TMOS Reviews Thread - Non Spoiler Review and Discussion - Part 2

[DarthSkywalker]

I'm terrified right now. Please go back up. I know I shouldn't care this much, but damn it, I do.

Come on friend, relax. All that matters in the end is your opinion. And if you don't end up loving it, it is not the end of the world.

 

[Project862006]

You do realize how that is a contradiction right? If he understood the characters, why are you getting different feelings?

And all I have to do is watch the last 15 mins to realize Snyder did not get the characters and their arcs. Not Ozy and not Rorschach.

no it's not a contradiction the character was the same but billy crudup's performances was so amazing to me that i actually liked him he made a emotionally disconnected character not boring

 

[robot]

MoS wasn't Snyder's idea though, he didn't pitch a vision to the studio. Nolan pitched Goyers idea to the studio then recruited Snyder to bring it to life.

Buck stops with all main players as far as I'm concerned (ie, Snyder, Goyer, WB, Nolan)

Yes, I know he didn't pitch the original idea.. but the Moment he was made director, he can, if he chooses try to get any part of any script re-written... if it doesn't jive with him...

Just like an Architect wouldn't just draw a building anyway their owners want.. they'll have to make sure it won't collapse...

The buck always stop at the director.. that's what DIRECTOR means.. he's the GUY in charge... if he's not, then he's got no business being a director... he'll just be a 'yes man'... the best directors will have scripts re-written, and re-written until their are satisfied...

 

[Ms. Marvel]

If it makes bank it won't matter where the RT score ends up. So do your part and watch it 10 times.

But I'm scared for the affect of the RT score on the BO?
I'm sure the GA will like it, but how many will watch it if they see low ratings on RT?

 

[Hamill-Joker]

Saw IGN gave it a 9/10.

 

[Joker594]

Jesus Rollerblading Christ, everybody. I KNOW some of you were here during the Dark Knight Rises debacle. That b*****d dipped below 80% a couple times. I remember it.

Calm down and give this time.

 

[Sup3rman81]

This comment about the Avengers managed to compete with the "whatever" review in nuance. That's ironic since you previously complained about such things.

And RT doesn't take it as rotten, it's the reviewers themselves that decide if it's rotten or fresh. It's basically the reviewer saying "yes/no" to the question if he thinks we should go see it. So there's no flaw in the system, it's just people treating it as more important than it is.

you sir are a flipping idiot and her review of WHATEVER has nothing to do with my comment about Avengers being a total popcorn fest and nothing more. Now if you would like I can write a very detalied review of Avengers which would be much better than her review of WHATEVER. I can also see you are a total MARVEL fanboy. Also why would critics that rated it B- and 3/5 consider that rotten?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

no it's not a contradiction the character was the same but billy crudup's performances was so amazing to me that i actually liked him he made a emotionally disconnected character not boring

Doctor Manhattan is a tragic figure. His current way of being is the problem. Also I wouldn't call him emotionally disconnected. He is the one who can feel it all. Crudup is great in the movie, but his Dr. Manhattan is not as the character is written and it is another reason why the finale falls over itself.

 

[Micromind]

Yes, I know he didn't pitch the original idea.. but the Moment he was made director, he can, if he chooses try to get any part of any script re-written... if it doesn't jive with him...

Just like an Architect wouldn't just draw a building anyway their owners want.. they'll have to make sure it won't collapse...

The buck always stop at the director.. that's what DIRECTOR means.. he's the GUY in charge... if he's not, then he's got no business being a director... he'll just be a 'yes man'... the best directors will have scripts re-written, and re-written until their are satisfied...

 

[Liam_H]

But I'm scared for the affect of the RT score on the BO?
I'm sure the GA will like it, but how many will watch it if they see low ratings on RT?

True that it might have some effect because a lot of GA think Superman is too boring. But a high RT score could sway them enough to check it out. However, the WOM from friends and family are the biggest factor.

 

[Superwoman Prime]

But....but what if it doesn't get a sequel....?
*hyperventilates*

Then Man of Steel, in all likelihood, will be the last time you ever see Superman on the big screen. Because if it fails to earn a sequel, JL is doomed as well.

That said, I am fairly certain MoS will have its sequel.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

True that it might have some effect because a lot of GA think Superman is too boring. But a high RT score could sway them enough to check it out. However, the WOM from friends and family are the biggest factor.

That's what is really scary.
When people say it will get lower, it's very scary indeed.

 

[DanSupKP37]

But I'm scared for the affect of the RT score on the BO?
I'm sure the GA will like it, but how many will watch it if they see low ratings on RT?

99% don't check RT to decide they decide based on the marketing ads and if it drew them in. Something tells me they are nitpicking I have seen and heard far too many good things to feel like this deserves to be in the low 70's or even high 60's.. Low 80's Minimum..

Some movies get hailed by critics and it is a mystery at to why? Did Mission Impossible 4 really deserve to be over 90%???

 

[-JKR-]

But I'm scared for the affect of the RT score on the BO?
I'm sure the GA will like it, but how many will watch it if they see low ratings on RT?

The GA doesn't care about the RT score. The marketing is what lures audiences in on the first weekend, and the word of mouth does the job in subsequent weeks.

 

[Visualiza]

I just want to say that the majority of the negative reviews are boiling down to this not being a Donner film and Superman not being Christopher Reeve. I wouldn't be too concerned about the film until I see a review that judges the film on it's own merits.

That's a good point. A lot of these reviews have criticized Man Of Steel for being too "serious" and not being "funny" enough, when occasional campiness and silliness were key to the Donner version.

This sentiment is one of the chief problems within this community. Far too many of us cherry-pick criticism and take it at face value, as opposed to interpreting it with some sense of context.

The thing is, I've read praise that compliments the filmmakers for the same reason these critics are decrying it, yet you all have nothing to say on the matter. So what is it, really? Do we really expect everyone to have a Superman circle jerk, because even the most lukewarm negativity is over-scrutinized and the reviewers credibility called into question. It's ridiculous.

Ultimately, people need to stop making up their minds about whether they like these films before they release; some of you put far too much emotional investment in films while they're still in pre-production for Christs sake, let alone paying far too much attention to what the critics say. I notice that most of the people who say "We shouldn't be too concerned about critic ABC because they said XYZ" are actually the folks are the most concerned and insecure...about a movie.

Let's come back down to earth, people. Watch it for yourselves and stop overreacting to criticism.

 

[ThreadPool]

The RT score is now at 71% and falling fast. looks like we got a another DC FAIL on our hands...

Use some logic here.
Shall I bookmark this post in anticipation of the opening weekend box office results? If you're talking money, this won't fail. If you're talking consensus we're pretty far from knowing, but so far it seems that comic book fans and the general audience like it.
And everyone else:
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[Liam_H]

Even if MoS disappoints a bit in the BO it will still get a sequel cause WB has too much riding on this potential DC Universe. I mean I believe there were reports that they would consider a GL sequel if it could get around $250(?) million WW. But it couldn't even do that.

 

[sf2]

Wow. It's like history repeating. Exactly like what happened to SR.

 

[JOE]

This BO will decide the fate of the world...

 

[-JKR-]

Wow. It's like history repeating. Exactly like what happened to SR.

You like your drama, don't you?

 

[Ms. Marvel]

Wow. It's like history repeating. Exactly like what happened to SR.

 

[ThreadPool]

The GA doesn't care about the RT score. The marketing is what lures audiences in on the first weekend, and the word of mouth does the job in subsequent weeks.

The only movie that I've ever actually seen market their RT score is 'First Class'.
I enjoyed that movie, but I found that kind of funny.

 

[mad-sci]

My god.



Question: has ANYONE read the reviews?

I ask because most of the negative reviews LIKE a lot of MOS.

So it's a good, watchable film - just not to their taste.


So what does a review mean then, if its positive or negative?


Not a damn thing - what I'd give for a Smokey from Friday meme...


If a REALLY polarising film like TASM can get a sequel, so can a film that has already made 2/3rds of its budget back via product placement, before its release. Oh yes, it also has MUCH stronger reviews too...

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Wow. It's like history repeating. Exactly like what happened to SR.

Not sure what you mean here? If anything, this will go over with the general public and fans far better then SR, which I actually like, simply do to its structure. Even if it is a mediocre film, it is a mediocre film with Superman punching people in the face.

 

[GreenKToo]

True that it might have some effect because a lot of GA think Superman is too boring. But a high RT score could sway them enough to check it out. However, the WOM from friends and family are the biggest factor.

The GA doesn't care about the RT score. The marketing is what lures audiences in on the first weekend, and the word of mouth does the job in subsequent weeks.

This and this. relax people.
We knew this was MOSTLY gonna be about the action. yes it has a good story, but the action is the star here.
some critics cant and wont accept anything less than citizen kane, and some will never accept anyone not named CR.