TMOS Reviews Thread - Non Spoiler Review and Discussion - Part 6

[JangoNate]

Back up to 59%. So much drama from a simple number.

My tickets are purchased and I'm seeing it tomorrow at 12:30. Can't wait to join the spoiler forum to discuss my feelings.

Meanwhile, 'This is the end' is pretty darn funny. It's disturbing, but laugh out loud funny in some places.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Now it is but not at the time production started on it.

I misread what JKR said. I thought he said that the sequel has to be rushed.

 

[Poni_Boy]

I wholeheartedly agree. This is especially jarring for me WRT military characters and the like, particularly when the film paints itself as being anything remotely authentic.

I also noticed your criticism earlier about the Army officer's comment about Superman. Almost chuckled at someone's attempt(and uninitiated, for that matter) to refute it, and I can certainly affirm that it wouldn't happen in today's military. Simply put, no officer worth his or her salt would ever make a comment like that under those circumstances. Ever. The damage to their credibility and career(an adverse fitness report wouldn't be out of the question) would make any of them think twice.

Maybe I'm biased in this respect, but I'd like it if more care were given to the portrayal of service members in films. I get it that they're an easy and rather effective plot device to fall back on(hive-minded oppressors/saviours), but in my nine years, I've met as many intelligent, independent thinkers in the military as I have anywhere else, be it government or the private sector. It's funny, because for as far out there as the premise was, Battle: Los Angeles gave me among the most authentic portrayals of the military I've ever personally seen in cinema; everything from conduct, to TTPs, and general demeanor, that movie managed to humanize the soldiers & airmen while still depicting the discipline and professionalism that they're known for. /rant, and sorry to derail, but your comments reminded me of this.

My thoughts exactly. The whole military machine in MOS is treated poorly. Two guys making decisions like cowboys with a support staff of college kids completely out of their element. And a lot of firepower getting unnecessarily destroyed. Bleh

 

[db85usa]

Lol this is fun to watch... Almost FRESH again! Yipee! *knock on wood/fingers crossed*

 

[GarudA]

Has anybody seen the user reviews at IMDB?, they all seem to like it. Funny the GA likes it where as half the critics do not.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0770828/reviews?start=0

 

[FlawlessVictory]

59% Nice, it's on the move! Don't stop there MOS, aim for Mud with Matthew McConaughey.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

I don't mean to offend anyone, but I don't care how the military is portrayed in movies. I know what they are like in real life and I respect the hell out of them.

 

[DanSupKP37]

2) WB was not openly disappointed in it at first

Yes they were.. They were spinning the numbers as best they could to hide the pain of Pirates 2 whooping it's butt week after week..

3) A sequel was greenlit and Singer was already writing the script

The sequel was never greenlit as in ever close to being made. I remember all the details.. Singer announced he had a deal but shortly after that his writers Dan and Mike were off the project (Pitches at WB obviously didn't go well) and Singer was busy now working on Valkyrie. That was a wrap on SR 2..

 

[Visualiza]

I'm not saying MOS ISN'T too serious, but this made me wince :I counted two jokes. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-13/-man-of-steel-falls-flat-mick-jagger-s-angels-film.html

So now the superhero genre is reduced to JOKE counting by certain critics.

You shouldn't take something like this at face value; when a critic makes this sort of comment, it's to illustrate a more complete thought. That thought is most likely that the film is lacking in the levity department, in that it's so serious as to be ridiculous. I haven't seen the film so I can neither confirm nor deny; however, I understand and can relate to the sentiment.

 

[regwec]

It we will be 80%+ by the time you go to see the movie. Fact.

Maybe.

 

[Poni_Boy]

For me it takes away the realism of the film, especially if the film takes itself seriously. It would be like watching all the people in movie drive with their eyes closed and have someone tell me "it doesn't matter if their eyes are closed it's only a movie."

 

[db85usa]

It we will be 80%+ by the time you go to see the movie. Fact.

Maybe.

Lol. Nice save, nice save.

 

[Skrilla31]

I have full faith in Zach Snyder's directorial capabilities, especially for Man Of Steel. I find that one of his biggest strengths as a filmmaker is his knack for visual storytelling. And at the risk of sounding utterly presumptuous, I feel a lot of the criticism he receives is rooted in ignorance. Was the character exploration really that shallow or did the visual symbolism just happen to go over your head?

Some people see that moment in the TV spots of Superman reaching towards the sun and think nothing of it. I see a man calling for a higher power to show him the way. I see Jesus on the cross calling out for his father. I summon Kal-El has always relied on Earth's sun to give him his strength and now in his time of need... he's reaching out for an answer. Will he get one? Do any of us get one?

Like I said, I believe Snyder is a visual storyteller at it's finest. And considering that comic books by and large are more of a visual medium, I can't think of a guy I'd trust more with telling the story of Superman. Hopefully the writing is great too. I'll find out when you guys do in a few hours. But I'm sorry, the negativity coming from these critics on RT just doesn't scare me. Plenty of bloggers I've come to respect and admire claim they were absolutely floored by this film so I have nothing but high hopes going into the theater.

 

[Visualiza]

I don't mean to offend anyone, but I don't care how the military is portrayed in movies. I know what they are like in real life and I respect the hell out of them.

I understand what you mean, but in my case, I simply would rather Hollywood not default so quickly to the idea of the military being a hive-minded force, rather than an organization composed of individuals. Sometimes it's used as a metaphor or in an abstract sense, and in many cases very effectively, but for the most part, it's quickly becoming another cliche Hollywood trope.

For me it takes away the realism of the film, especially if the film takes itself seriously. It would be like watching all the people in movie drive with their eyes closed and have someone tell me "it doesn't matter if their eyes are closed it's only a movie."

Co-sign.

 

[mayo23]

Even if Snyder is a great visual storyteller, he made a movie with a script that was overseen by Christopher Nolan and written by David Goyer. I'd say those two aspects cancel each other out somewhat.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

I don't mean to offend anyone, but I don't care how the military is portrayed in movies. I know what they are like in real life and I respect the hell out of them.

cool story!!

on-topic - to those who've seen it, how is the 3D? Worth it? A distraction?

 

[Visualiza]

Even if Snyder is a great visual storyteller, he made a movie with a script that was overseen by Christopher Nolan and written by David Goyer. I'd say those two aspects cancel each other out somewhat.

I wouldn't. Nobody is infallible, and no matter how promising the cast and crew may be, the end result can never be guaranteed. It's not quite the same as a tried and true recipe.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

I understand what you mean, but in my case, I simply would rather Hollywood not default so quickly to the idea of the military being a hive-minded force, rather than an organization composed of individuals. Sometimes it's used as a metaphor or in an abstract sense, and in many cases very effectively, but for the most part, it's quickly becoming another cliche Hollywood trope.

I understand what you're saying too.

 

[db85usa]

cool story!!

on-topic - to those who've seen it, how is the 3D? Worth it? A distraction?

Bad and no. See it in 2D IMAX D or 15/70.

 

[mayo23]

I wouldn't. Nobody is infallible, and no matter how promising the cast and crew may be, the end result can never be guaranteed. It's not quite the same as a tried and true recipe.

What are you talking about?

 

[Poni_Boy]

Co-sign.

Battle LA is a solid standard. The flaws in that film had nothing to do with lack of realism. In the same vein, the Miami Vice movie is far and wide the best portrayal of UCs I've seen in an action film, but that film made them very hard to relate to from a GA perspective (which took away from the entertainment value).

Personally I think the Iron Man movies are the best example of how to portray the military in genre movies.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

I don't like 3D anyway.

 

[Poni_Boy]

I wouldn't. Nobody is infallible, and no matter how promising the cast and crew may be, the end result can never be guaranteed. It's not quite the same as a tried and true recipe.

Yup. Spielberg is my favorite film maker head and shoulders over any other. But I've very much disliked (even hated) some of his most recent movies. I even published a one word review of War Horse that I was graciously asked to take down

 

[Senator Pleasury]

How on Earth do you ignore a user? I assumed it would be in the drop-down under the username.

How about not reading/answering their posts?

 

[Showtime]

Surprisingly my press screening was not in 3D on Tuesday. I was so happy.