Apocalypse X-Men Apocalypse News and Discussion - Part 2

[scatterax]

Do you guys think either sabertooth or sinister have a shot of showing up as supporting villains in this? Or a revised juggernaught for that matter?

 

[xrs13]

Do you guys think either sabertooth or sinister have a shot of showing up as supporting villains in this? Or a revised juggernaught for that matter?

You know, I hadn't really thought about sabertooth but I suppose with the whole wolverine origins being changed, he may be a part of Mystiques new brotherhood and have that as a connection to wolverine rather than Weapon X.

It would be cool if sinister played a role in this, and I think he makes the most sense to take part in it out of all the villains. Whether that is as a horseman or a mastermind working with Apoc before getting his own shot at being a villain.

Juggernaut is a bit of a weird one, Singer said that he felt the character was done in regards to using him in DOFP so I dont see a reason why he would bring him in now. Further down the line he may as a separate villain but I doubt it in Apocalypse

 

[marvelrobbins]

SInce Deadpool has a february 12 2016 release date i think it's moving
forward.

As for Sabretooth returning who knows.

If there Is a brotherhood In Apocalypse who knows if it would be mystique's
or magneto's.

 

[psylockolussus]

You can't be serious. The actors will be so old by then, and will have almost certainly moved on. If we're lucky, Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen will still be alive, and perhaps they can be involved, but c'mon, this is beyond wishful thinking.

Don't worry that was just my "ideal" wish list. I wasn't trying to say that Fox should follow that, just a fanboy's ideal wish list. And hello there's like no way, they could do 3 films with New Mutants/X-Factor/X-Force, thats gonna oversaturate the franchise.

Though I want this current series to last long until 2025. You know 25 years since X1. And even if I want the OT cast to appear in the 2025 X-Men movie, it doesn't mean I want Ian McKellen to be included in that film. Though I feel like there's a way to keep the older actors like Ian and Patrick to keep appearing in the films for the next decade... they could film their scenes wayyyy ahead of time if they want those actors to appear in more films.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Closing the series? Things are just getting started again. Fox's series is building momentum.

Exactly. May the X-Franchise live long and prosperous under Fox

So is dead pool moving forward or not?

I'd says it's very likely

I'm using a tablet, so I cannot quote long posts, so this comment is directed to Cyclopsisright:

Its not the same thing, Tony's story moves forward from Avengers to his solo film and we dont know hiis end game yet. With more 1st Class films, they are telling stories that already happened, basically a prequel. So yes its less exciting if what we saw in the altered future is really the end game for the Ot characters and if they are merely telling stories that occured inbetween 1973 and 2023.

But we haven't seen those stories, we don't know the details AND due to time travel they're now different and not the same. The end game for Cyke for example is him in the mansion in 2023. That's all we know, he could've left the X-Men and came back, murdered Magneto, met Corsair, fathered Cable ect...

 

[Iceman]

Do you guys think either sabertooth or sinister have a shot of showing up as supporting villains in this? Or a revised juggernaught for that matter?

Sinister possibly, and if so maybe more a cameo than a supporting character.

 

[HIA]

Closing the series? Things are just getting started again. Fox's series is building momentum.

yeah, with Fox signing almost a whole new cast now with young Cyclops, Jean, Storm, Kurt.... they could do as many movies as they want. And they even have another cast, the older one, so the possibilities are endless.

I wouldnt be surprised if Fox even makes a whole new trilogy with the upcoming young X-Men.

 

[SuperT]

Do you guys think either sabertooth or sinister have a shot of showing up as supporting villains in this? Or a revised juggernaught for that matter?

I would LOVE to have Liev back as Sabretooth. He was one of the only truly great things about Origins.

 

[kasjan]

That was just Victor Creed, still no wild Sabretooth.

 

[The Original Bamfer]

Do you guys think either sabertooth or sinister have a shot of showing up as supporting villains in this? Or a revised juggernaught for that matter?

I'm thinking Cain is a huge possibility.

(Pun punintended!)

 

[GuestStar2004]

they won't bring sabertooth back because they already have 2 characters technically the same character and it will be a case of do you acknowledge the origins version or ignore it and if you acknowledge it then you have to explain it all

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Technically Origins doesn't happen (1979 or 83) since the timeline changed in 1973. They could have Liev back even to redo the character in a different set of circumstances

 

[HIA]

they can use the same actor without the need to explain anything. The character is alive somewhere in America, so.... what does it need to be explained?

Fox will use Ryan Reyonolds again, even if they ignore that movie, so they u secan many Origins actors if they want it. Its a new reality, the characters exist, so no real problem here.

 

[The Original Bamfer]

Yep. And while the future has been changed and a million things can be altered, I imagine some will be the same or similar. Obviously Xavier's going to find his X-Men, so why wouldn't Magneto find his Brotherhood? It's likely he'll run into Sabes again, but I wouldn't mind if it's not this movie. People would expect some kind of tie-in with Logan, and we already have familial relationships in this movie with Mystique/Nightcrawler and Magneto/Quicksilver/Etc. I think that's enough. But if they have to throw another bloodline in (or stepline?) I would want Charles/Juggernaut. At the very least, to see a decent interpretation of the character. And if they ever want to go into back story (which they wouldn't need to in this one,) I have some pretty cool ideas that tie-in to Xavier.

 

[Pauln6]

They have already suggested that DOFP could have effected when certain characters were born. I assume this is directed specifically at Warren Worthington III, but perhaps others as well, to bring everyone in-line. Do not forget that DOFP was a soft-reboot, so they are going to be changing the rules a bit along the way, as all reboots do.

Sure, if they want to grow a job lot in Sinister's lab but if they're just going to introduce them one at a time and expect us to swallow that wibbly wobbly timey wimey, then that's lame.

 

[SuperT]

they won't bring sabertooth back because they already have 2 characters technically the same character and it will be a case of do you acknowledge the origins version or ignore it and if you acknowledge it then you have to explain it all

They can have Liev back and not have to explain a single thing. Everything that happened post-1973 in Origins is now erased and Liev as Creed existed before those changes anyway so there you go.

That was just Victor Creed, still no wild Sabretooth.

 

[Donut]

One thing for sure is. The characters we see at the end of DOFP cant die now in any movies before DOFP

 

[scatterax]

They can have Liev back and not have to explain a single thing. Everything that happened post-1973 in Origins is now erased and Liev as Creed existed before those changes anyway so there you go.

this and he can still have his memories with wolverine.

Plus he's just gotten acclaim as Ray Donavan so he could bring in his new fans.

 

[x-er]

One thing for sure is. The characters we see at the end of DOFP cant die now in any movies before DOFP

How is that for sure?
There could be countless ways to have them in 2023 even if they've previously died.

There's reincarnation (Jean Grey), cloning (Sinister), reanimation (Apocalypse, I think), time travel (Bishop/Cable bringing someone forward in time and then back to their original time, where they die), and new realities/dimensions (Scarlet Witch & other muties).

 

[GuestStar2004]

ain't people gonna expect them to connect the dots to X1 sabertooth then?

i can't see them trying to explain that in apocalypse tbh

 

[x-er]

And even without deaths, I think they stil thrill audiences effectively. Think, for example, when Kitty gets stabbed by Wolverine or when Mystique gets the bullet pulled out of her leg by Magneto. That was pretty intense, not because of the death, but more because of the pain the character went through. So even if Fox felt restricted to killing none of the OT characters, they can still torture them for films tocome.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

One thing for sure is. The characters we see at the end of DOFP cant die now in any movies before DOFP

That's pretty much the only thing certain. That and they'll be in the mansion.

They could technically die and come back, comic characters almost make a living out of that habit

 

[SuperT]

ain't people gonna expect them to connect the dots to X1 sabertooth then?

They don't need to connect the dots to X1 Sabretooth since that movie is now pretty irrelevant at this point...

 

[Donut]

How is that for sure?
There could be countless ways to have them in 2023 even if they've previously died.

There's reincarnation (Jean Grey), cloning (Sinister), reanimation (Apocalypse, I think), time travel (Bishop/Cable bringing someone forward in time and then back to their original time, where they die), and new realities/dimensions (Scarlet Witch & other muties).

I guess they can still die. But the suspense will be gone. Because the audiences know they will be back at one point. They still got plenty of characters 2 kill off though & avoid those certain ones

 

[Smilodon]

That can be said about any other superhero film though. Are Age of Ultron or Dawn of Justice going to be any less suspenseful or interesting because we know Cap and Iron Man and Thor and Batman and Superman and Wonder Woman are going to be back for sequels?

Stories can be plenty interesting and or suspenseful without having the fear of death, and having characters killed off doesn't necessarily make the story any better either.