The Dark Knight Rises You Have My Permission To Lounge - Part 8

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I'm curious to see if Matt Reeves can pull a better performance out of Affleck (assuming he plays the part, of course).

I think Gadot is average as an actress, but Patty Jenkins clearly got something quite special out of her for Wonder Woman.
 
The film was underwhelming. I wouldn't say it sucked, necessarily. It was just disappointing, which is worse because at least a sucky movie, you walk away and forget about it. Over a year later and people are still talking about BvS and what went wrong with it. To me, that means people wanted it to be good.
No, it was terrible across the board. It's a bad movie all around.
 
BvS lived up to my hype.
That doesn't mean anything. Your hype could mean something as simple as seeing Batman's sculpted veins on the big screen.

People !@#$ about the smallest things and when you spend days. Weeks. Years on end in forums talking about every little detail before the film is out then of course it has a very high percentage of not meeting those expectations.

It's almost as if we are in a discussion forum. So baffling, right?

BvS was much more then your typical vs film.

Unfortunately, it wasn't a court room drama, as the title suggested. It might've been more entertaining that way.

It gave us lots of unexpected things the blew me away. Fans talk about this and this should happen and when it doesnt then fans cry that the filmmakers dont have an idea. BS. Its fans that want it ALL by the numbers. Film makers are there to give us something new but still give us the character that we know and love. They can hopefully explore sides of the character that are not really explored in other film versions.

Yes. DCEU is the first time filmmakers have gone against fan expectations.

Hilarious. Filmmakers have been altering things since the days of Burton. Raimi changed things. Nolan changed things. Feige changed things. Singer changed things. There were tiny corners of backlash. But in general, fans have come to accept them. Because they had good ideas in good movies.

BvS had bad ideas in a terrible movie. So you should reduce your favorite past time, strawmanning. It's not good for you.

Batman and Superman have been explored and developed in many different ways in nearly 80 years of publication and many many times in film and television.

And guess what? The good explorations stuck around. Such as giving Batman a no kill rule. And placing him in Gotham instead of New York City. The bad explorations that make the character terrible went away.

Guess where Snyder's murderman will go?

Finding new ways in film to explore a character like Batman is easy. Batman is a much more flexable to tell many different sides of him than Superman.

And yet Snyder still managed to screw it up.

Superman is very much the same in all versions of tv and film.

This is the most outrageously erroneous statement made in these forums in quite some time.

You are wrong.

So when he was shown as he was presented in a massive scale film like BvS then of course people will lose their minds because the public havent seen many different versions of Superman on film before.

They certainly had not seen a Superman as uninteresting as the one presented in BvS before. Oh wait, my bad, they did see MOS.

BvS introduced a new Batman. We just had a Batman origin film not too long ago and this Batman needed a different approach. Its a different Batman but most of details are still the same. We got a mini origin in BvS anyway for the 1% who dont know anything about BW's motivation.

New doesn't automatically mean good.
 
This is the most outrageously erroneous statement made in these forums in quite some time.

You are wrong.
That nonsense is repeated by Superman detractors everywhere, it's baffling to no end.
 
I’m honestly surprised batfreakforever frequents this part of the site so often. especially considering how much the overall consensus of BvS here differs from his.
 
I'm not surprised he comes to this place. I frequent this place, and I really like the Amazing Spider-Man movies, while to almost everyone else they are trash best erased from history, or just as memorable as the passing sound of fart.

I'm surprised he still bothers to defend BvS in this lounge where it's unanimous that we hate that bucket of rust for a film.
 
Agreed with you guys. I also don't understand why some insist on the "BvS was just so original" thing... Like, was it? We all pretty much guessed the plot beat for beat back in '14 or '15.

"Bruce will be angry about Metropolis battle and gear up to bring Superman down. Partially fuelled by Luthor, who'll be manipulating things behind the scenes and fostering an anti-Superman sentiment. Superman won't like Batman's methods and try to bring him down. Lois will be investigating Lex. (Rumour that Doomsday's in it hits). Doomsday, so soon? Why? How? Gee, if Lex gets access to Zod's body, maybe he could use the Scout Ship to transform him! Wait, there's a Wonder Woman cameo? Maybe she flirts with Bruce and they all team up at the end?"

This is literally what the BvS boards were all about for three years. What we didn't guess (well...) was how poorly executed it would all be.
 
I REEEEEAAAALLLYYYY wanted this movie to be free of that stupid killing machine, then that trailer showing him hit. The worst I feel about regarding this fiasco is trusting Affleck, Terrio, and Eisenberg.
 
Agreed with you guys. I also don't understand why some insist on the "BvS was just so original" thing... Like, was it? We all pretty much guessed the plot beat for beat back in '14 or '15.

"Bruce will be angry about Metropolis battle and gear up to bring Superman down. Partially fuelled by Luthor, who'll be manipulating things behind the scenes and fostering an anti-Superman sentiment. Superman won't like Batman's methods and try to bring him down. Lois will be investigating Lex. (Rumour that Doomsday's in it hits). Doomsday, so soon? Why? How? Gee, if Lex gets access to Zod's body, maybe he could use the Scout Ship to transform him! Wait, there's a Wonder Woman cameo? Maybe she flirts with Bruce and they all team up at the end?"

This is literally what the BvS boards were all about for three years. What we didn't guess (well...) was how poorly executed it would all be.

Never have I had such high hopes dashed in the most disappointing of ways

its a miracle in itself that I'm even looking forward to the next installment, but WB took the necessary steps in making that happen, I will give them that much.
 
No, it was terrible across the board. It's a bad movie all around.

I disagree. At the very least (!), visually, it was excellent. Say what you want about Snyder's obsession with destruction porn (I think of him as an artistic Michael Bay), but man, he can make a movie look fabulous. That's even when the scenes don't make sense, i.e. Superman hovering above the family on the roof
 
I disagree. At the very least (!), visually, it was excellent. Say what you want about Snyder's obsession with destruction porn (I think of him as an artistic Michael Bay), but man, he can make a movie look fabulous. That's even when the scenes don't make sense, i.e. Superman hovering above the family on the roof

It's just too bad he couldn't afford more than one light bulb though.
 
I disagree. At the very least (!), visually, it was excellent. Say what you want about Snyder's obsession with destruction porn (I think of him as an artistic Michael Bay), but man, he can make a movie look fabulous. That's even when the scenes don't make sense, i.e. Superman hovering above the family on the roof
There were some good shots, but i actually thought most of the film looked terrible. The dark lighting, ashy color palette, bad CGI in many scenes, especially the big battle at the end which was dreadful.
 
It's just too bad he couldn't afford more than one light bulb though.

Ha! Nicely put. The monochrome scheme did become irksome at the end but how much colour variation can you have during a thunderstorm?
 
I disagree. At the very least (!), visually, it was excellent. Say what you want about Snyder's obsession with destruction porn (I think of him as an artistic Michael Bay), but man, he can make a movie look fabulous. That's even when the scenes don't make sense, i.e. Superman hovering above the family on the roof
Eh, have you watched the doomsday battle? Collect everything wrong about movies today visually. The video game physics, cartoony flame and smoke physics, bad filtering, too much green screen, combine them, stew them in piss, and you get the doomsday battle.
 
Eh, have you watched the doomsday battle? Collect everything wrong about movies today visually. The video game physics, cartoony flame and smoke physics, bad filtering, too much green screen, combine them, stew them in piss, and you get the doomsday battle.

Oh yeah, for sure. The entire battle was the end of MoS on a diet. That said, the film did still have good solitary shots, like Superman in the air as I mentioned or Batman on the ceiling when the cop spots him.
 
So I was watching the trailer for the Pacific Rim sequel on youtube, this is the second top post.

To the People who showed anger towards man of steel fights
What about this?

One would think still being hung on criticism from four years ago would mean understanding the crux of the argument. Talk about peddling a strawman for nearly half a decade.
 
In regards to that comment, I'll use this image.
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Y'all see the new Justice League trailer? I really liked how it started. Then it turned into the worst looking movie of the year. If that's Aquaman's personality, then I'm not even interested in his solo film. So unbelievably corny. This looks like one giant video game, again.

God please, end this shared universe nonsense. I don't care if they plan on using Darkseid in a sequel, just END it already. Have Vaughn or whoever make a proper Superman movie to give that cast a decent send off. Reeves can take Batman in a completely different direction. Let Jenkins make her Wonder Woman sequel. Throw every other character in a dumpster fire cuz this looks horrible.

I can't believe I MAY skip a new film with Batman in it.
 
Video games look better. Aquaman feels like I said once before; he feels like a character from a 90s highschool film or sitcom.

I have some hopes that this will be at least entertaining, obviously way below the level of good, but if it could successfully entertain me it will be enough for me.
 
it looks fun. I wanted a shift in tone from the last movie we got and it appears that at least I won't leave feeling like I just sat through Requiem for a Dream. So for that reason alone, I'm looking forward to it.
 
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Affleck looks like hell in the reshoots, and the hair piece looks noticeable for the first time.
 
He looks like raw hotdog in the reshoots.
 
Y'all see the new Justice League trailer? I really liked how it started. Then it turned into the worst looking movie of the year. If that's Aquaman's personality, then I'm not even interested in his solo film. So unbelievably corny. This looks like one giant video game, again.

God please, end this shared universe nonsense. I don't care if they plan on using Darkseid in a sequel, just END it already. Have Vaughn or whoever make a proper Superman movie to give that cast a decent send off. Reeves can take Batman in a completely different direction. Let Jenkins make her Wonder Woman sequel. Throw every other character in a dumpster fire cuz this looks horrible.

I can't believe I MAY skip a new film with Batman in it.

Bro, I saw the second trailer for JL in IMAX when I went to see Dunkirk and I nearly threw up in my chair. If I thought MoS gave me a headache...there's no way I'm seeing JL. It looks like a blurry, incomprehensible mess.
 
Yeah I saw it at a Dunkirk screening too, and it was pathetic. This new one at least starts off promising but then it goes downhill from there. The shift in tone is ridiculous.
 
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