime and should always be in the daytime and never be in the night, because Crime happens in the day and he has to be there to stop every crime and let people see he's doing it'

 

[the dmg]

(Possible) correction: Gotham's been in peril before, it's that this time it's a full scale war, a final fight, an "all bets are off" type of situation. The king (Batman) leads his men to fight. The king won't hide and be stealthy, he'll go and f**k his enemies up, along with his army.

True. I'm saying that Batman shouldn't wait for nightfall if his city is in danger it makes no sense. Plus, there's plenty of times in the comics where Batman is not hiding in the shadows. Preference aside, like you said "all bets are off" and waiting for night would be silly.

I mean, if Bane was to exhaust Batman to the point in which he could be broken, wouldn't he do things at both day and night to accomplish this?

 

[Sharkboy]

No one is saying the Dragonator should like it.

I'm saying he shouldn't be so quick to hate things based on a bias and a lack of information, or at least have some compelling actual reasons to dislike something other than the usual "This is my opinion" crap, otherwise he/she comes off uneducated and trollish

He's become so predictable i can even take a good guess at his response to this; "don't be so quick to love things based on a lack of info". He's just another typical contrarian with nothing to add but unfounded negativity disguising it as "his right to an opinion"...It's boring and dull.

 

[B.A. Baracus]

I do, but I understand what Nolans trying to do and I don't really have a problem with it. However if I had to pick, I would never, ever have Batman be seen in daylight or full lighting, something Burton was extremely good at. Burton just knew how to shoot iconic Batman, Nolan hasn't done that.

What it boils down to I think is Nolan's Batman is just more of an everyday Batman, that an "icon". Burton's Batman had the iconic poses and shots, while Nolan's is more of the "everyday" Batman, showing him in compromising and unconventional situations. Different strokes and I understand that it's all for the story, but true Batman to me is a creature of the night. Never seen in daylight.

I could not agree with you more, Burton shot Batman beautifully. Batman belongs in shadows, in darkness. The way he is in 99% of comics, but the comics aspect gets dismissed too easily. Batman is a comic character and sadly Nolan sometimes seems a little embarassed by that, or thats how it feels, i say that loving the Nolan films, i just grew up with Burtons, so they'll always be in many ways the benchmark for me.

 

[Gianakin_]

True. I'm saying that Batman shouldn't wait for nightfall if his city is in danger it makes no sense. Plus, there's plenty of times in the comics where Batman is not hiding in the shadows. Preference aside, like you said "all bets are off" and waiting for night would be silly.

I mean, if Bane was to exhaust Batman to the point in which he could be broken, wouldn't he do things at both day and night to accomplish this?

 

[Jedm1991]

I would consider Batman at the beginning of TDK in the bank as "in full lighting", Did you complain about that?.

 

[The_Raganork]

I do, but I understand what Nolans trying to do and I don't really have a problem with it. However if I had to pick, I would never, ever have Batman be seen in daylight or full lighting, something Burton was extremely good at. Burton just knew how to shoot iconic Batman, Nolan hasn't done that...yet.

What it boils down to I think is Nolan's Batman is just more of an everyday Batman, than an "icon". Burton's Batman had the iconic poses and shots, while Nolan's is more of the "everyday" Batman, showing him in compromising and unconventional situations. Different strokes and I understand that it's all for the story, but true Batman to me is a creature of the night. Never seen in daylight.

there is the difference between a respectable poster like Yurka and an annoyance like the Dragonator.