TMOS Reviews Thread - Non Spoiler Review and Discussion - Part 4

[Str8 Rippin]

Haha I'm glad the overall social media buzz is positive. Hopefully we still blow the box office wide open this weekend.

Thanks Tra-El!

 

[bapi]

Y'all's are amazing. You'll criticize the critics, you'll criticize other superman movies, you'll criticize other superman actors...all because yer so defensive over a movie you haven't seen. Yer self consciousness is showing.

Spot on!

Typical fanboys...

 

[mmbrown7L]

I read somer reviews that this movie had some very funny scenes and wasnt as humorless as people might think. Are there no funny scenese?

I honestly can think of very few funny lines at all. Go in expecting very little humor. If you find some, great...but in general I'd say it's pretty humorless. The girl saying "he's kind of hot" felt like forced comedy and was completely out of place in the context. I remember laughing only once.

 

[Asgard]

Not sure I'd put my stock in Twitter after how positive TASM reactions were. I like the film to an extent, but it didn't deserve the praise it got on Twitter.

I bet if you liked TASM as much as the people who twitted about the movie, youd say different.

 

[Eggyman]

I bet if you liked TASM as much as the people who twitted about the movie, youd say different.

Absolutely right. If I agreed with the Twitter reactions to that film, I would agree with the Twitter reactions. Well played. I'm not being negative. I haven't seen MOS. I'm saying that Twitter reactions have as little to do with your own opinion as a film critics review.

 

[Smallville13]

I feel Batman Begins is the benchmark with this film. And it seems alot of the criticism is shared between them. Take this review for example:

Nolan takes an admirable stab at developing a character-driven drama, only to give in to generic action-movie conventions with a blinding, deafening, explosion-laden finale that could have capped off any number of interchangeable Jerry Bruckheimer flicks.

It's for Batman Begins, but seems to be the same criticism leveled at Man of Steel.

 

[Smallville13]

More examples:

The movie slowly moves away from being an engaging film about people and starts to fit itself into the mold of every other dumb action movie you've ever seen.
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Where the movie fails, ultimately and sadly, is in its capitulation to conventional action movie wisdom.
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After much unnecessary padding and delay, the film settles down to...a thinly veiled and thoroughly trivialized reworking of 9/11.
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It's still an old-school superhero summer movie, the plotting tortuous, the characters relegated to one-scene-one-emotion simplicity, the digitized action a never ending club mix of chases and mano a manos.
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It's all a little disappointing, particularly given the talents involved.


These are all seperate reviews of Batman Begins straight from Rotten Tomatoes, and are pretty much exactly what Man of Steel is getting.

 

[Smallville13]

Also the top critics score of Batman Begins is 63%. Anyways I'll stop now.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Too late Smallville13. You already look desperate.

 

[Asgard]

Absolutely right. If I agreed with the Twitter reactions to that film, I would agree with the Twitter reactions. Well played. I'm not being negative. I haven't seen MOS. I'm saying that Twitter reactions have as little to do with your own opinion as a film critics review.

Exactly. Although if someone were the type that takes reviews to heart before seeing MOS, they'd have a much better time hanging out on Twitter than here or rottentomatoes. Lol.

 

[robot]

More examples:

The movie slowly moves away from being an engaging film about people and starts to fit itself into the mold of every other dumb action movie you've ever seen.
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Where the movie fails, ultimately and sadly, is in its capitulation to conventional action movie wisdom.
_____________________________

After much unnecessary padding and delay, the film settles down to...a thinly veiled and thoroughly trivialized reworking of 9/11.
____________________________

It's still an old-school superhero summer movie, the plotting tortuous, the characters relegated to one-scene-one-emotion simplicity, the digitized action a never ending club mix of chases and mano a manos.
_____________________________

It's all a little disappointing, particularly given the talents involved.


These are all seperate reviews of Batman Begins straight from Rotten Tomatoes, and are pretty much exactly what Man of Steel is getting.

Sounds like goyer....

 

[Tequilla]

Well , the 2nd half of Begins is the worst thing Nolan has ever done , so i understand those quotes. The thing is Begins first half is the best thing put on celluloid in the superhero genre , so although uneven , people enjoy the movie.

It doesn't surprise me these sort of reviews. It's a Zack Snyder film. I dont understand what people are expecting.

 

[Tim_Riggins]

It's easy to say now "I don't understand what people are expecting", we would all be praising them if the movie had like 90 % at the moment. Fact is, some don't like too much action, what you love is something someone else hates, there's no trying to understand that.

Maybe, to have global acclaim, you need something safe in a way (but TDKR and TDK kind of makes it moot), you need something universal, more mainstream.

There will always be something worthwile in a movie, whether it be for one person or millions.

 

[Tequilla]

But i dont understand why people are so preoccupied with universal praise , or global acclaim. As long as the person likes it (or dislikes it)...who cares.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Well , the 2nd half of Begins is the worst thing Nolan has ever done , so i understand those quotes. The thing is Begins first half is the best thing put on celluloid in the superhero genre , so although uneven , people enjoy the movie.

It doesn't surprise me these sort of reviews. It's a Zack Snyder film. I dont understand what people are expecting.

So I am the only one that loves the second half of Begins? I know it has a few problems, but this can't be right.

 

[Sharkboy]

It's easy to say now "I don't understand what people are expecting", we would all be praising them if the movie had like 90 % at the moment. Fact is, some don't like too much action, what you love is something someone else hates, there's no trying to understand that.

Maybe, to have global acclaim, you need something safe in a way (but TDKR and TDK kind of makes it moot), you need something universal, more mainstream.

There will always be something worthwile in a movie, whether it be for one person or millions.

This guy gets it! For TDK I always felt that it was Heath's performance that brought it up to acclaim, because without it at lot of people would have taken more issue with the dark tone, the more practical aesthetic, the focus on character over extraneous action sequences etc. I truly think a large part of those fresh reviews were "I had issues with the film..but then Heath Ledger's performance happened".

Same with Avengers, thin plot, too much action...but it's funny and exciting to anyone who has a pulse, a very hard film to walk away unhappy from.

 

[Eggyman]

Exactly. Although if someone were the type that takes reviews to heart before seeing MOS, they'd have a much better time hanging out on Twitter than here or rottentomatoes. Lol.

I don't go on Twitter as much since Bret Easton Ellis calmed down. I love that beautiful troll.

 

[Eggyman]

This guy gets it! For TDK I always felt that it was Heath's performance that brought it up to acclaim, because without it at lot of people would have taken more issue with the dark tone, the more practical aesthetic, the focus on character over extraneous action sequences etc. I truly think a large part of those fresh reviews were "I had issues with the film..but then Heath Ledger's performance happened".

Same with Avengers, thin plot, too much action...but it's funny and exciting to anyone who has a pulse, a very hard film to walk away unhappy from.

Completely agree. Give the people something they love and they can be forgiving. That's always been my argument for TDK and TDKR. The former I love despite its flaws, but the latter didn't do enough for me to be able to forgive its flaws.

 

[SofNascimento]

More examples:

The movie slowly moves away from being an engaging film about people and starts to fit itself into the mold of every other dumb action movie you've ever seen.
______________________________

Where the movie fails, ultimately and sadly, is in its capitulation to conventional action movie wisdom.
_____________________________

After much unnecessary padding and delay, the film settles down to...a thinly veiled and thoroughly trivialized reworking of 9/11.
____________________________

It's still an old-school superhero summer movie, the plotting tortuous, the characters relegated to one-scene-one-emotion simplicity, the digitized action a never ending club mix of chases and mano a manos.
_____________________________

It's all a little disappointing, particularly given the talents involved.


These are all seperate reviews of Batman Begins straight from Rotten Tomatoes, and are pretty much exactly what Man of Steel is getting.

Interesting!

 

[damian99uk]

I'm not worried about negative views. It's the opinions of people who are paid to pick faults with films. I'll go by more the reaction of someone like John Campea from AMC movie talk. (Find it on YouTube it's a great show) who has it as his most anticipated film of the year. If he likes it being a big comic book movie fan then I know I'll love it. Also hate all the people comparing it to S:TM

 

[Tim_Riggins]

This guy gets it! For TDK I always felt that it was Heath's performance that brought it up to acclaim, because without it at lot of people would have taken more issue with the dark tone, the more practical aesthetic, the focus on character over extraneous action sequences etc. I truly think a large part of those fresh reviews were "I had issues with the film..but then Heath Ledger's performance happened".

Same with Avengers, thin plot, too much action...but it's funny and exciting to anyone who has a pulse, a very hard film to walk away unhappy from.

It's possible, when a movie gets ambitious and a tad otherwordly in a way, that's when it risks losing, or alienating quite a few viewers. For example, TDKR, IMO is a masterpiece, and is incredibly ambitious, much more than BB and TDK, and yet, it seems that among the internet community, it's considered as the "worst" of the three (I think it's the best).

 

[J.Howlett]

So I am the only one that loves the second half of Begins? I know it has a few problems, but this can't be right.

You're okay. I'm with you. The first half is the better half but the second half is not some catastrophe. It's good, if a tad over done in the editing department.

 

[-JKR-]

I think too many people on here are way too defensive of this movie, without even having seen it.

Now the movie hasn't gotten universal acclaim because it's not mainstream enough? A majority of the reviews I've read actually say the opposite: the movie tries to be something it isn't, a deep science-fiction drama, and also shows hints of greatness, but ultimately it fails to pay off what promised and turns into "just another mainstream blockbuster." That's where the comments about the lack of humor also fit in. And that's where your responses make even less sense, guys. People are not asking for silly characters and slapstick humor! If you take yourself as seriously as this movie seemingly does, you better get your **** together. Otherwise you'll come off as silly. Humor, even subtle, is a great tool in storytelling. But of course blind fanboy rage will lead to responses such as "the lolz...they want the Batman & Robinz...silly critics... bunchofidiotzzzz...LOOOLLZZZ...want humooorzzz...". Some humor doesn't mean the movie will be campy; it just means some levity for a couple of moments.

You've even gotten to the point where you have to somehow justify other movies' better reviews?! Give me a break!

Anyway, I have my fair shair of doubts about the movie. Always had: I've found Zack Snyder to be style over substance so far, and to have difficulties with storytelling and characters; but I hope and think that Christopher Nolan's involvement as producer has reigned him in somewhat; I'm still looking forward to the movie, as the recent previews have been looking good. I'm expecting solid popcorn fair, at least better than Snyder's previous movies, and that's what we're getting. The reviews are even solid! So... I simply don't get the end-of-world mentality on these forums. And much less I get the complaints about the critics... who simply didn't think the movie was great. Grow up, guys; AND - don't worry! We'll all see the movie for ourselves!

 

[Tim_Riggins]

You are misreading what we are saying. I'm just saying, you want absolute critical acclaim, try to play it safe.

Anyway, Nolan as producer, even if he probably didnt do much still made sure that the movie didnt suck

 

[Tequilla]

So I am the only one that loves the second half of Begins? I know it has a few problems, but this can't be right.

I also find it somewhat enjoyable (and better than most superhero movies) but it's still extremely pedestrian if we look at the rest of his filmography and more specifically the other two Batman movies he made. I understand why someone mentions that half sticks like a sore thumb in the whole trilogy.