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It took me about five times to read that. I received this :

subject: hi

how.are. you.


I'm going to reply : Fine , thanks for asking.


What?! No, No, No That is not sexy or fun.

Try sending her a message back that says:

oh I'm fantastic, but things got kind of hairy. The T.Rex almost ate me right before I jumped into the time portal, it was a close one.

We’re gonna play a word game "would you rather" questions. I bet you would have some very interesting answers lol But here is the catch, you have to explain "why" you chose such answer.

Would you rather...have an amazing singing voice but never be famous, or be famous with a crappy voice, and that’s what you were famous for?

Be invisible, or be able to fly?

Rather catch a lot of medium size fish and eat them all? Or catch one big one, take a picture, and let it go?

have one year of amazing, toe-curling, neighbor-calling-911 sex and the next year of no sex, or would you rather have two years of so-so sex?

Would you rather live to be 110 years old safely, and KNOW a lot of things, die at 80 having taken risks and DONE a lot of things ?

Good luck"
Hell cut and paste it and come back and report here before taking it any further on POF. :cwink: These questions will allow you to find out all sort of things about her personality. Girls love fin stuff like a quiz, and she is already trying to qualify herself to you.

There was a time when I was a sex addict, and POF was one of my great enablers. Sure I would meet girls in person, but while during time with my son (half the time I was a single parent) I could not go out at night looking for ***, so I made an account, learned a lot of stuff, and had an over 90% response rate from women. I **** you not. Most guys get hardly any responses. I might as well have been a god, or at least a demi-god as I had some issues with scheduling in all the girls I was meeting. Almost all the dates I set up turned into first night lays too. I could literally pick and chose women as if I were looking though a catalogue.
 
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This is so true.

I know this has nothing to do with depression, but a bout of "self diagnosis" had me suffering from brain tumors and angina, when in actuality, it was allergies and gas. :dry::dry:
If you ever try to self-diagnose yourself, you'll always think you have cancer. :o

Although I did successfully diagnose my foot issue, and stopped doing what I thought was helping but was actually hurting. Yay for my bio degree. :oldrazz:

The right attitude is to work on what you can, and what you cannot don't worry about.

Some people hate tests like that because they are told what they do not want to hear.
You're talking to the person who went to a college where everyone thought the SAT was stupid but did extremely well on it nonetheless. :oldrazz: We had to in order to get in. Doesn't mean we actually think it means anything.
 
Umm....Well good for you. :o


Um Weeeeeeell it can be good for you too, if anyone is willing experiemnt with my openers and info I'm willing to give on setting up a profile that makes you look fun and interesting.

I had the thing down to the point it was systemized. Now if I'm willing to give gems away for FREE, is that just good for me?

Try these openers:

1. Not sure if you know
But penguins are cuter than bunnies.
Chimpanzees are not vegetarians.
I bet you also didn't know that I'm devilishly charming, handsome, and.......modest.
 
2. Sooo...
 
After a rigorously brief overview of your profile I wanted to let you know I have already married and divorced you in my mind.

Thanks for all the wonderful imaginary memories... you will always have a special place in my heart.

your ex-hubby,

Mike-

ps. I am going to need half your money according to our prenup

pps. You can keep the cat and I will keep the house in Sweden

3.
 
My bad...
 
Hey, I'm sure you have been wondering where I have been all your life. Sorry I got held up rescuing damsels in distress, slaying dragons, freeing unicorns from dungeon and then of course I got turned into a frog there for a bit. So sorry it took this long to get in touch with you. I'll make sure you have the fairest pony in all the kingdom and don't even get me started on the tiara
ps you are a princess right?

I would rotate these, and sometimes modify them to include a bit or two about the girls profile.

I would then follow up replies with that Question list in my last post.

Go ahead and try them out.
 
There was a time when I was a sex addict, and POF was one of my great enablers. Sure I would meet girls in person, but while during time with my son (half the time I was a single parent) I could not go out at night looking for ***, so I made an account, learned a lot of stuff, and had an over 90% response rate from women. I **** you not. Most guys get hardly any responses. I might as well have been a god, or at least a demi-god as I had some issues with scheduling in all the girls I was meeting. Almost all the dates I set up turned into first night lays too. I could literally pick and chose women as if I were looking though a catalogue.
There are some times I wonder if you're with your fiancee because you've convinced yourself there's no other hotter women out there, for all the focus on banging hot women you have. :o
 
I would rotate these, and sometimes modify them to include a bit or two about the girls profile.

I would then follow up replies with that Question list in my last post.

Go ahead and try them out.
No offense, but I got some messages like that and I deleted them and virtually backed away slowly from those guys. Just sayin' as one of the female species. :oldrazz:

But if all you want to do is look for hot women to have a one-night stand with, it could be something to try. What have you got to lose, you sure aren't looking for compatibility or anything relationship-y like that. :o
 
There are some times I wonder if you're with your fiancee because you've convinced yourself there's no other hotter women out there, for all the focus on banging hot women you have. :o

You wonder about me? That is so sweet.

While my fiancée’ is beautiful, that is NOT the reason I’m with her.

I am with her, because of how much she cares about me. Yes there ARE things out there more important than looks. In short I love her, because of how much love she shows me.

I’m well aware of the fact that there are even more attractive women out there. If my goal was to just marry the most attractive woman I had sex with wouldn't that be... Shallow?
 
No offense, but I got some messages like that and I deleted them and virtually backed away slowly from those guys. Just sayin' as one of the female species. :oldrazz:

But if all you want to do is look for hot women to have a one-night stand with, it could be something to try. What have you got to lose, you sure aren't looking for compatibility or anything relationship-y like that. :o


You cannot tell it was designed to Pre-screen women?

Why would I want to be with a sour puss?
 
You wonder about me? That is so sweet.

While my fiancée’ is beautiful, that is NOT the reason I’m with her.

I am with her, because of how much she cares about me. Yes there ARE things out there more important than looks. In short I love her, because of how much love she shows me.

I’m well aware of the fact that there are even more attractive women out there. If my goal was to just marry the most attractive woman I had sex with wouldn't that be... Shallow?
I'm just sayin' since all your advice seems to be shallow. :oldrazz: Nothing about finding social gatherings that would jive with your interests so you could meet a like-minded girl.

One of my geek girl friends finally found a bf - he's a comic book writer and they met at a mixer at a prominent comic book store. Stuff like that. Instead of trying out techniques that would possibly work for chicks you meet at a bar but what if you're not the bar scene kind of guy?
 
You cannot tell it was designed to Pre-screen women?

Why would I want to be with a sour puss?
Depends on what kind of women you want to pre-screen. :oldrazz: I don't do stupid questions. Doesn't necessarily make me a sour puss, but I'd rather devote my mental energies to other things, thanks.

Like watching funny cat videos! :awesome:
 
I'm just sayin' since all your advice seems to be shallow. :oldrazz: Nothing about finding social gatherings that would jive with your interests so you could meet a like-minded girl.

One of my geek girl friends finally found a bf - he's a comic book writer and they met at a mixer at a prominent comic book store. Stuff like that. Instead of trying out techniques that would possibly work for chicks you meet at a bar but what if you're not the bar scene kind of guy?

The major issue is that when guys simply try to qualify themselves by talking about interests to the girls and blah, blah, blah is what they end up doing. This can be boring at best, and creepy at worst.

I suggest guys read the entire profile a woman puts up, and they can only send the fun message to ones with common interests, if they want, instead of the guy sending a girl an essay about why they are perfect for each other.

Guys showing girls that they have common interest with her and trying to tell her why they are perfect together are working an uphill battle, they seem desperate, and that as an attraction killer. They are FAR better off showing their fun side, and not being totally outcome dependant but are there enjoying the ride.

One of the women I met was an archeologist. Archeology is an interest of mine, but I still wrote her a fun and goofy opener, and made her pass the silly quiz.

The result was a good friendship, great sex, but ultimately not a relationship as she was going to be moving soon to another university.
Good friend with benefits, and by that I mean we really could talk about things deeper than most people ever get to. One of the happiest experiences of my life looking back on it.

I did not get there by being like all the other hundreds of guys who each day e-mailed her with the same old boring ****.
 
The major issue is that when guys simply try to qualify themselves by talking about interests to the girls and blah, blah, blah is what they end up doing. This can be boring at best, and creepy at worst.
Like many things, it's not what you do, it's how you do it. Of course I want to know what the other party is interested in, but I don't need a 5-page dissertation about it in the first message. Something like, "I do ______. It's cool, I get to _______. You?" will perfectly suffice without having to copy/paste questions at someone's suggestion. :oldrazz:

I suggest guys read the entire profile a woman puts up, and they can only send the fun message to ones with common interests, if they want, instead of the guy sending a girl an essay about why they are perfect for each other.
Probably the only piece of advice we agree on. :oldrazz:

I recall I actually did that in the first message I sent to my bf. I recognized where his screen name came from and sent him a fun jab about it.

The result was a good friendship, great sex, but ultimately not a relationship as she was going to be moving soon to another university.

Good friend with benefits, and by that I mean we really could talk about things deeper than most people ever get to. One of the happiest experiences of my life looking back on it.
So because you need to recount the numerous women you've bedded in the past, you think this qualifies you to tout yourself the most knowledgeable and most successful of all of us?

I did not get there by being like all the other hundreds of guys who each day e-mailed her with the same old boring ****.
Like, copy/pasting fun questions written by someone else? :cwink:
 
Is this 14 city miles? Can't you just take a subway? :huh:
It's outside the city.
that reminds me of Joseph-Gordon Levitt's character from 500 Days of Summer :D I havent seen the movie yet but from what i hear he's a good example of this idealistic dude who's looking for hte 'right person' and has no idea of compromise. we can't be that. guys or girls.
Actually, JGL's character was trying to compromise, but it was the girl who was being a real ***** about the relationship. But then again I may be bias since he reminded me a lot of myself. :(
Yeah that's not too bad. I used to live in Germany without a license the first year and met a girl who lived 30-40 miles away. Things moved kind of fast though because within a month I was spending nights and weekends. Also if I didn't make it back by a certain time on Sunday the bus wouldn't run near the base and I'd have to hail a cab.
Yeah I remember I liked a girl that I would only see at church because she lived about 30 miles away from me and wasn't really used to being in the city on her own. One time I was going to stay at a friend of hers and mine's house so I could spend the day with her over there. It didn't happen but I knew then that it wasn't going to work even though I could've also taken a train, but I wasn't really looking forward to that because that would've been half a day spent traveling.
That movie was cute but ultimately I didn't like it all that much. I only really like movies where the main character actually learns something. He didn't.
I actually think he did learn something. I mean he was depressed after breaking up with her, and even more depressed after he realized she was engaged, but after a few weeks he snapped out of it and tried to fix his life, quitting his job and going after his real dream. And even though it didn't work out right away, he didn't quit.

Not to mention the narrator mentions at the end: [BLACKOUT]"If Tom had learned anything... it was that you can't ascribe great cosmic significance to a simple earthly event. Coincidence, that's all anything ever is, nothing more than coincidence... Tom had finally learned, there are no miracles. There's no such thing as fate, nothing is meant to be. He knew, he was sure of it now. "[/BLACKOUT] He basically learned how to face reality.
I'm boggled. I'm talking to three girls on OkCupid, one is 18, one is 24 and one is 26. The 24 and 26 years olds are using terrible punctuation, bad spelling and grammar, whereas the 18 year old is writing almost flawlessly.

Hmmmm...curious.
I can't stand the people who can't type properly, so I guess that would be a dealbreaker of mine.
I'm super skeptical of this "professional" advice. I've literally heard it all and I know what needs to be done--I'm trying to get better on my own--it's just taking such a long and painful time to get there. My serotonin pills will help bide me some time until I'm able to get there.

God damn right.

I've been feeling like this for years I'd say...I've just been finding ways to deal with it.

I think it runs in the family because my sister's had bad depression problems for most of her life and my mother too. I haven't done much about it "clinically" other than the occasional pop of 5-HTP...

and it goes far beyond "not getting a girl"....I don't like leaving the house, I don't like getting up for work, I don't like talking to people, I have trouble sleeping, I avoid family members,..etc.

I'm super skeptical of this "professional" advice. I've literally heard it all and I know what needs to be done--I'm trying to get better on my own--it's just taking such a long and painful time to get there. My serotonin pills will help bide me some time until I'm able to get there.
I've mentioned how I spent the past year and a half "depressed" so I can understand what you're going through. At first people thought it was because of a girl, but I quickly realized it was deeper than that. I was more frustrated with my life and myself. I felt like everything I thought I knew was a lie and that I didn't really know anything, and I had to change a lot of things that I had no desire to change. So I was pretty much stuck and I too started to hate talking to people and family and I stopped going out and missed a bunch of classes when school started for the first time in my life.

A few people suggested professional help, but even though part of me felt like I needed it, I also knew that the only thing I needed was a good friend to talk to and someone who would listen and give me honest advice. I kept saying I knew what I had to do and what needed to change, but what I didn't know was how to change it. I can say that I am doing much better now, even though I can't really explain why. Like I feel much more confident and I feel like I could get a girlfriend now if I just try, but at the same time I feel like there's still some things that I need to change not just to help me now, but also for the future. But even though I'm alone now, I feel much better about things because I just have hope and faith in myself to get to where I want to be eventually. I'm not saying that it will be easy or that things will get better right away, but just try to keep looking at the brighter side of things, and if possible, talk to people. You may not want to get out or talk to people, but sometimes a bit of fresh air and a good ear will go a long way.

Also the person who I know consider to be my best friend told me this when I felt at my worse, and that's to just do things in baby steps. Don't try to make any big jumps right away. Instead, take things one step at a time at your own pace. Eventually you'll find yourself where you need to be. Also, try to surround yourself around positive things. I know my mom is very negative and most of my thoughts stemmed from being around her and only her all my life, so it was hard to see things positively. But a friend of mine got my into some comedy shows that really made me feel better just because all I did was laugh with them. That really helped me forget what was even bothering me.
 
What?! No, No, No That is not sexy or fun.

Try sending her a message back that says:


Hell cut and paste it and come back and report here before taking it any further on POF. :cwink: These questions will allow you to find out all sort of things about her personality. Girls love fin stuff like a quiz, and she is already trying to qualify herself to you.

There was a time when I was a sex addict, and POF was one of my great enablers. Sure I would meet girls in person, but while during time with my son (half the time I was a single parent) I could not go out at night looking for ***, so I made an account, learned a lot of stuff, and had an over 90% response rate from women. I **** you not. Most guys get hardly any responses. I might as well have been a god, or at least a demi-god as I had some issues with scheduling in all the girls I was meeting. Almost all the dates I set up turned into first night lays too. I could literally pick and chose women as if I were looking though a catalogue.


lol , That's really not my thing but I'm sending that message anyway, just to see how she replies. Only part I cut out was the dinosaur thing. I will report back.

Also, I love how half these girls on POF say they aren't looking for one night hook-ups but decide to post pictures of their cleavage in tight clothing.
 
Like many things, it's not what you do, it's how you do it. Of course I want to know what the other party is interested in, but I don't need a 5-page dissertation about it in the first message. Something like, "I do ______. It's cool, I get to _______. You?" will perfectly suffice without having to copy/paste questions at someone's suggestion. :oldrazz:

Probably the only piece of advice we agree on. :oldrazz:

I recall I actually did that in the first message I sent to my bf. I recognized where his screen name came from and sent him a fun jab about it.

So because you need to recount the numerous women you've bedded in the past, you think this qualifies you to tout yourself the most knowledgeable and most successful of all of us?

Like, copy/pasting fun questions written by someone else? :cwink:

So you're on here to argue over advice, and give advice too? You advice based on how much success?

Do you have anything else to add, as in advice that actually will work with these guys without ad-hominem, and strawman arguments?

If I just tell them to "go and do whatever you feel you should do", or the old "be yourself" (which is about as vague well wishing as you can get)then that helps them in NO WAY AT ALL.

Are you giving them something, for FREE? Something most guys would have to pay for? What I gave them to copy/paste is still different than 99% of the stuff women will see on the site. What advice do you offer them that will stand out so much?

These guys are about to go on to try internet dating, and that puts them in a suasage fest where their e-mail is competing with hundreds of other guys, every day, to the point where most girls will not even give them two seconds unless he says something that grabs her attention and makes him stand out. What do YOU suggest they write? Instead of just saying what I give them will not work, what do you suggest as an alternative?
 
lol , That's really not my thing but I'm sending that message anyway, just to see how she replies. Only part I cut out was the dinosaur thing. I will report back.

Also, I love how half these girls on POF say they aren't looking for one night hook-ups but decide to post pictures of their cleavage in tight clothing.

99% of women say that, because they are socially judged harshly by a lot of men, and other women on the amount of partners they have had, and willingness to have sex.

So its to save face. Lots of women will have sex with a man, even for a one time, or a few times encounter if he was in her opinion really, really hot, she wont tell anyone about it however.

Women can be just as, or even more sexual minded than men.
 
So you're on here to argue over advice, and give advice too? You advice based on how much success?
Depends on how you define success. If one defines romantic success as getting 90% response rate from online dating sites and banging one new person a week, then yes, I'm an utter complete failure.

But if you define romantic success as getting yourself a long-term committed relationship with someone, then we're about at the same level. You just took a much more roundabout way than I did. :oldrazz:

Don't get me wrong, I fully believe my bf would be jealous of a guy like you, a guy who can bed any woman he wants. Hell, anyone would be jealous of anyone else who had the ability to attract anyone of their preferred sex. But my bf looks at me and he can hold my hand and we can read quietly in a cafe while other women are yakking on their phones with loud ditzy voices and he's probably satisfied with the way things turned out. :funny:

Do you have anything else to add, as in advice that actually will work with these guys without ad-hominem, and strawman arguments?

If I just tell them to "go and do whatever you feel you should do", or the old "be yourself" (which is about as vague well wishing as you can get)then that helps them in NO WAY AT ALL.

Are you giving them something, for FREE? Something most guys would have to pay for? What I gave them to copy/paste is still different than 99% of the stuff women will see on the site. What advice do you offer them that will stand out so much?

These guys are about to go on to try internet dating, and that puts them in a suasage fest where their e-mail is competing with hundreds of other guys, every day, to the point where most girls will not even give them two seconds unless he says something that grabs her attention and makes him stand out. What do YOU suggest they write? Instead of just saying what I give them will not work, what do you suggest as an alternative?
I think I have some advice to give, because I met my bf on an online dating site. Not sure if you met yours online, but obviously from what you've describe, you certainly didn't need to. :cwink:

I have been giving these guys advice, and it's been the same kind of advice Erzengel has been giving - dating is about NUMBERS. It's not about pretending to be a cooler pickup-artist version of yourself. It's about meeting lots of people however you can (in real life, online, whatever) in order to find someone who likes you for you.

Everyone will find their partner if they are themselves, but they have to meet them first. That's the rub. It's about numbers. Every time I went on POF to browse profiles, I messaged about 5 new guys at a time, every time. It wasn't like, "Oh, this profile sounds pretty good, maaaybe I'll message them." No, you have to go for it. As you said, there are thousands of people from all sorts of places on these sites, there's bound to be someone for you but only if you go out and try to meet them first.

What I like about online dating is that you can "meet" so many people at one time and determine if they sound interesting enough to contact. In real life that's a lot more difficult logistically, especially if one's a weird introverted hermit. :oldrazz:
 
The girl responded to those questions , she just figured I was effing with her . I messaged a couple other girls and another said she wanted to meet me . There's fish in the sea:up:
 
The only question you have to ask is: Is she hot!?
 
i have the ability to make a woman hotter than she really is through infatuation. The other question is: Does she still look the same as these pictures?
 
That's the only question that ever matters in dating.
It also applies as the only exception to breaking certain rules in all areas of life. Just listen to my good friend, Barney Stinson.

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i have the ability to make a woman hotter than she really is through infatuation. The other question is: Does she still look the same as these pictures?
Even worse. Are those pics really her? :wow:
 
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