BvS The Batsuit Thread - - - - Part 13

[green]

Slightly off topic, IMHO the BB Bat-Suit is the best big screen Bat-Suit so far.

P/S Like TheFlamingCoco said the BB suit would have looked a lot cooler if it would have been black and gray instead of all black.

You know my biggest problem with the cowl is the unbelievably awful mouth opening…it's like they just cut a circle out of it. It's really distracting.

 

[InJustice]

No ****. The point I was clearly making was that the symbol, being a part of the suit's molded rubber, does not look like a separate or later addition.

Be careful with dumbo smilies, lest they rebound upon you.

I get that the coat of paint is supposed to explain all of that away, but the way the thing looks doesn't achieve the purpose.

It's raised from the suit. Thus, I think it's pretty clear that it does look like a separate/later addition.

 

[DeadPresident]

I do think the pants section of TDK/R suit was pretty bad, might have looked better if they kept the smooth BB bottom section with the revised torso/cowl area.

 

[regwec]

@ Injustice

Maybe. There are enough lines on the thing for that to be rather ambiguous. For me, it looks like the same piece of rubber, because it is the same piece of rubber.

 

[Mindreaper21]

Slightly off topic, IMHO the BB Bat-Suit is the best big screen Bat-Suit so far.

P/S Like TheFlamingCoco said the BB suit would have looked a lot cooler if it would have been black and gray instead of all black.

I agree that this is the best Batman suit. What worked is that the suit didn't have a ton of unnecessary designs with pieces all over the place. I wouldn't really want a black on grey suit unless the grey is dark. Black on grey looks great in the comics, but it looks campy on film. I believe that the suit should remain dark so that Batman looks more like a shadow rather than a man in an outfit. My idea for the next suit would for it to look similar to this combined with the Arkham Origins suit. Use a sort of AO material, keep the designs simple like BB, but leave the symbol rubber and with some sort of design in it.

 

[Bathead]

I agree that this is the best Batman suit. What worked is that the suit didn't have a ton of unnecessary designs with pieces all over the place. I wouldn't really want a black on grey suit unless the grey is dark. Black on grey looks great in the comics, but it looks campy on film. I believe that the suit should remain dark so that Batman looks more like a shadow rather than a man in an outfit. My idea for the next suit would for it to look similar to this combined with the Arkham Origins suit. Use a sort of AO material, keep the designs simple like BB, but leave the symbol rubber and with some sort of design in it.

There's that bogus sentiment again. You can't possibly know that as a black and grey costume has never been done in the movies yet. And please, don't use Adam West and the various fan films as examples, Adam's costume was done almost years ago and the fan films were done on a dime and a prayer, not a major studio film budget.

 

[Travesty]

For me, the best is still the Returns suit, then BB, B89, BF-panther suit, B66,BF-sonar suit, B&R, B&R-snow suit, TDK/R suit.

 

[Mindreaper21]

There's that bogus sentiment again. You can't possibly know that as a black and grey costume has never been done in the movies yet.

It's not bogus at all. I have seen many fan films with the black on grey suit. A dark grey could work, just not a grey a light as in the comics, because it makes Batman stand out far too much. Sure, a film maker can try to play around with lights and shadows, but it's not enough. That's my opinion.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

This, 1,000,000 times. The DK trilogy has it's strengths and weaknesses but falling short on the visual side is a cardinal sin for a hero character like Batman.

Every shot of the lead character in costume in the Marvel movies or Man OF Steel looks like a splash page. There's barely anything in Nolan's trilogy that fits that bill and what there is is fleeting.

To put it another way - I always thought Batman Begins would have been a movie I would actually loved if the leaked script (which I liked a bit better than the final one) had been directed by Zac Snyder. I felt that way before he did MOS.

The man knows how to do comic book visuals right, it IS his forte. There's no one better at it IMO.

So it's pretty great I actually get to see a Zac Snyder Batman and I didn't have to wait 10 or 20 years after Nolan to get it.

Disturbingly enough, I think Snyder could have pulled off Begins. I don't think he'd have the tightness of the narrative FRAMING that Nolan did, but he would have made the action better, and placed visual significance on the characters. I do think that he would have made scarecrow scarier as well.

But then again, TDK wouldn't nearly be as good. And TDKR would probably end up one giant action scene

 

[regwec]

The could just try to ensure the damn thing is never properly seen, like the puzzle suit.

 

[Mindreaper21]

Lol, they failed when they put that suit in broad daylight. Pieces. Pieces everywhere.

 

[MrsKent26]

Even though I think Batman should mostly appear at night in the movie, any batsuit design that doesn't look good in daylight, or in a photo-shoot, isn't a good design. There's a difference between taking advantage of the darkness to create iconic batman imagery and needing the suit to be in the dark for it to be acceptable.

 

[Bathead]

It's not bogus at all. I have seen many fan films with the black on grey suit. A dark grey could work, just not a grey a light as in the comics, because it makes Batman stand out far too much. Sure, a film maker can try to play around with lights and shadows, but it's not enough. That's my opinion.

Fan films don't count. They have nowhere near the budget that a major film stuio has, and since a major film studio hasn't had a crack at a suit like that, you cannot say it doesn't work on film, because it hasn't happened yet.
And nobody is asking for a light grey, All you need is a medium grey, too dark and it might as well be black. No light grey, no dark grey, a medium shade would be best.

 

[Loki882]

Disturbingly enough, I think Snyder could have pulled off Begins. I don't think he'd have the tightness of the narrative FRAMING that Nolan did, but he would have made the action better, and placed visual significance on the characters. I do think that he would have made scarecrow scarier as well.

But then again, TDK wouldn't nearly be as good. And TDKR would probably end up one giant action scene

The action in Begins was fine. I actually get annoyed with the whole "you can't see the fights" complaint. That's the freaking point, it shows how disoriented and confused the criminals are, which is what Batman is trying to do. It worked for that movie. Now the fight scenes in the other two movies, yeah those are rather mediocre. Not terrible, just mediocre. My favorite was the first Batman/Bane fight in the sewers, but that was more because of the atmosphere, tension, and performances than the actual choreography. However, I also think that people need to give up on the idea that we're going to ever see super martial artist Batman from the comics. 1. Most actors who can actually act aren't martial artists and 2. the suits are too big and bulky to do fancy martial arts moves.

 

[lujho]

Yeah, the opening was pretty bad, and I never liked the inward-slanting ears either. As good as the Nolan Batman films were, I felt the suits were their weak point. I like some of the concepts...even the TDK tactical approach, but not the ultimate execution.

I think if the TDK suit had to still be rubber, the evolution should have gone the OTHER way - it went from organic with a bit of tech/roboty stuff on the abdomen, to fully techy/robotic.

It should have gone for a sleeker, smoother, simpler more organic look in TDK, even if it stayed rubber. Imagine the meshy undersuit that he had in TDK with a bunch of separate smooth, plain, flat rubber plates roughly corresponding to different muscle groups.

I was never even 100% opposed to a rubber Batsuit, more just the cosmetic details they decided to go with.

 

[BattleAngel]

Nobody is asking for a light grey, All you need is a medium grey, too dark and it might as well be black. No light grey, no dark grey, a medium shade would be best.

What do you think of this shade? It's my newest manip based on a different model (still by Vigilant) with lots of tweaks based on stuff people have asked for on here... I have one with the typical white lenses thing I do, but I omitted it so as not to start any wars haha

 

[Bathead]

What do you think of this shade? It's my newest manip based on a different model (still by Vigilant) with lots of tweaks based on stuff people have asked for on here... I have one with the typical white lenses thing I do, but I omitted it so as not to start any wars haha

Yeah, that's good. Not too light, not too dark.

 

[Boy Scout]

I agree that this is the best Batman suit. What worked is that the suit didn't have a ton of unnecessary designs with pieces all over the place. I wouldn't really want a black on grey suit unless the grey is dark. Black on grey looks great in the comics, but it looks campy on film. I believe that the suit should remain dark so that Batman looks more like a shadow rather than a man in an outfit. My idea for the next suit would for it to look similar to this combined with the Arkham Origins suit. Use a sort of AO material, keep the designs simple like BB, but leave the symbol rubber and with some sort of design in it.

People abuse the **** out of this word.

 

[Sawyer]

People abuse the **** out of this word.

Especially when it's not even accurate.

The black and gray suit would be too campy in live action? I'm sorry... WHAT?!

 

[Boy Scout]

Yeah, I don't even know what that means.

 

[BattleAngel]

Holy smokes, Vigilant makes cool stuff. Here's another Fleck based on his stuff.

And one without the eyes...

 

[BatFan1979]

Holy smokes, Vigilant makes cool stuff. Here's another Fleck based on his stuff.

And one without the eyes...

Id like a suit like this except for the cowl. The neck is too thick IMO. Id hope they can do a sleeker, more form fitting cowl like we've mentioned in this thread and we've been showing in the majority of our manips. I like the bodysuit for the most part though. Maybe slightly darker grey though.

 

[BatFan1979]

Holy smokes, Vigilant makes cool stuff. Here's another Fleck based on his stuff.

And one without the eyes...

Id like a suit like this except for the cowl. The neck is too thick IMO. Id hope they can do a sleeker, more form fitting cowl like we've mentioned in this thread and we've been showing in the majority of our manips. I like the bodysuit for the most part though. Maybe slightly darker grey though.

 

[BattleAngel]

BatFan1979, the body is pretty close to what you me and CosBlade did on the last run. I think if you put the belt you've been using in there, we'd be very close. Maybe you can mess with the cowl? I think the body on the one above is pretty sweet though, as far as something that would compare to Cap goes. I put him next to Superman here. I bet you could finish this one off into one unholy mother ****er of a B/S pic.

(also I'm pretty sure it's the same cowl we used on the other tweaks of Vigilant's model, just viewed from the front)

 

[BatFan1979]

Damn you , BA! I was all cozy in bed and you had to go on and put this in front of me! I can't pass up a chance to tweak such a great imaget: Hope the wife doesn't wake up...