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So I guess the next step is casting.
Steven MacKenzie said:Youre also a creative consultant for 20th Century Fox. What's the job description for that?
I guess it's a kind of godfather position really. I'm overseeing all their superhero movies, X-Men, Fantastic Four, Wolverine and the movies that are related to them. It's quite a thing. Doing one movie is a big responsibility, but if you're suddenly doing six of them you're talking over a billion dollars of investment.
Reboot seems to be the word of the moment. Are there cultural reasons behind that or is it just an excuse to tell a good story over again?
I think it's actually something they try and avoid to tell you the truth. They're talking of doing a Fantastic Four reboot here at Fox with the guy who did Chronicle. Thats one I could get behind because I feel those first two Fantastic Four movies just werent that good.
Where did they go wrong? All the ingredients were there.
You're right in the sense that the movies actually made money they made $400 million but I think the fans would like to see it done a little bit differently. There were some unusual choices made in that film. It's still not clear entirely what the plan is, but I do think that Fantastic Four wasnt as good as Spider-Man or The Dark Knight so if its rebooted, it will be for good reasons.
Inevitably when they reboot Batman again theyll make it more like the 1960s TV show.
He's still my favourite Batman. Adam West to me is Batman. Christian Bale's a beefy impersonator. All these reboots seemed to happen about 10 years ago, you had Bond rebooted you had Batman rebooted. The 90s was all about retro, it was all about looking back on the previous 100 years and doing amalgamations of stuff. Oasis were the ultimate music example of that and Tarantino was the cinematic version. There was a fresh start feeling at the start of the decade and we're just continuing that now.
Sweet.
Fox must be under the gun to aim for 2015. I know they can retain the rights as long as the have the franchise in development by a certain date, but they also have to deliver a finished product.
It's the same date John Carter had, or is close to it.
Risky play by Fox. Fantastic Four isn't that intimidating a property that any of the other big companies wouldn't park their own March tentpole on the same date and do a squeeze play (ala DOFP and TBA in 2014).
It would be years before they could build up to that type of event even if Marvel did have the rights to FF. Besides, I think there's a good chance that down the road Fox, Sony, and Marvel will strike a cross licensing deal to collaborate on their films anyway. There's obvious interest on both sides and you're crazy if you think a good number of those nerds all working on these films aren't bugging executives to do something about it. Hell, even executives on both sides want it.I have a mixed feeling about this F4 reboot. On one hand, I'd like to see a Fantastic 4 movie done right finally, but on the other hand I'd love nothing more than having Marvel's First Family joins MCU, and have Avengers, F4, and GOTG all battling the mighty Galactus and Dr. Doom. But I guess the silver lining is that it will let Marvel divert their limited resources on other movies such as Ant-Man and prepare for Avengers 2 in 2015.
Why doesnt this have its own subforum? Didnt the FF used to?
Liat Clark said:Do you think studios are taking more risks as a result?
Definitely. Even a couple of years ago they wouldn't have let me across the door, so this is a paradigm shift and I think it's very interesting. If you look at Chronicle, they took its director Josh Trank and gave him Fantastic Four, and they looked at my stuff and now I'm doing a couple movies with Fox. They rang up and said we feel there's this new energy and we want it. They hadn't always had a huge success with Dare Devil and Fantastic Four, and X-Men was generally very good but some of the movies were uneven. And they wanted a more modern sensibility. I think that's the way it always works -- back in the early 90s they were hiring lots of Hong Kong directors, after John Woo they thought that's what we do now and I think after Kick-Ass and after Chronicle they're bringing in us guys to reach out to the superhero franchise.
They know I can do four quadrant family friendly stuff as well as the hardcore stuff. Something like Fantastic Four could lend itself to some more hardcore stuff. You've got to make it modern and resonate but you've also got to do something an eight-year-old can watch.
Because this movie won't happen. That's why.
Rob Keyes said:With this date selection, Trank will likely be shooting in early 2014, which makes us wonder when hell begin shooting on Shadow of the Colossus, Sonys video game adaptation. It also means that Fox has one Marvel movie a year for the next three years.
We know that Fox wants to (re)establish the Fantastic Four before doing something more ambitious, like crossing them over with the X-Men, but that absolutely is the next logical step if Bryan Singer can do something special with his time travel tale, X-Men: Days of Future Past.
All you guys said:2015... The Avengers 2, Justice League, Star wars VII, Fantastic Four