BvS All Things Superman and Batman: An Open Discussion - - - - Part 13

[Kal-El.9859]

I step away for a minute and miss so much

 

[charl_huntress]

Him being a stringer/freelancer simply means that while he will earn money for his writing/reporting, he's not a full-time employee who earns a steady salary...yet. Stringers can be useful to a newspaper for a variety of reasons. They are still journalists.

Plus, who knows if Clark will have been hired full-time between the events of MOS and this new film? He'd only need a few solid months to prove himself. Yes, Lois has skills as a reporter, but let's not forget Clark has skills too. He's not much of a dumbie since, ya know, he's Superman and all.

Yeah...but I agree with Boy Scout that him having a interest in writing should have been shown more. The little scene at the end where he says he has to find a place that accommodates his lifestyle is just not enough....for me at least.

Lois has investigative instincts honed from years of hard won journalistic snuff. She's won the big award for her stuff, so she is the better reporter. Even if Clark makes it on the pay roll full time, she is still the better reporter.

 

[MrsKent26]

I step away for a minute and miss so much

You didn't miss much.

User1: I'm skeptical about this movie.
User2: Don't be.
User1: I still am.
User2: Oh. You shouldn't be.

Not that there's anything wrong with this. We have to pass the time until this movie comes out somehow.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

You didn't miss much.

User1: I'm skeptical about this movie.
User2: Don't be.
User1: I still am.
User2: Oh. You shouldn't be.

Not that there's anything wrong with this. We have to pass the time until this movie comes out somehow.

So there's gonna be 2 years of this crap? Damn it!!!!


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[Kal-El.9859]

You didn't miss much.

User1: I'm skeptical about this movie.
User2: Don't be.
User1: I still am.
User2: Oh. You shouldn't be.

Not that there's anything wrong with this. We have to pass the time until this movie comes out somehow.

I'm not skeptical of the movie. I'm sure they will continue one with Clark's reporter persona. It would be crazy to introduce it in one movie and forget it in the next. That seems to be the current running conversation

 

[roach]

So there's gonna be 2 years of this crap? Damn it!!!!


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[Kal-El.9859]

So there's gonna be 2 years of this crap? Damn it!!!!


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not exactly 2 years, but yeah

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Have you ever done that? I have.

 

[MrsKent26]

So there's gonna be 2 years of this crap? Damn it!!!!


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Yep. Unless all users suddenly agree on whether or not this movie will be awesome or complete horse****. We need everyone to go one way or the other, lol.

That horse will be nothing but dust and make us all sneeze.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

hit it hard enough and it might jump start its heart!

 

[The Shape]

Yeah...but I agree with Boy Scout that him having a interest in writing should have been shown more. The little scene at the end where he says he has to find a place that accommodates his lifestyle is just not enough....for me at least.

Lois has investigative instincts honed from years of hard won journalistic snuff. She's won the big award for her stuff, so she is the better reporter. Even if Clark makes it on the pay roll full time, she is still the better reporter.

What does Lois being the better reporter have to do with anything? Is that a problem? That's how she's portrayed in most interpretations of the characters, anyway.

As for Clark not being interested in writing...well, he didn't have many known interests since he was pretty much lost for the early portion of his life, trying/waiting to find out where he came from and what his purpose was. Now that he's found that and settled in his own skin finally, he's free to explore the real world in ways he hadn't before. Who's to say he won't really enjoy journalism and develop a passion for it? It doesn't have to simply be his cover and nothing more.

Also, Superman: The Movie, arguably one of the best superhero films ever made, shows Clark simply showing up at the Daily Planet after developing his powers and finally leaving Smallville. He meets, Lois, Perry, etc. I don't think that interpretation of Clark/Superman suffered because it wasn't demonstrated that he had a passion for journalism beforehand.

One thing I like about what MOS established is that since Lois already knows his identity, the scenes at the Planet won't be bogged down by Clark hopelessly fawning/bumbling around Lois. Instead of the whole "will she discover he's Superman?" and "will she fall for Clark or Superman?" dynamics, his Daily Planet scenes can focus on other things.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Yep. Unless all users suddenly agree on whether or not this movie will be awesome or complete horse****. We need everyone to go one way or the other, lol.

Now that would just be boring.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

I don't think anybody thinks that the movie's going to 'forget about it'. Fishburne, etc, are coming back after all.

Even if they only have one scene at the Planet, that's not 'forgetting about it'.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

What does Lois being the better reporter have to do with anything? Is that a problem? That's how she's portrayed in most interpretations of the characters, anyway.

As for Clark not being interested in writing...well, he didn't have many known interests since he was pretty much lost for the early portion of his life, trying/waiting to find out where he came from and what his purpose was. Now that he's found that and settled in his own skin finally, he's free to explore the real world in ways he hadn't before. Who's to say he won't really enjoy journalism and develop a passion for it? It doesn't have to simply be his cover and nothing more.

Also, Superman: The Movie, arguably one of the best superhero films ever made, shows Clark simply showing up at the Daily Planet after developing his powers and finally leaving Smallville. He meets, Lois, Perry, etc. I don't think that interpretation of Clark/Superman suffered because it wasn't demonstrated that he had a passion for journalism beforehand.

One thing I like about what MOS established is that since Lois already knows his identity, the scenes at the Planet won't be bogged down by Clark hopelessly fawning/bumbling around Lois. Instead of the whole "will she discover he's Superman?" and "will she fall for Clark or Superman?" dynamics, his Daily Planet scenes can focus on other things.

agreed

 

[MrsKent26]

Now that would just be boring.

Indeed.

 

[Herolee10]

You're right, I was proposing hypothetical situations, but my point still stands. It seems you're worried that this new film will just throw away just about everything that MOS established and I doubt that will be the case. It wouldn't make sense for them to end the film with Clark working for the DP and then ignore it in the next film.

In terms of what this new movie will be able to focus on, I refer you to my long-winded post from 2 pages back which addresses that concern:

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=27402737&postcount=910

Well, while i don't think it'll throw away everything MOS established, I am concerned that it will limit as to how far they could go with the elements present within Superman's mythology that could have been greatly fleshed out had he been given a sequel on his own.

Plus, the character doesn't have the best track record in his profession as a journalist being utilized well on film, so I await to see Snyder prove me wrong.

I also hope that these heroes, Wonder Woman, Batman, and possibly Flash don't make it go unnoticed that if it weren't for superman, that most of them would be dead since the last thing that I want them to accidentally do is to show that the heroes could have taken on Zod and company on their own and wouldn't have needed Superman to beat him in the long run.

 

[Tempest]

What does Lois being the better reporter have to do with anything? Is that a problem? That's how she's portrayed in most interpretations of the characters, anyway.

As for Clark not being interested in writing...well, he didn't have many known interests since he was pretty much lost for the early portion of his life, trying/waiting to find out where he came from and what his purpose was. Now that he's found that and settled in his own skin finally, he's free to explore the real world in ways he hadn't before. Who's to say he won't really enjoy journalism and develop a passion for it? It doesn't have to simply be his cover and nothing more.

Also, Superman: The Movie, arguably one of the best superhero films ever made, shows Clark simply showing up at the Daily Planet after developing his powers and finally leaving Smallville. He meets, Lois, Perry, etc. I don't think that interpretation of Clark/Superman suffered because it wasn't demonstrated that he had a passion for journalism beforehand.

One thing I like about what MOS established is that since Lois already knows his identity, the scenes at the Planet won't be bogged down by Clark hopelessly fawning/bumbling around Lois. Instead of the whole "will she discover he's Superman?" and "will she fall for Clark or Superman?" dynamics, his Daily Planet scenes can focus on other things.

I am vastly confused by the number of things people feel need to be explained to them in the film. The amount of detail people demand of a two hour movie is so strange to me. I feel like people get bogged down in the little details, instead of enjoying the whole picture.

 

[The Shape]

I step away for a minute and miss so much

You didn't miss much.

User1: I'm not only skeptical, but critical of this movie I know so little about.
User2: But you don't have to be skeptical or worry just yet. Here are reasons why.
User1: I don't care. I'm still skeptical. There's too many characters for this to be good.
User2. So basically, you wish this was a solo Superman movie?
User1: Yessiree, Bob.

 

[ThePhantasm]

You didn't miss much.

User1: I'm not only skeptical, but critical of this movie I know so little about.
User2: But you don't have to be skeptical or worry just yet. Here are reasons why.
User1: I don't care. I'm still skeptical. There's too many characters for this to be good.
User2. So basically, you wish this was a solo Superman movie?
User1: Yessiree, Bob.

User3: You guys are just beating a dead horse.
User4: Yeah, its always the same ol' same ol' around here.
User5: Meta comment about superhero hype discussions.

 

[HighFivingMF]

everbdy i donut think thsi will bea saquel.

 

[MrsKent26]

You didn't miss much.

User1: I'm not only skeptical, but critical of this movie I know so little about.
User2: But you don't have to be skeptical or worry just yet. Here are reasons why.
User1: I don't care. I'm still skeptical. There's too many characters for this to be good.
User2. So basically, you wish this was a solo Superman movie?
User1: Yessiree, Bob.

Many Superman fans, like myself, have admitted this already. I'll even say it again. I'm still bitter I didn't get a Superman sequel. There it is. A superhero movie that is focused on a team-up doesn't interest me like a Superman sequel would.

 

[The Shape]

User3: You guys are just beating a dead horse.
User4: Yeah, its always the same ol' same ol' around here.
User5: Meta comment about superhero hype discussions.

User7: Aquaman gif.

 

[roach]

User3: You guys are just beating a dead horse.
User4: Yeah, its always the same ol' same ol' around here.
User5: Meta comment about superhero hype discussions.

User6: I don't like that they had Superman kill in MOS
User7: Not this again
User8: Here's some pretty pictures.

 

[MrsKent26]

user9: Here's a joke used by another user except by me this time.

 

[roach]

Many Superman fans, like myself, have admitted this already. I'll even say it again. I'm still bitter I didn't get a Superman sequel. There it is. A superhero movie that is focused on a team-up doesn't interest me like a Superman sequel would.

This is nothing to worry about