TMOS Reviews Thread - Non Spoiler Review and Discussion - Part 2

[SuperAl]

lets just be glad it didnt start in the 30%s like Green Lantern, this percentage basically verifies its a good movie.

 

[Mjölnir]

you sir are a flipping idiot and her review of WHATEVER has nothing to do with my comment about Avengers being a total popcorn fest and nothing more. Now if you would like I can write a very detalied review of Avengers which would be much better than her review of WHATEVER. I can also see you are a total MARVEL fanboy. Also why would critics that rated it B- and 3/5 consider that rotten?

Even though I doubt I'll agree with her on the opinion of the movie she wrote far more maturely than you are doing so no, I don't think I would like you to do that. And my point was that when you complained about "whatever" and such you said they come off as "whiny kids that didn't get their way". That's the irony since I think you can guess what you're coming off as.

What do you base your notion on that I'm a Marvel fanboy on? The way I've not written anything negative at all about TMOS and consistently said that any negative reviews don't have to mean anything? You're the one that started comparing the two, making one negative and the other positive, so if anyone is coming off as a fanboy it would be you.

My comment about rotten/fresh is a fact. The reviewers decide the rating themselves.

 

[GreenKToo]

That one was already there. I think this is the new one

http://www.movies.com/movie-news/man-of-steel-best-superman-movie/12497

I haven't read it, because it seemed like the first line was going to be a spoiler...

It was. he did say this at the end...

The action is also pretty boss and fairly frequent (the Smallville sequence alone is loud and meaty), and there are some moments that are easily comparable to the best stuff from any recent superhero movie (including The Avengers). But where Man of Steel really succeeds is in its power to connect, emotionally and spiritually, with its audience

It kinda contradicts what the negative reviews said.

 

[Micromind]

I suggest the "average rating" part under the tomatometer. I don't know what SR's pre-release score was, but I seriously doubt it was 10/10.

SR - 7/10
MOS - 7.5/10

SR rating is from 256 reviews, unlike that of MOS where only 17 have been counted so far.

For MOS, the rating could go up or down, in-order to compare it with SR, you should wait till it gets about 256 reviews.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

I just hope it at least stays in the 70's. I think anything in the 70's is solid.

 

[Autonet]

Even though I doubt I'll agree with her on the opinion of the movie she wrote far more maturely than you are doing so no, I don't think I would like you to do that.

What do you base your notion on that I'm a Marvel fanboy on? The way I've not written anything negative at all about TMOS and consistently said that any negative reviews don't have to mean anything? You're the one that started comparing the two, making one negative and the other positive, so if anyone is coming off as a fanboy it would be you.

My comment about rotten/fresh is a fact. The reviewers decide the rating themselves.

You're right. Not sure what he's smoking bashing Avengers so hard. Avengers was a decent, well put together movie.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

It was. he did say this at the end...

The action is also pretty boss and fairly frequent (the Smallville sequence alone is loud and meaty), and there are some moments that are easily comparable to the best stuff from any recent superhero movie (including The Avengers). But where Man of Steel really succeeds is in its power to connect, emotionally and spiritually, with its audience

It kinda contradicts what the negative reviews said.

Definitely!

 

[Krumm]

Rotten Tomatoes: 32 reviews counted: 23 positive, 9 negative.

It's not the end of the world, dudes.

For MOS, the rating could go up or down, in-order to compare it with SR, you should wait till it gets about 256 reviews.

I know, really. It's only Tuesday. By Friday, we'll have 7x the amount.

 

[DanSupKP37]

I am not seeing much talk about Henry here.. I hope he didn't get lost in the mayhem..

 

[Micromind]

It was. he did say this at the end...

The action is also pretty boss and fairly frequent (the Smallville sequence alone is loud and meaty), and there are some moments that are easily comparable to the best stuff from any recent superhero movie (including The Avengers). But where Man of Steel really succeeds is in its power to connect, emotionally and spiritually, with its audience

It kinda contradicts what the negative reviews said.

When Hans Zimmer is scoring, that's a given.

 

[David Destructs]

I think the panic is because of SR's reception and bank.

SR is pretty much universally derided by fans and critics alike, yet the reviews for SR were pretty favourable at the time, it's RT was even 76, or 79? I forget.

But this does leave MOS in a weird position if it turns out as just a solid, good movie in the 70's.

I don't know what to make of that potential scenario, other than SR was just a bad movie that critics liked yet the fans GA didn't.

:?

 

[Moridin]

Yes, I know he didn't pitch the original idea.. but the Moment he was made director, he can, if he chooses try to get any part of any script re-written... if it doesn't jive with him...

Key word there, "try".

Just like an Architect wouldn't just draw a building anyway their owners want.. they'll have to make sure it won't collapse...

The buck always stop at the director.. that's what DIRECTOR means.. he's the GUY in charge... if he's not, then he's got no business being a director... he'll just be a 'yes man'... the best directors will have scripts re-written, and re-written until their are satisfied...

You seem to think a director is either a Yes Man or a Dictator, there's actually quite a broad spectrum between them. Film making is a collaborative process, on some films a director will have more control than on others. The bigger the budget the more people will stick their oar in (Nolan is one of the few exceptions, not the rule) wanting to make sure their money isn't being squandered.

There is absolutely no way Snyder could have just decided to change the script without having to go through WB, Nolan & Goyer first. Infact I believe there was an interview with Snyder saying he'd be talking to Nolan over the phone, saying [paraphrased] "wouldn't it be cool if..." & Nolan saying "No, you can't just do things because you think they're cool, there needs to be a reason behind it".

 

[Superwoman Prime]

SR rating is from 256 reviews, unlike that of MOS where only 17 have been counted so far.

For MOS, the rating could go up or down, in-order to compare it with SR, you should wait till it gets about 256 reviews.

We should wait for more reviews to judge the movie's overall critical rating period, but hardly anyone's doing that anyway. lol

 

[Autonet]

Comic book fans always seem to pick an extreme. Nothing can be in the middle.

TASM IS ****
GL IS ****
WATCHMEN IS ****
SR IS ****

When none of the above is true. It's not black and white. "Critics who like any of the above movies are idiots."

 

[Gavan]

Argh. I'm going to lose interest in discussing and watching new superhero movies if this isn't both a major box-office hit and a major critical success.

Even it does great, if the majority of critics don't see it as improving on the previous films, the intolerant will still think they have won. To quote Eisenhower, "we will accept nothing less than full victory". This movie and us are the underdogs, the Davids, here.

Idolatry must be countered, the arrogant must be humbled, and the obdurate must have their hearts softened.

 

[mace1]

I suggest the "average rating" part under the tomatometer. I don't know what SR's pre-release score was, but I seriously doubt it was 10/10.

SR - 7/10
MOS - 7.5/10

I ADD SOME STUFF BELOW.


Transformers (2007)
Tomatometer-57%
Average rating-5.8/10
Audience view-
Audience like it-89%
Average rating-4.1/5
Domestic: $319,246,193
+ Foreign: $390,463,587
= Worldwide: $709,709,780





Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (2009)
Tomatometer-20%
Average rating-4/10
Audience view
Audience like it-76%
Average rating-3.5
Domestic:$402,111,870
+ Foreign: $434,191,823
= Worldwide: $836,303,693



Transformers: Dark of the Moon (2011)
Tomatometer-36%
Average rating-4.9/10
Audience view-
Audience like it-67%
Average rating-3.6/5
Domestic: $352,390,543
+ Foreign: $771,356,453
= Worldwide: $1,123,746,996



Superman (1978)
Tomatometer-93%
Average rating-8/10
Audience view-
Audience like it-77%
Average rating-3.5/5


Superman II (1981)
Tomatometer-89%
Average rating-7.5/10
Audience view-
Audience like it-66%
Average rating-3.5/5

Superman Returns (2006)
Tomatometer-76%
Average rating-7/10
Audience view-
Audience like it-67%
Average rating-3.3/5

Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut (2006)
Tomatometer-89%
Average rating-7.7/10
Audience view-
Audience like it-67%
Average rating-3.5/5

 

[Tim_Riggins]

Gotta say, I'm surprised there are alrdy 9 rotten reviews, it seems the negative ones think there's no heart or emotion (when it oozes in the trailers, tv spots, etc), and that it's too loud, too much in the action department.

Weird, but not worrying.

 

[souvlaki]

I understand the critic decides whether or not a review can be considered rotten but I still don't understand how a critic could logically put their review in the rotten category while simultaneously giving it a B- score. That makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever.

 

[Sup3rman81]

Even though I doubt I'll agree with her on the opinion of the movie she wrote far more maturely than you are doing so no, I don't think I would like you to do that. And my point was that when you complained about "whatever" and such you said they come off as "whiny kids that didn't get their way". That's the irony since I think you can guess what you're coming off as.

What do you base your notion on that I'm a Marvel fanboy on? The way I've not written anything negative at all about TMOS and consistently said that any negative reviews don't have to mean anything? You're the one that started comparing the two, making one negative and the other positive, so if anyone is coming off as a fanboy it would be you.

My comment about rotten/fresh is a fact. The reviewers decide the rating themselves.

Well if they decide the rating then they shouldnt put a B- or a 3/5 and then say its rotten. Pretty stupid logic if you ask me. I was just saying that its dumb to complain about lack of story and bash a film but give Avengers loads of praise when it isnt that great of a story movie. Action wise yes but story is not there and acting was terrible.

 

[DanSupKP37]

I understand the critic decides whether or not a review can be considered rotten but I still don't understand how a critic could logically put their review in the rotten category while simultaneously giving it a B- score. That makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever.

That is moronic.. Just give it a C and call it Rotten.. You get a B in school that means you passed..

 

[Autonet]

Well if they decide the rating then they shouldnt put a B- or a 3/5 and then say its rotten. Pretty stupid logic if you ask me. I was just saying that its dumb to complain about lack of story and bash a film but give Avengers loads of praise when it isnt that great of a story movie. Action wise yes but story is not there and acting was terrible.

Are you serious? If you dislike Avengers this much you shouldn't even step into a theater for MoS.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

I understand the critic decides whether or not a review can be considered rotten but I still don't understand how a critic could logically put their review in the rotten category while simultaneously giving it a B- score. That makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever.

That is my point.

 

[Smallville13]

There's still 10X the amount of reviews to come in to reach a final consensus. I believe in this film, it'll go up.

 

[Scarlettess]

That is moronic.. Just give it a C and call it Rotten.. You get a B in school that means you passed..

you get C in school and it means you passed.

You get a D in school and that means you just passed. (at least over here.)

 

[Sup3rman81]

I understand the critic decides whether or not a review can be considered rotten but I still don't understand how a critic could logically put their review in the rotten category while simultaneously giving it a B- score. That makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever.

exactly!! that what i was saying...they give it a B- and some gave it 3/5 which isnt great but its good but then decide to put the tomato meter at Rotten. Sounds like a very flawed system and should not even be considered a logic way to measure a films success. Even metacritic has a good, mixed, and negative format. much better than RT