The way I've wrote it is that Bruce isn't training Dick as a sidekick. It's so he can become Nightwing so to speak in years to come. Dick becomes Robin on his own to get Zucco himself, because Batman is dealing with Mr. Freeze.
As for the comics....he musn't care at all
This is how I'm writing Robin in my script.
Firstly. Bruce Wayne is a lot more disturbed, and there's a reason why this works in Robin's favour.
In the script, Bruce does not see Dick Grayson as a person so to speak - he see's himself. Since Joe Chill was never found and tried, Batman see's Zucco as his parents murderer, since he see's his younger self in Dick.
Dick is taken to a foster home, where Batman visits him every night. When Zucco's men try to kill Dick, fearing he's the key witness, Batman takes him in.
So initially, Dick is trained so he can become a fighter for when he's older, not as a sidekick.
When Gotham is troubled by Mr. Freeze, Batman concerns himself with him. But Dick wants revenge and thinks Batman is neglecting his parents murder. So he dresses up as Robin, and goes to kill Zucco himself. Never fighting criminals, but using the skills he knows best to infiltrate Zucco's location. Eventually Robin finds him, but cant bring himself to kill him. That answers the question symbolicley "Would Batman kill Joe Chill?" Through Robin not killing his parents murderer, the answer is, no.
I felt if Robin were to be in it, he should have a more important meaning. He is a representation of innocense in Batman's world.
Since I'm writing Batman as a self-proclaiming 'Man Of Vengeance' in this film, as opposed to Christian Bale's 'Man Of Justice', I felt Dick should be that guiding light.
Cause this Batman has no proper idea of what he's fighting for, and the only way he could answer that question is if he came face to face with Chill...Vengeance or Justice?
In the movie, I have him debating wether he should actually kill Freeze or not, since he has no pity for him (and this is the first time he comes face to face with a Supervillain). But by the end, as Freeze tells his tragic tale - Batman remembers Dick not killing Zucco, and realises not everything in the world is so black and white as he first saw it, he lets Freeze go!
So the events help Batman realise what he truly is. This is then followed by an invitation into the JLA from Superman. Happy Ending
Thanks Dave
I was just researching what Vengeance really is, and what would it mean to Batman?
It was the talk between Rachel and Bruce in BB that got me thinking about the difference between Justice and Revenge. Are they really that different that they should be put in seperate categories? When Justice is served, revenge comes along with it in situations.
Say somebody is killed, and the murderer is sentenced, Justice AND Revenge have been served. That's what I believe Batman truly is about. He's about Revenge for the victims and those who suffer loss, and about reaping Vengeance on those are guilty. That's why Bruce became Batman originally. But he also has the respect for Justice that the Punisher doesn't have, that's why he wouldn't cross the line and leaves the rest up to the authorities above him.
I tried looking at Batman and Robin's relationship from a realistic POV. What effect would he have on this emotionally shattered child, when he himself is just as in a bad place? Cause I in the story, I have Dick being influenced by Bruce.
He asks Bruce "Would you kill the man who murdered your parents?". Even Bruce doesn't honestly know the answer to that, and Dick interprets that as 'yes'. So he goes off to kill Zucco, but can't bring himself, and turns him over to the authorities. And to Bruce, as he see's himself in Dick, thats what he's really like as well. So Dick helps Bruce keep his innocense for not turning into a criminal himself eventually.
If Dick wants too follow Batman's philosophy, then why not?
I thought that was the discussion...in Nolan films.
You need the more screwed up Batman for that to happen
I'm a fan of a guy who slept in a bed with other people's boy's and was accused of fiddling them.
Batman pulling Dick into his life and ways? I guess it's because Bruce never learned to cope with his loss in the right way. He grew bitter and angry towards criminals, and wanted to do something about it.
Training Dick was always about Bruce thinking it would help him, like being Batman helped him. So all in all, Bruce Wayne is definitely not right in the head. So yeah, it is pretty creepy. But in that world, its acceptable to them and to us.
In Nolan's realistic world, where Batman is more sane than the comics, Robin wouldn't work at all.
That's why I'm writing Bruce having this strange feeling of connection to Dick, because he see's Dick as himself and has a chance to avenge him against Zucco, since Joe Chill was never found.
Where a mass murder committed against the police by Harley, resulting in a breakout in Arkham, releasing The Joker, a disillusioned Commissioner Gordon is considering retiring from the GPD. Barbara who was turned down by the FBI, and told by her dad that she just isn't cut out to be a Cop, becomes Batgirl to help stop the Joker!!!
