BvS Ben Affleck IS Batman - Part 25

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Another interesting part of the interview is that Nolan apparently played a part in picking Affleck. I honestly thought it was mainly the WB execs.

I don't know if Roven said that to just make it seem Nolan has some involvement in this because he sure was struggling describing Nolan's role for BvS. I'm sure it's quite minimal. I still think the WB execs had a much bigger part in picking Affleck (which isn't a bad thing in this case because I think it was a great decision).

Roven & Zack: We picked our new Batman.

Nolan: who?

Roven & Zack: Ben Affleck.

Nolan: Good choice...I still get paid, right?

Roven & Zack: Yeah.

Nolan: Ok, cheerio!
 
I did find the "much more social animal" bit somewhat intriguing. I'm curious as to what Roven meant by that. Are we finally going to see the well-respected philanthropic side of Bruce Wayne on film or will it be just a different take on his "playboy" persona? Food for thought.

I thought that was an interesting line as well. And to be quite honest, I see Ben more as the well-respected philanthropic Bruce. But we'll see.
 
For the guys who can't see the video. here's the whole interview.

The biggest difference between what Chris [Nolan] did in The Dark Knight Trilogy and what we're doing now is that Bruce Wayne, Batman, lived in what I called a closed universe, in that there were no superheroes in it. There's Batman, and he is a human being, and Bruce Wayne has taken himself and made himself - in many ways, even though he's definitely got some dysfunction - he's made himself into, in many ways, the best a human being can be intellectually, in terms of his ability to be a detective, physically, etcetera. But he's real. He's human, he's a human being. He has no superpowers.

When we embarked on Man of Steel... one of the things we were doing was we were creating a universe that had a superhero in it, because Superman is clearly a superhero, he has superpowers. So once we did that, it was with the knowledge that, if the movie was successful and we expanded the universe, we were going to expand it and populate it with other, like characters.

Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice producer Charles Roven talked in some length about the selection of Ben Affleck as Bruce Wayne/Batman as part of The Hollywood Reporter's The Hollywood Masters series of interviews with influential filmmakers for students at Loyola Marymount University School of Film and Television.

Roven revealed one of the most important reasons why Affleck was their first choose and the "first guy we went to" was his age and compared to Henry Cavill’s Superman.

"We knew that we wanted a very mature Batman, because we wanted to juxtapose him with this very young Superman," explained Roven. "So we wanted a guy who was tougher, rugged, who had signs of life, who had lived a hard life, and we wanted the guy to have chops, for sure."

"We also wanted a guy with big stature," Roven continued. "Ben is 6' 4". Henry [Cavill] is 6'1". We wanted Batman to tower over Superman. Not hugely, not like a basketball player. Superman needed to 'look up' to Batman. We wanted that dynamic, and Ben could do that, easily."

Responding to the question of whether Affleck hesitated on taking the role, Roven replied: "No, I wouldn't say he hesitated. I think that what he did do was that he made sure that he understood what Zack [Snyder] was looking for."

Roven also talked about how involved former Batman director Christopher Nolan and his producer wife Emma Thomas were in this latest iteration.

Roven said: "[Nolan] is an executive producer on the movie, as is Emma Thomas, his wife. And I would say that he's much more focused on the movie Interstellar, writing, directing. He co-wrote it with his brother. … They were off doing that movie."

Nolan wasn't entirely removed from the Batman v. Superman development, though, Roven said, explaining that the Inception director was "certainly involved in different stages. I would say he has an advisory capacity" and that he also was involved in the casting of Affleck as Batman.

Roven explained that Affleck wanted to know how Snyder planned to differentiate between Batman and Bruce Wayne, and apparently Dawn of Justice will mark a "completely different" iteration of that dynamic.

"He's much more of a social animal in the Bruce Wayne incarnation, but he's also an extremely rough guy in the Batman incarnation — very, very, very rough," Roven explained.

In his final comments, Roven mentions Wonder Woman, and confirms her origin as the daughter of Zeus.

Wonder Woman’s in it. We know that. She has powers, she’s a goddess. She’s a demigod. Her father was Zeus.
 
Another interesting part of the interview is that Nolan apparently played a part in picking Affleck. I honestly thought it was mainly the WB execs.

I don't know if Roven said that to just make it seem Nolan has some involvement in this because he sure was struggling describing Nolan's role for BvS. I'm sure it's quite minimal. I still think the WB execs had a much bigger part in picking Affleck (which isn't a bad thing in this case because I think it was a great decision).

Affleck has a connection to Lora Kennedy, the casting director for MoS, BvS and Argo. I don't think Nolan was involved too much.

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I disagree, cause they could've just used camera tricks....they wanted that height difference

They could have but they might have felt the extra effort wasn't needed in the end just to depict Cavill and Afleck next to each other.

If the height difference between the two actually looks somewhat exaggerated on screen than yeah it will be evident they want to play up the difference.

In reality there doesn't appear to be that noticeable a difference between the two certainly not "towering".


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I thought that was an interesting line as well. And to be quite honest, I see Ben more as the well-respected philanthropic Bruce. But we'll see.

Yep, I agree. Like TNN said, though; we'll probably still see some of Bruce Wayne's "eccentric playboy" qualities in Affleck's performance. Either way, I suspect he'll be convincing in that particular aspect of the role.
 
Ben's hair towers over him. But yeah, I think that would be a cool visual to see Bats a little taller than Supes, even though he's obviously stronger. I'd like a scene where even though he knows Batman is just a man he still looks a little intimidated.
 
Yep, I agree. Like TNN said, though; we'll probably still see some of Bruce Wayne's "eccentric playboy" qualities in Affleck's performance. Either way, I suspect he'll be convincing in that particular aspect of the role.

Somehow I don't get the impression that he'll be too eccentric as Bruce Wayne, for whatever reason. And I really doubt he'll be a playboy, but I might be mistaken.
 
He doesn't need to be played as eccentric anymore, Bale and Keaton already did that.
 
Ben's hair towers over him. But yeah, I think that would be a cool visual to see Bats a little taller than Supes, even though he's obviously stronger. I'd like a scene where even though he knows Batman is just a man he still looks a little intimidated.

Hmm. I think it would make for some interesting dialogue between the two if young Clark grew up admiring Batman as a childhood hero of sorts upon hearing whispers of an urban legend in Gotham City. Even if you're the most powerful man in the world, you don't want to beat up your childhood hero -- that's just awkward.
 
Ben's hair towers over him. But yeah, I think that would be a cool visual to see Bats a little taller than Supes, even though he's obviously stronger. I'd like a scene where even though he knows Batman is just a man he still looks a little intimidated.
I wouldn't call intimidation... I'd call respect, as for Supes with Bats/ Bats with Supes.
 
Even despite Batman challenging Superman in that Comic-Con clip, Superman still looked imposing.
 
Well, I'd think he'd be a little subconsciously creeped out. "This guy knows what I can do and he's coming at me like I'm no threat at all."
 
Well, I'd think he'd be a little subconsciously creeped out. "This guy knows what I can do and he's coming at me like I'm no threat at all."

I wonder if they're going to touch on Supes being able to hear Batman's heart beating and such.

Supes: "I can hear your heart beating faster. I know you're afraid of me."

Batman: "That's not why it's beating fast." :: opens box to reveal green meteor rock ::

Batman: "Now, I don't have superhearing like you, but I'd bet the farm your heart's beating fast now!"
 
I wonder if they're going to touch on Supes being able to hear Batman's heart beating and such.

Supes: "I can hear your heart beating faster. I know you're afraid of me."

Batman: "That's not why it's beating fast." :: opens box to reveal green meteor rock ::

Batman: "Now, I don't have superhearing like you, but I'd bet the farm your heart's beating fast now!"

That... That's ****ing awesome
 
They could have but they might have felt the extra effort wasn't needed in the end just to depict Cavill and Afleck next to each other.

If the height difference between the two actually looks somewhat exaggerated on screen than yeah it will be evident they want to play up the difference.

In reality there doesn't appear to be that noticeable a difference between the two certainly not "towering".


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i still think it's ****ing awesome that Superman was wearing his outfit in TDKR there

dammit Cavill and Affleck are so perfect for their roles. I can't believe how perfect they are for this. Good ****ing job Snyder :up:

Gadot looks perfect for the role too, after we see her, i don't think we'll be able to imagine anyone else as WW
 
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