The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - Part 156

It’s iconic. Dark knight rises added a little twist to it on its soundtrack that’s amazing as well
 
^ That's my favorite action piece in the trilogy. The last couple minutes where the pit theme comes in full gets me every time.
 
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I don’t know if anybody cares but I found this article recently and I think it’s kind of bull. Tdkr opening does have memes about it but I don’t think they overshadow it. I think it’s a small portion who meme it or even know about the meme compared to the vast majority who know it as the opening scene that was pretty awesome. There’s multiple lists on sites like watchmojo which don’t mean to much but show it’s liked cause people genuinely like it.
 
Happy anniversary rises. You’re my beloved and favorite movie ever. Like it’s been said you had almost impossible hype but you lived up to and provided an equally as good as dark knight Imo even without The magnificent heath ledger Rip.
 
Wow, 8 years. Can't believe how close it is to being a decade old. It's still a movie that probably crosses my mind in some way or another almost daily, and still see articles about it constantly (many of the them clickbait, alas). So in that sense it doesn't feel like it's that old. Still feels very present in the culture in many ways.

Cheers to a movie that had the stones to give the Batman story a proper cinematic ending, and pull it off beautifully. I'm still not sure that's something we'll ever see again.
 
TDK's was a couple of days before that. I remember both of those coming out on here, and all the hype. I feel old.
 
The Joker said:
TDK's was a couple of days before that. I remember both of those coming out on here, and all the hype. I feel old.
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I feel old too. I tell ya, these kids today....they just don't know!

There was a purity about the hype for these films that I don't feel exists anymore. We weren't spoiled like we are now. We didn't need a cinematic universe or crossovers in order for a movie to feel like a big deal. The idea of a reboot still felt like something pretty novel and exciting. Comic book movies and geek culture hadn't reached total saturation levels. In a way though TDK really helped blow the doors down on a lot of that.

I still miss those times.
 
Oh yeah. That’s not going to change though. It will always be split among the hardcore fans.
 
The Batman thread has taken a big nose dive. I stuck my head in there recently and they're all ripping each other to shreds arguing about the morality of Batman having a teenage sidekick.

They should have stuck to their TDKR slander.
 
It’s not a bad discussion, it’s only when you start arguing in absolutes that it starts to get tiresome.

Oh and Batlobster is a mod now! Where have I been!?
 
BatLobster said:
I feel old too. I tell ya, these kids today....they just don't know!

There was a purity about the hype for these films that I don't feel exists anymore. We weren't spoiled like we are now. We didn't need a cinematic universe or crossovers in order for a movie to feel like a big deal. The idea of a reboot still felt like something pretty novel and exciting. Comic book movies and geek culture hadn't reached total saturation levels. In a way though TDK really helped blow the doors down on a lot of that.

I still miss those times.
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Agreed. I was 19 when TDKR came out, and, even before that, I remember the hype for TDK very vividly. Things were much different then, and it was honestly a better time. I think the call for these big cinematic universes wasn't as big back then, and a self contained trilogy, like nolans, really showed what you can do with proper development of a character.

going back further to 2008, I think most late teens today don't really understand how much of an impact this trilogy had back in the day. When TDK was released, it was EVERYWHERE. going into my sophmore year of high school the following fall, it's all anybody talked about from teachers to students. People doing impressions of the Joker, friends dressing as him for halloween, my teacher crushing on Christian Bale. I also remember the viral marketing campaign back in 2007, though i didn't participate much in the campaign itself, I was an avid user of this forum back then. I remember the Harvey Dent campaign marketing came to my hometown haha. When the film finally came out, it exceeded any expectations I had. I still have yet to had the same experience watching a movie as I did with TDK. In my mind, it's a masterpiece in every sense.

And when TDKR released, I remember that vividly too. I was absolutely blown away by the conclusion to this trilogy, and I predicted then that there wouldn't be another CBM trilogy that could compare, and I was right (for me, at least).


Looking ahead, Matt Reeves The Batman has been looking and sounding very promising in every way, so I'm hopeful the hype train can at least somewhat replicate how it was for TDK trilogy. I haven't been as excited for a CBM since TDKR, so I'm confident Reeves will deliver something great. according to the cinematographer, Reeves knows what a challenge it is to follow something like Nolans trilogy. Reeves is an amazing director, and other than Nolan, there's nobody else I trust more with Batman right now.
 
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Those were the days. I was 19 when TDK dropped. I’d like to think I’m less confrontational now so in a way I’m enjoying myself more on the hype compared to the Rises period. But I do agree this forum felt different/special back then. Now it’s like the spoiled dial has been turned up to 11.

The Batman is the first comic book movie that has given me that butterflies in the stomach feeling since the 2011-2012 hype for TDKR. So 8 years of auto pilot as far as taking in this genre. Not that i didn’t like Joker, Logan, Winter Soldier, Birds of Prey and yes...to an extent even Man of Steel. But none of those movies brought excitement or happiness into my life like other films outside of the genre since 2012.

Hopefully this covid can cool the **** down so I can see The Batman a few times in October 2021.
 
shauner111 said:
It’s not a bad discussion, it’s only when you start arguing in absolutes that it starts to get tiresome.

Oh and Batlobster is a mod now! Where have I been!?
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Ha! It only happened a few months back. It's not something I ever would've ever thought to intentionally seek out, but since they were nice enough to ask me...I figured I've been around here enough and might as well give it a shot.

@Gothamsknight

I'm a bit older than you (I was 21 and had JUST graduated college when TDK came out), but I know what you mean. It was an absolutely an event and if you were experiencing it at the right moment in your life, nothing really compares IMO. I was too young to experience the Bat-mania of 89, but TDK is probably as close as we'll come.

The crazy thing for me is how long the hype build was. From the moment the Joker card was turned at the end of TDK, the "Batman Begins sequel" became the most anticipated film on a lot of people's radars. It was an absolute obsession, even before we knew anything about the film. I made friends that I still have to this day based on other people who were looking forward to the movie as much as I was. It was really something that brought people together. 3 agonizing years of speculation. I had finished freshman year of college when Begins came out, spent the rest of college living for this movie, and finally... here it was waiting for us, like the best graduation present ever. I'll never forget that joyous feeling of waiting in line with my buddies for that midnight IMAX screening, counting down the hours and minutes. It felt like the culmination of a journey we'd all been on together, just waiting for this one 2 1/2 hour experience, to see that epic Batman vs Joker clash on the big screen for the first time on film since 1989.

When it was over, we all went to a 24 hour diner at 3AM to have burgers and put the pieces of our brains back together. Like you said, the fact that it actually exceeded expectations made it all the more special. I think there was just a collective belief that the movie was going to deliver something next-level, and it was a great feeling to have "our faith rewarded", as the man himself says in the film. Any time you go all-in on the hype for a film, you risk massive disappointment. Thankfully, I think TDK was a case study for when the stars align and the pre-built hype manages to elevate the experience of a film that is truly delivering the goods.
 
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The only way a 2008 TDK level of hype happens again is if this corona virus **** is dead in a few years, and ‘The Batman’ is for the most part universally praised. Then in 4-5 years from now when the sequel arrives, the fandom is just DYING to see Joker or Two-Face in the Battinson world, and we can flock to a theater without worrying about catching something.
 
shauner111 said:
The only way a 2008 TDK level of hype happens again is if this corona virus **** is dead in a few years, and ‘The Batman’ is for the most part universally praised. Then in 4-5 years from now when the sequel arrives, the fandom is just DYING to see Joker or Two-Face in the Battinson world, and we can flock to a theater without worrying about catching something.
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Dude, the next big blockbuster film that is able to have a proper global release in theaters (God willing, sometime next year) is going to feel like water in a desert. That in of itself will be an event. I hope it can happen for The Batman, but too soon to tell.
 
BatLobster said:
Ha! It only happened a few months back. It's not something I ever would've ever thought to intentionally seek out, but I since they were nice enough to ask me...I figured I've been around here enough and might as well give it a shot.

@Gothamsknight

I'm a bit older than you (I was 21 and had JUST graduated college when TDK came out), but I know what you mean. It was an absolutely an event and if you were experiencing it at the right moment in your life, nothing really compares IMO. I was too young to experience the Bat-mania of 89, but TDK is probably as close as we'll come.

The crazy thing for me is how long the hype build was. From the moment the Joker card was turned at the end of TDK, the "Batman Begins sequel" became the most anticipated film on a lot of people's radars. It was an absolute obsession, even before we knew anything about the film. I made friends that I still have to this day based on other people who were looking forward to the movie as much as I was. It was really something that brought people together. 3 agonizing years of speculation. I had finished freshman year of college when Begins came out, spent the rest of college living for this movie, and finally... here it was waiting for us, like the best graduation present ever. I'll never forget that joyous feeling of waiting in line with my buddies for that midnight IMAX screening, counting down the hours and minutes. It felt like the culmination of a journey we'd all been on together, just waiting for this one 2 1/2 hour experience, to see that epic Batman vs Joker clash on the big screen for the first time on film since 1989.

When it was over, we all went to a 24 hour diner at 3AM to have burgers and put the pieces of our brains back together. Like you said, the fact that it actually exceeded expectations made it all the more special. I think there was just a collective belief that the movie was going to deliver something next-level, and it was a great feeling to have "our faith rewarded", as the man himself says in the film. Any time you go all-in on the hype for a film, you risk massive disappointment. Thankfully, I think TDK was a case study for when the stars align and the pre-built hype manages to elevate the experience of a film that is truly delivering the goods.
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Yup, very well said. I had seen Batman Begins with my mother and brother back in 2005 and that ending had me ACHING for the next film haha. The only thing that softened the wait was my huge hype for Spider-Man 3, but TDK hype train was in full effect by the time that film was out.

When TDK released, i was with a friend, his father and his uncle. After the movie was over, I remember thinking that I wouldn't be able to sleep that night. I was just far too hyped and blown away by what I had just seen. haha i remember my brother went and saw it, though i didn't know it, but his hair was messed up when he got home and I jokingly said "you saw TDK, huh?" It really was just a surreal experience. I actually went and saw TDK the other night at my local cinema for the first time since 2008, and there was a group of pre teens or very early teens sitting in front of me with their guardian. it was obvious none of them had seen the film and they were literally on the edge of their seat the whole time, even reacting to the pencil trick. at the end, of course they all gave it a round of applause.

Often times with movies, you either enjoy them or dont, or youll eventually rewatch it again on tv or something. with TDK, it was different for me. It's a movie ive rewatched constantly, and if I wasn't watching it, I was looking up impressions on youtube back in the day, or something like the Joker Blogs, which was a set of fan movies depicting TDK Joker in arkham. To this day, I never tire of the movie. I'm sure people are sick of TDK being held up to such a high standard, but it truly deserves it. It's the only comic book movie that I think truly deserves to be nominated and win best picture (something im still mad about today!) And it's not just me either, but my friends and even my parents. My mother still talks about it whenever i bring up the Joker film, and my friends always say "yeah its gonna be good, but nothing will ever beat TDK". That's a testament to what an incredible film it is, and that even after 12 years, the praise has not gone away, but in fact continues to increase.

We've had so many comic book films since then, and the MCU has been so massive in pop culture. Going to conventions and seeing so many people love these characters never gets old for me. and I think what the MCU has accomplished is amazing, but there's a part of me that has soured on those movies not because theyre bad by any means, but there's a pulse and soul that I feel was sort of lost during the "shared universe phase" and my longing for self contained stories to return has only increased. FIlms Like Logan and Joker, which is unlike anything the genre has seen. That's why I love what DC has been doing since 2018. focusing on one story rather than connecting gives each film an identity and it's gonna allow someone like Matt Reeves to full realize his vision of Batman over the course of 3 movies and an HBO tv show. It's something I've missed as I've gotten tired of the shared universe stuff a long time ago.
 
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Oh man, I had such a similar "post-TDK" daze haha. I just remember riding the bus home with my friend at like 5am as the sun was rising, fighting sleep and neither of us said a word, but we both knew we had just been on a crazy ride and life was a little bit different now that we were on the other side. I knew I'd have to try and get sleep though because I had to do it all over again the next night (my first date with my now-wife), this time for a 2AM IMAX screening. I also distinctly walking around NYC after seeing it, and my ear kept hearing the Joker's theme as if it was rising from the ambient buzz of the streets. It was all in my head obviously, but that's how impactful the movie was on me. It very much attached itself to my brain instantly.

I also remember The Joker blogs....my god, there were SO many channels doing Heath impersonations back then. It was truly a phenomenon. People were living it. I think that's the difference between what this trilogy was and the MCU. It didn't need 25 movies. In fact because of everything it didn't show you, it let people's imaginations run wild and fully invest in that world even more. The viral marketing is still IMO, the best of its kind ever done. I wish more films would utilize that again. Would be amazing if they did something like that for The Batman.
 
The Joker said:
The Batman thread has taken a big nose dive. I stuck my head in there recently and they're all ripping each other to shreds arguing about the morality of Batman having a teenage sidekick.

They should have stuck to their TDKR slander.
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That section consistently has some of the worst takes on Batman.

And unless its Burton, prepare for any live action film version of Batman to get a bunch of slander, hot takes, nitpicks, and lame jokes.
 
BatLobster said:
Oh man, I had such a similar "post-TDK" daze haha. I just remember riding the bus home with my friend at like 5am as the sun was rising, fighting sleep and neither of us said a word, but we both knew we had just been on a crazy ride and life was a little bit different now that we were on the other side. I knew I'd have to try and get sleep though because I had to do it all over again the next night (my first date with my now-wife), this time for a 2AM IMAX screening. I also distinctly walking around NYC after seeing it, and my ear kept hearing the Joker's theme as if it was rising from the ambient buzz of the streets. It was all in my head obviously, but that's how impactful the movie was on me. It very much attached itself to my brain instantly.

I also remember The Joker blogs....my god, there were SO many channels doing Heath impersonations back then. It was truly a phenomenon. People were living it. I think that's the difference between what this trilogy was and the MCU. It didn't need 25 movies. In fact because of everything it didn't show you, it let people's imaginations run wild and fully invest in that world even more. The viral marketing is still IMO, the best of its kind ever done. I wish more films would utilize that again. Would be amazing if they did something like that for The Batman.
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Bane and joker impressions were the biggest things of the year they were released you can see it all on YouTube its fun going back and watching
 
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