TMOS Reviews Thread - Non Spoiler Review and Discussion

[ThePowerCosmic]

Better than TDK. Where does it rate on your list of All-time best CBM? How are the fight scenes compared to Spider-man 2? Is it better than Spider-man 2?

The fight scenes in SM2 are great, but the MOS fight scenes are greater. Much greater.

MOS
TA
SM2
X2
TDK
IM

 

[davejames]

Devin Faraci review examples:


" A totally stupid movie, STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS falls apart as it goes, raining debris as it implodes like a building being demolished." - Star Trek Into Darkness

" The whole movie feels so like a series of contradictions - bloated and long yet rushed, deeply serious yet utterly silly, politically minded yet ultimately vapid - that being both wildly entertaining and a bad movie would be exactly right for it." - The Dark Knight Rises

...So I'm not gonna worry about him.

Oh crap, I actually kinda agree with both of those. STID I liked a lot more on second viewing (although the plot holes and lack of originality still keep me from loving it), but TDKR just felt like a bloated, self-important mess all the way through (and a huge step down from TDK).

Still though, from the positive reviews I have heard so far on MOS, I'm pretty sure I will like it.

 

[Iron_Madrigal]

Yeah, I agree with Devin on both of those movies. Bad examples, Bran-El.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

Yeah, I agree with Devin on both of those movies. Bad examples, Bran-El.

You may not like them but if MOS gets similar reviews to both those movies it will be a success.

 

[BatLobster]

Devin's reviews of all the Batman films are pretty lame.

He bashes BB and TDK for being to self-important, then goes after TDKR for not being political enough. He's a grade A d-bag. He has points here and there- I just dislike his personality, or at least his critic "persona". He's as pretentious as it gets when it comes to genre films...especially when he's criticizing them for being pretentious.

To me he'll forever be known as the guy who got K.O.'d by an upcoming filmmaker he was harsh on:

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lawl

 

[Bran-El]

Yeah, I agree with Devin on both of those movies. Bad examples, Bran-El.

To each his own. I can't prevent worshiping at Devin's alter.

 

[shauner111]

I disagree with Devin 100 percent on both. ST:ID was awesome and I love TDKR. Ill never read a thing he says unless one of you guys throw his garbage into one of these threads.

 

[LordofhouseEl]

It must suck for I see spidey didn't she say the only critics opinion she valued was this ******* devins I bet that has killed her hype.

 

[Glassjaw]

It must suck for I see spidey didn't she say the only critics opinion she valued was this ******* devins I bet that has killed her hype.

I'm sure she'll make note of his review when its out, but above that she's said no review or opinion will have any bearing on her own. I know what you mean though, when you're hyped for something you want the whole world with you on it.

 

[JangoNate]

I disagree with Devin 100 percent on both. ST:ID was awesome and I love TDKR. Ill never read a thing he says unless one of you guys throw his garbage into one of these threads.

I agree with YOU and so does the majority. ST:ID is this year's movie to beat at the moment.

 

[Kandor50]

Over on The Playlist (an indie movie blog that is pretty solid) they say Man of Steel just missed their cut of their list for The Best Movies of 2013 So Far. They don't go into detail because of the embargo, but they seemed to really like it. They also didn't put any other blockbuster on the list, so that gives you an idea of their thought process.

Keep in mind, this is a site that specializes in independent cinema, so they tend to grade blockbusters harder than some critics. The fact that they even considered it for their list is a good sign, in my opinion. Here is what they said: http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplayl...13-so-far-20130604?page=4#blogPostHeaderPanel

 

[Moridin]

That doesn't make much sense tho. If the vast majority of buzz is thru the roof, why wouldn't you want to get that word of mouth going amongst normies? THAT would maximize their money.

Sure, viewings and word of mouth after the release will give the film some legs - but none of that does much for the all-holy opening weekend numbers that so much relies on in this business.

- Jow

I might be wrong but I think most reviews are embargoed until early in the week of release. That way word of mouth pops up at the right time to catch most peoples attention - rolling right into the weekend of release.

Most people don't plan very far a head when going to the cinema, if I had to guess it'd be day of, or at most a few days.

IIRC, GL was embargoed pretty much right up to release day. So the writing was on the wall right there. As long as MoS's reviews are out by next Monday/Tuesday, there's no reason to worry

Devin Faraci review examples:


" A totally stupid movie, STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS falls apart as it goes, raining debris as it implodes like a building being demolished." - Star Trek Into Darkness

" The whole movie feels so like a series of contradictions - bloated and long yet rushed, deeply serious yet utterly silly, politically minded yet ultimately vapid - that being both wildly entertaining and a bad movie would be exactly right for it." - The Dark Knight Rises

...So I'm not gonna worry about him.

Actually, while I still enjoy it, I think "bloated & long, yet still rushed" is an accurate discription of TDKR.

I also enjoyed STID, but thought it was kind of weak writing wise. Cast & director saved that one.

I've seen Faraci mentioned on these boards before, don't think I've read his reviews though.

 

[Tra-El]

Keep in mind, this is a site that specializes in independent cinema, so they tend to grade blockbusters harder than some critics. The fact that they even considered it for their list is a good sign, in my opinion. Here is what they said: http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplayl...13-so-far-20130604?page=4#blogPostHeaderPanel

Here's the snippet of their Man of Steel comment:

And lest we break embargo, we won’t write any major details, but Zack Snyder’s “Man Of Steel,” (impressive and yet imperfect) is certainly is strong enough to merit inclusion here (note the sole blockbuster on this list).

Like Kandor said, very encouraging as they are mostly an independent critic circuit. Good to see they held Man of Steel in high regard regardless of just missing the cut.

 

[ghoulstock]

Devin Faraci occasionally makes a good point or two, but he always derails himself with his constant troll-baiting. He goes out of his way to anger people, and he takes glee in this. I have yet to find any real opinion of his regarding MOS, and I think the embargo he's talking about might refer to World War Z actually, but who knows. He's a big fan of Snyder (he gave Watchmen 4 stars I believe), whereas he is NOT a big fan of Nolan, so the combo of the two of them might be throwing his game off. That said, there's an amusing twitter devoted to "translating" all the annoying crap he says: https://***********/FaraciTranslate

 

[moviefan!]

So this is VERY interesting!

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplayl...13-so-far-20130604?page=4#blogPostHeaderPanel

Indiewire released their BEST movies of 2013 of now

They start by first saying:

THESE ARE THE MOVIES ALREADY RELEASED AS OF DATE

, if we’re honest, a little so-so, with the blockbuster hopefuls ranging from the slightly disappointing to the outright dire (“Star Trek Into Darkness,” “The Great Gatsby,” “Pain & Gain,” “After Earth,” “Oblivion,” with “Iron Man 3” probably proving the best of the bunch to date.)


Then the list of best RELEASED movies is:

Stories we Tell
No
Upstream Color
Before Midnight
Act of Killing
Mud
Frances Ha
The Kings of Summer
Sightseers
The Place Beyond the Vines
Beyond the Hills
Behind the Candelabra


Then they move to the TO BE RELEASED but best from what they have already seen in SCREENERS

List is:

Aint them bodies Saint
Inside Llewn Davis
The Past
Wadjda
Blue is the warmest color
Hide your smiling faces
Bluebird
Short Term 12
Prince Avalanche


and then they list the honorable mentions which JUST missed the cut of ALL movies released and unreleased which includes this one of notice:

And lest we break embargo, we won’t write any major details, but Zack Snyder’s “Man Of Steel,” (impressive and yet imperfect) is certainly is strong enough to merit inclusion here (note the sole blockbuster on this list).

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

Found this as a forum: I don't know if it was just because I was hyped up to see it, but I would rate it a 10/10.

Like a Batman Begins and Dark Knight mixed into one movie. M. Shannon as Zod was the perfect choice. He k!lled it.

Can't wait till next week to watch it again. Then I can really sit there and absorb the movie."



Also, Cosmo said the action was in the same calibre as the DC animated stuff, which I think is VERY top notch

 

[ThreadPool]

Welp. I'm only going to talk about Faraci this last time. Just because I've decided to largely ignore people like him. By that I mean, those who let their prejudices almost wholly guide their critiques.
I don't get people like him. If a movie is good or does something well, I will give it credit.
I am one of those people that enjoys a CBM done from a more serious angle. That's just me. Does it mean I will discredit The Avengers because it wasn't quite my cup of tea? Hell no! That movie accomplished things that were thought to be totally impossible. They put all of those heroes in one movie with mostly great dialogue and action. I'll criticize it for it's lack of scale, but it still very good.
We get it, Devin. You want a CBM with a higher "camp" factor. Don't crap on something because it isn't what you want.
And this continued notion that Nolan makes, "self-important" and ,"pretentious" movies is ridiculous. Wow. Really? It takes itself serious so it's pretentious? The irony produced by statements like must be entirely lost on people like that.
You don't see that you're now becoming that which you claim to hate?!

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

I say, it's best to not have any prejudices at all.

That being said, as a comics fan, this looks unbelievable.

 

[Compi716]

Wow, I love seeing all the Devin bashing. This is going to be like the response to the TDKR reviews all over again. There will be critics who don't like the movie. That doesn't make their opinions any less valid than yours.

For those who say that Devin never has anything positive to say, or whatever the argument is, here are his previous comments on MOS:

Combine this with the other trailers leading up to it, it seems all but assured that Man of Steel is going to be one of the best movies of the summer, if not the best. (...) Who would have thought a Superman movie would look to be this good? Here's to hoping Zack Snyder has made a movie that holds up to the trailers.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

^ Devin's practically admitting to not caring for Superman, though

 

[davejames]

Much like with Batman Begins, I have a feeling the reaction to MOS will ultimately come down to how much people like the grittier tone and idea of sitting through another origin story.

Some problem have no problem with either one of those, and will be riveted by every second... and some are just naturally going to be turned off by the idea, and will as a result find the story either too serious, too dull, or too slow to get to "the good stuff".

 

[BatLobster]

I don't bash Devin because his opinions scare me or are different than mine. I just plain dislike him, and I have little respect for him because he is unable or unwilling to acknowledge that there are other valid ways to do superhero films besides his preferred tone.

I also get the impression that he gets off on being contrarian and getting people riled up. He's just got a snarky way about him that is bound to rub people the wrong way.

 

[king666]

To me he'll forever be known as the guy who got K.O.'d by an upcoming filmmaker he was harsh on:

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lawl

OMG this made my day

I don't bash Devin because his opinions scare me or are different than mine. I just plain dislike him.

This.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

I don't bash Devin because his opinions scare me or are different than mine. I just plain dislike him, and I have little respect for him because he is unable or unwilling to acknowledge that there are other valid ways to do superhero films besides his preferred tone.

I also get the impression that he gets off on being contrarian and getting people riled up. He's just got a snarky way about him that is bound to rub people the wrong way.

His tweets make him look like a D-bag. I don't know him, so I can't say if he is or not but his twitter makes him look like one.

 

[BatLobster]

OMG this made my day

Glad you enjoyed

His tweets make him look like a D-bag. I don't know him, so I can't say if he is or not but his twitter makes him look like one.

I think you can tell a lot about a person by the way they tweet, heh. But obviously, I have no idea how he is as a human being- just as the person he presents himself as, which is Devin Faraci: Film Critic and Blogger. And that guy can be a very outspoken, but is often a real smarmy a-hole about it.

It's no different than people bashing Jett from Batman-on-Film. I happen to have met him and he's a pretty solid guy in real life. But I can see why his internet persona would rub some the wrong way.