Apocalypse X-Men Apocalypse News and Discussion - Part 2

[JP]

This is déjà vu from when everyone freaked out because the FC actors were 100% being sidelined for the OT cast in Days of Future Past. LOL.

 

[BoredGuy]

"Front and center" doesn't mean "they'll have some storyline"

it means it'll be "front and center"

not overreacting, that's a clear cut statement about something I was really hoping wouldn't happen.
I was excited for the first time since X2, since we would finally be getting an epic story about a different villain
instead, I'll have to see the same angsty, pretty people on screen for a good chunk of yet another movie.

and personally, I was upset the OT actors were sidelined for the FC cast in the film, would've loved if it went the other way

 

[Big V]

Mystique is going to be a horseman, most likely. I think that would be cool, and reminds me of Apocalypse's first appearance on the Animated Series (though she was not a horseman then, but more of a side-kick). Also, J-Law is far too popular for Fox to not bring back. However, this may be her last ride for a while, which I would be fine with.

As for Magneto, he's awesome, and so is Fassbender. I certainly would not mind a break, but I do not think they need to cut him out entirely. Would be interesting to see him work along side Apocalypse at first, but then realize that Apocalypse is mad, and help the X-Men in the end. No problem with that.

 

[JP]

"Front and center" doesn't mean "they'll have some storyline"

it means it'll be "front and center"

not overreacting, that's a clear cut statement about something I was really hoping wouldn't happen.
I was excited for the first time since X2, since we would finally be getting an epic story about a different villain
instead, I'll have to see the same angsty, pretty people on screen for a good chunk of yet another movie.

The film is called X-MEN: APOCALYPSE not X-MEN: MAGNETO + MYSTIQUE.


It's just amusing to me. These same exact freakouts before First Class.. and Before Days of Future Past. We will absolutely never get to a point where we just trust Singer and co. and get excited over a film. There just always has to be something.

 

[BoredGuy]

exactly
so why should they be "front and center"???

and for me, my own disappointment before FC was justified, that movie sucked

 

[JP]

So now I see all these headlines from blogs: "X-Men: Apocalypse will Center on Romance Between Magneto and Mystique"

But, a few weeks ago Kinberg gave an interview and all the headlines read: "X-Men: Apocalypse will Center on Beast/Mystique Relationship"

And before that Kinberg gave another interview, and the headlines read: "X-Men: Apocalypse to Conclude First Class Trilogy; Focus on Xavier and Magneto".

And before that: "X-Men: Apocalypse to Introduce Younger Versions of Familiar Characters; Focus on Origins of Original Team"


So, which is it, internet?

 

[Super Jim]

One thing that seems obvious, and that I've been expecting is Mystique and Noghtcrawler's relationship. If a young Nightcrawler is in this movie (and it would be stupid for him not to be) then you have to explore the mommy/son piece.

But that also means exploring who Kurt's father is. If it is Azazel (and it better be Fox!) then why did that happen? It seems to me that after Mystique left with Erik (back in 1963) that likely they developed a relationship. That when he left (for Dallas) and didn't come back (was put in prison) thta either Mystique was forced, tricked or fell into the arms of Azazel.

And since Azazel is dead, the best way to get into this is with Kurt being in the movie, and/or by having dialog between Mystique and Erik. Personally, I would very much like to see this explored.

Now this idea of Mystique and Beast doesn't make any sense. Look, she left the X-Men. She made her choice and it wasn't Beast. She chose Erik and that's that. Effectively there is no "relationship" between her and Beast, so why put any story time into that? What are they going to do? Have them talk about what if? That would be beyond stupid!!!!!

But I do agree with you guys that they need to focus on Professor X finding them, and bringing them to the mansion to be taught how to use their powers. We need to see Scott, Jean and Ororo (and hopefully Kurt) and see them develop. That's where the main focus should be!

Also, this idea that Magneto would align himself with Apocalypse is stupid. That just better not happen. I won't mind if Mystique joins back up with Erik in a Brotherhood, or if their scenes together are just a visit where all of this comes out, meaning they aren't on the same team. After DoFP these two should be separate.

Also, I really don't want to see either Mystique and/or Magneto as Horsemen. It should be either Wolverine or Archangel, and that's it. The other three should be no names, in a sense...

But yes, focus on Scott, Jean and Ororo!!!!!

 

[BMM]

Pretty much non-news. Of course, Magneto and Mystique are going to be front and center. That doesn't mean Apocalypse won't be either. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

 

[Loki882]

Knee-jerk pessimism from fans, what else is new?

 

[Loki882]

So now I see all these headlines from blogs: "X-Men: Apocalypse will Center on Romance Between Magneto and Mystique"

But, a few weeks ago Kinberg gave an interview and all the headlines read: "X-Men: Apocalypse will Center on Beast/Mystique Relationship"

And before that Kinberg gave another interview, and the headlines read: "X-Men: Apocalypse to Conclude First Class Trilogy; Focus on Xavier and Magneto".

And before that: "X-Men: Apocalypse to Introduce Younger Versions of Familiar Characters; Focus on Origins of Original Team"


So, which is it, internet?

There are always a bunch of contradicting rumors/reports as to what these movies will be about. It makes fans knee-jerk overreactions even more ridiculous. Because they end up doing so about six different times when six different rumors come out.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Typical for SHH.

Anyone who thought Xavier,magneto,and Mystique were not going to be major players In Apocalypse were fooling themselves.Apart from Hugh Jackman
Michael Fassbender and Jennifer Lawrence are the stars In the cast.Of course they will play a key role In film.

Who knows how big cyclops,Jean,and storm roles will be In APocalypse.In DOFP the focus was more on Xavier and Magneto than Wolverine.

Wolverine's role In APocalypse may mainly be as horseman.Plus Jackman doesn't seem to mind if he has smaller role.

It's easy to figure out how things will go.A few people here will be postive while others will say how badly they are doing film.

 

[JP]

There are always a bunch of contradicting rumors/reports as to what these movies will be about. It makes fans knee-jerk overreactions even more ridiculous. Because they end up doing so about six different times when six different rumors come out.

Yeah, and each new detail becomes such a focus that it seems our brains forget EVERYTHING we've heard previously. Amusing.

 

[Loki882]

Plus this is the conclusion of the trilogy that started in FC. So expecting that Xavier, Magneto, and Mystique weren't going to play big roles was foolish since the previous two films were focused around that dynamic. That doesn't mean that others won't get stuff to do as well. Those options are not mutually exclusive.

 

[psylockolussus]

I get the complaints, because I think ideally fans what a x-Men movie that focuses on the actual X-Men group, not just Logan, Charles and villains who already got their due and who already apeared in 5 movies.

I also get that this supposed to be the trilogy of the First Class 4, but I think people would just be more happy if the films are more front and center to the actual X-Men team.

 

[BoredGuy]

^^ precisely

I'm just so f'ing tired of Magneto and Mystique
If another "trilogy" folows these films, I hope those two get a good 3 movie break, minimum

 

[Sun_Down]

Eh, this isn't really news. They're the two biggest stars in the film, so naturally they'll get some love. Doesn't mean the movie will be a rom-com or anything.

After delivering DoFP (my favorite X-Men movie and possibly favorite CBM), I am more than willing to wait and see before I start playing the victim card over a very vague and nondescript quote.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

It being about Erick and Raven isn't news. They were "front and center" in First Class and Days of Future Past.

The real thing to take from this? Lawrence renegotiating her X-Men contract - a bit made as an off-hand remark. For the longest time, the word was she (and especially Fassbender) were out of there the moment their deals were up. If they can manage to keep her around, that is a major coup.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Don't bet On that especilly with report lawrence reneogating her X-Men deal.

Magneto is top X-Men villain and with trilogy now erased they are bound to have magneto VS X-Men again.

 

[marvelrobbins]

It being about Erick and Raven isn't news. They were "front and center" in First Class and Days of Future Past.

The real thing to take from this? Lawrence renegotiating her X-Men contract - a bit made as an off-hand remark. For the longest time, the word was she (and especially Fassbender) were out of there the moment their deals were up. If they can manage to keep her around, that is a major coup.

Agreed.

 

[psylockolussus]

I wouldnt be surprised if Jennifer Lawrence signs up for a 4th film. I actually think all X-Men cast members - past and present, are willing to comeback.

Edit, the news for me is them being a couple or love interest to each otherand I just dont want that.

 

[SuperT]

Did people seriously think Magneto and Mystique weren't going to be front and center in Apocalypse along with Beast and Xavier? As JP so wisely put it, them being front and center and Apocalypse still being the main villain aren't mutually exclusive things...

The real thing to take from this? Lawrence renegotiating her X-Men contract - a bit made as an off-hand remark. For the longest time, the word was she (and especially Fassbender) were out of there the moment their deals were up. If they can manage to keep her around, that is a major coup.

That definitely caught my eye as well since everyone was so sure she would leave without any questions. If Fox snags her with a great contract again the Mystique spin-off(s) talked about months back could certainly be a reality! Exciting!

They'd be dumb to let Lawrence and Fassbender go without putting up more money.

 

[The Original Bamfer]

I would think, just from a story standpoint, that Raven wouldn't be all that interested in Erik after the events of DoFP. It'd make more sense for her to have something with Beast again. But with Fassbender being a more popular actor (and Magneto being a more pivotal character - especially in the films,) I wouldn't be shocked to see them strike something up again.

 

[SuperT]

I would think, just from a story standpoint, that Raven wouldn't be all that interested in Erik after the events of DoFP. It'd make more sense for her to have something with Beast again. But with Fassbender being a more popular actor (and Magneto being a more pivotal character - especially in the films,) I wouldn't be shocked to see them strike something up again.

Mystique is a character that's always about what's best for her own and other mutants survival. Even after the events of DOFP it would not be surprising for her to team up with Magneto again in some capacity if it benefits her motives.

 

[BoredGuy]

you can't spend time on all these things they've mentioned and still fully devlop everything, you just can't, that was a huge problem with DOFP I thought, too much time dedicated to one or two characters at the expense of everyone else (just like they did with Wolverine in the early films) between the beast/mystique, xavier/mystique, and magneto/mystique relationships (goddam jennifer lawrence) the intro of young Cyke, Jean, and Storm, and the addition of a millenia-old super-villain who distorts four other characters into super-villains (with all the pain and suffering and emotional turmoil that should be attached to being a horseman) the movie either has to be 4 hours long, or somebody, probably a lot of characters, will be underdeveloped. Can it all be fit into one film? yes. Will it all be done well? doubtful. just my belief on the sitch.

 

[marvelrobbins]

It was heavily hinted In X-Men and X2 that Magneto and Mystique were couple.

It has been hinted even though the timeline of non-FC films are out the window some things will be moving to "Staus Quo"

I wouldn't be shocked if Mystique is turned into horseman and that causes xavier and Magneto to work together against Apocalypse.And after that
Mystique reunites on Magneto's side as his right hand/lover

It's likely too something happens In APocalypse to put Nicholas Hoult's beast on road to be like Kelsey Grammer's version seen at end of DOFP where he accepts his appearance and doesn't hide.

We too are still waiting to see if there going to be tie to deadpool film.Will
Apocalypse be introduction of Channing Tatum of Gambit.And will we see a bald Mcavoy as Xavier In APocalypse.As well as will Nightcrawler make the cut of characters.