BvS The Batsuit Thread - - - - Part 13

[BatLobster]

^to BatLobsterRises and DeadPresident - if I may add my two cents in...I think all regwec was saying was that there are some posters that are more passionate about seeing a comic-faithful, "proper" suit (meaning what we're use to seeing in the comics for years and years) and those that don't care all that much and just accept what suit is shown in the film - for better or for worse.

That's fair enough if that's what he meant. I even said as much in my post that I'm not as particular about what I want in a Bat-suit. However I would still object to the idea that I would just accept anything thrown at me. There is concept art out there for alternate looks for Bane and Joker that I don't like at all and I'm glad they went with what they went with. I'm sure the same applies to the Bat-suit and that there are version of it that I might've liked less than what we ultimately got. I liked what we got because I thought it looked good on film. There's nothing anyone could say to make me think I'm objectively wrong about that.

This. You are exactly right here. The franchise did indeed need things to come back down to Earth. But now that it's had three movies to do so, I think that we need Snyder's take on realism. Say what you want about MOS, but the way that he could bring Superman into a more realistic world was impressive. Can't wait to see his view of Batman.

Yeah, I agree. Sometimes I wish people would embrace a more macro viewpoint and see that the character NEEDS to evolve with the times, that different eras call for a different type of Batman, and that each version paves the way for the next in some way, shape or form. It's all part of this character's rich history. You can be excited for something new without completely throwing what came before under the bus.

 

[Bathead]

Only if they use grey and blue, I think the oval looks out of place on grey and black.

I dunno, I kinda like the look:

 

[regwec]

The division to me is more people who are more militant in their views of what a Batsuit should and shouldn't look like, and people who are more flexible.

That's approaching a paraphrase of my original comment.

Explicit language use isn't necessary to pick up implications.

That seems to rather suggest that we can put words in one another's mouths. Let's not do that.

You obviously think none of the batsuits so far have been "proper", and by the way you split your statement into an "Us vs Them" dichotomy it would seem you think your group of proper batsuiters have a more specific and congruent taste than the fans that'll take any old thing spray painted black.

That's a somewhat fairer revision of your earlier comment, which suggested that I didn't think the rubber-lovers were proper fans.

I didn't say that.

Not making a debate out of it, but it's clear you're not in favor of flexibility/renditions of a batsuit without certain characteristics.

I'm in favour of any flexibility that allows Batman to kick goons in the throat.

I almost just had a heart attack! Don't do stuff like that!

I know, the tension is getting ridiculous.

 

[Spamtron]

Batsuit revealed

Spoiler

Nice looking suit, but his side to side mobility is severely hampered...only front to back split kicks are possible in that suit!

 

[Travesty]

Batsuit revealed

Spoiler

I'll be seein The Lego Movie this weekend!

 

[Spamtron]

Yeah, me too... but it's not that version of the suit unfortunately.

But we will get to see the JL together!

 

[Alex_Spider]

Because grey tights are inherently more frightening and menacing to criminals.

Oh, and...whoever says this didn't look cool is lying to themselves.

That same effect could work with a thick fabric comic suit.
And what are you trying to prove with that image? How many times did the TDK puzzle mess looked like that in the movies? I could care less if it looked awesome in a scene or two. I want the suit to look awesome in all scenes.

 

[regwec]

In truth, this is another example of the TDK(R) suit apparently looking fantastic when it can barely be seen.

Nevertheless, the bobble head thing is still all too plain for me.

 

[DeadPresident]

That's approaching a paraphrase of my original comment.



That seems to rather suggest that we can put words in one another's mouths. Let's not do that.



That's a somewhat fairer revision of your earlier comment, which suggested that I didn't think the rubber-lovers were proper fans.

I didn't say that.



I'm in favour of any flexibility that allows Batman to kick goons in the throat.



I know, the tension is getting ridiculous.

Fair points.

 

[MrsKent26]

Since all of the movie batsuits have been some sort of black armor, I wonder if even people who liked those looks are open to a change?

I just think it's time.

And as someone who didn't like any of the previous ones, it's getting a tad frustrating. The last suit that wasn't black armor was Adam West and that is so dated. I just want something different.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

In truth, this is another example of the TDK(R) suit apparently looking fantastic when it can barely be seen.

Nevertheless, the bobble head thing is still all too plain for me.

haha. Exactly! The suit only looking amazing when you can barely see it proves that it sucks.

 

[MrsKent26]

And they did show it in the light a couple times in TDKR.

 

[Travesty]

The horror....the HORROR!

 

[Matt.S99]

The BB suit was SO much better.

 

[Crimz]

Darkness was that suits friend.

 

[CosBlade]

Honestly I didn't like the TDK/R batsuit, but I only really hated the legs and the neck.

I think the Begins suit was better overall, and the idea of replacing the entire suit just so he could turn his neck (when the problem was obviously just the cowl) was stupid. I liked the thick neck if the suit because on his build at the time, it worked. It made him look like a powerful creature ready to pounce.

Take the gloves from the TDK and replace the plain one from Begins and honestly all they needed was a more mobile neck. That suit would have been fine.

Still, I would prefer we see a fabric suit. It's the norm now for superhero movies, and Captain America's designs have captured the look of armored fabric really well. There's no excuse and no need for rubber armor anymore.

 

[DeadPresident]

Solid.

Out of curiosity, for those who aren't fans of TDKT suits, how would you have felt if TDKT used the above image's "cover material" but blacked out? So essentially the armored pieces underneath but with a fabric over that only alludes to the puzzle piece nature under it?

 

[regwec]

It would certainly be an improvement, but- and excuse my outspokenness- it would be like polishing a turd, to me.

 

[JKKS085]

Only because we have never had a proper Batsuit. This forum has always been divided between those who really want to see a proper Batsuit, and those who just like whatever a movie studio gives them at the time.

Yop that's me right there. Thanks for pointing that out Richard. Actually if it wasn't for you I wouldn't be aware of my total lack of standards whatsoever. It is so liberating to finally get to know yourself.

 

[regwec]

That's okay, Peter.

 

[MrsKent26]

Out of curiosity, for those who aren't fans of TDKT suits, how would you have felt if TDKT used the above image's "cover material" but blacked out? So essentially the armored pieces underneath but with a fabric over that only alludes to the puzzle piece nature under it?

I'm having a hard time picturing that. Would there be a point to the armor if you couldn't see it? Would the suit be really bulky with a layer over the armor? And I don't really like the puzzle look at all, even when it's just "alluded" to.

 

[DeadPresident]

I'm having a hard time picturing that. Would there be a point to the armor if you couldn't see it? Would the suit be really bulky with a layer over the armor? And I don't really like the puzzle look at all, even when it's just "alluded" to.

I'm just thinking of the most basic ways they could have concealed the puzzle pieces. Sort of what the Superman suit in MoS has in the ab area, just a silhouette as opposed to blatantly superimposed pieces. Additionally I assume the use of fabric would seem more faithful to traditional bat suits. Completely academic discussions, but I want to pin down what would have redeemed the suit/it's most detracting factors.

 

[JKKS085]

Since all of the movie batsuits have been some sort of black armor, I wonder if even people who liked those looks are open to a change?

I am. It just time to shake things up a bit.
And I'm not talking about comicbook accuracy or other ideas such as what a "proper" bastuit is supposed to look like, I just want them to try a different approach.

Technology as evolved and it's just illogical to stick to an armored "look" that is just as restrictive for the actor as the old rubber suits while we live in a time of stabproof and bulletproof fabrics. It just doesn't make sense anymore.

 

[MrsKent26]

I'm just thinking of the most basic ways they could have concealed the puzzle pieces. Sort of what the Superman suit in MoS has in the ab area, just a silhouette as opposed to blatantly superimposed pieces. Additionally I assume the use of fabric would seem more faithful to traditional bat suits. Completely academic discussions, but I want to pin down what would have redeemed the suit/it's most detracting factors.

Ah, I see.

For me, the suit needed a complete overhaul. To be honest, there wasn't much I liked about it.

I am. It just time to shake things up a bit.
And I'm not talking about comicbook accuracy or other ideas such as what a "proper" bastuit is supposed to look like, I just want them to try a different approach.

Technology as evolved and it's just illogical to stick to an armored "look" that is just as restrictive for the actor as the old rubber suits while we live in a time of stabproof and bulletproof fabrics. It just doesn't make sense anymore.

It's not really so much about "proper" or "accurate" for me, either. Although, what I tend to like for a batsuit is closer to the comics. I just want simplicity in a design. When I look at the DK(R) suit, I just get completely distracted by complexity and lines (unless it's in mostly darkness). I just want to see batman and get immersed in classic batman imagery this time.

 

[BatFan1979]

Not to bring up one of my past manips or anything (since several people were involved with the evolution of this image), but I feel this is enough of a nod to the purists without going too "comic-book" with just a spandex-type fabric look from many comics (modern versions excluded). I mean maybe it could loose some of the wrinkling in the arms, but overall I think its a nice marriage of the comics with a realistic design.