BvS The Batsuit Thread - - - - - - - - Part 31

[DKDetective]

I still don't understand why they went with a velvet like texture for the cape on the TDK trilogy suits.

Lindy Hemming wanted to give the cape an "animalistic" quality if I recall correctly. She thought a velvet texture would be reminiscent of a bat's wing or fur or something. I know, it makes no sense because bat's wings are skin and look leathery, but obviously the woman obviously never saw a real bat up-close or something. She also dressed James Bond, a British icon known for his Savile Row style, in Italian three-button suits with belts and loud 90s geometic pattern ties straight out of an episode of Frasier, so yeah...

 

[The Guard]

I still don't understand why they went with a velvet like texture for the cape on the TDK trilogy suits.

It was part of the explanation for how memory cloth works.

 

[PerryYellow]

Lindy Hemming wanted to give the cape an "animalistic" quality if I recall correctly. She thought a velvet texture would be reminiscent of a bat's wing or fur or something. I know, it makes no sense because bat's wings are skin and look leathery, but obviously the woman obviously never saw a real bat up-close or something.

A leather or plastic cape would have been too reminiscent of the Schumacher fetishistic suits. I liked his cape and it would have looked great if his suit was made of the same fabric (with supposedly armor underneath). This fabric would make him look more animalistic. But this cape tied around the neck of a plastic suit, made it look like he just came out of the shower or something.

She also dressed James Bond, a British icon known for his Savile Row style, in Italian three-button suits with belts and loud 90s geometic pattern ties straight out of an episode of Frasier, so yeah...

Before joining, i would often come across this board in my search for news and pictures of the various comic book movies and i can swear that everyone was drinking the ______ coolaid (insert the name of anyone working on the Nolan movies). Now people see things for what they are. Hemming is crap, Zimmer's scores are too loud, Nolan thinks reciting poems in his movies somehow makes them deep, etc.

Let's see how our perception of these new movies changes in a few years.

It was part of the explanation for how memory cloth works.

But it could have been any kind of fabric they chose.

 

[DlAMONDZ]

Just to show you the progress

Honestly, Bale looks better here. Batman should be off limits to these magazines tbh

He's looked better everywhere else: Pics taken by Snyder himself, set pics, trailers etc..

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

^ It's the angle They photoshopped the Fleck's neck out

 

[PerryYellow]

^ It's the angle They photoshopped the Fleck's neck out

You cant photoshop out something that isnt there to begin with.

 

[slumcat]

I am flabbergasted by people's love for this suit. It looks incredibly over padded in the arms area. I'm happy the majority love it, but I would have thought there would be complaints about it.

I agree with this. I simply don't see what's fascinating about that suit tbh. Its decent but I agree its way over-padded. It breaks the illusion quite a bit that the actor underneath does not look close to the proportions in the suit. Cavill's suit is padded too but it s a fair representation of his actual self. But the Batsuit, it's like everything's been doubled there.

It is a nice suit admittedly, the grey and black color scheme is very good, the texture is good, but I can't quite bring myself to think of it as the best suit ever created or something, as the rest of the internet seems to think.

So yeah good but not great.

 

[The Caped Knight]

Just to show you the progress

See I'd love how Bale's cowl the ears are a bit bigger. I wished the cowl for Affleck was a tad bigger. Still the bat suit is very comic book inspired and built for a fit and bulkier Batman, Jim lee style.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

^ I'm all for bigger horns. I'd even want the 12 inch Tim Sale ones

 

[Astro13Zombie]

Honestly, Bale looks better here. Batman should be off limits to these magazines tbh

lolnah

 

[Gamma Goliath]

they messed with both pictures with the photoshop job. Cavills forced awkward smile, and batman being too wide and no neck.

 

[PerryYellow]

I agree with this. I simply don't see what's fascinating about that suit tbh. Its decent but I agree its way over-padded. It breaks the illusion quite a bit that the actor underneath does not look close to the proportions in the suit. Cavill's suit is padded too but it s a fair representation of his actual self. But the Batsuit, it's like everything's been doubled there.

It is a nice suit admittedly, the grey and black color scheme is very good, the texture is good, but I can't quite bring myself to think of it as the best suit ever created or something, as the rest of the internet seems to think.

So yeah good but not great.

Snyder just answered that question in comiccon.

"TDKReturns batman is thick, therefore.... uh.... eh.... we tried... uh.... awesome.... uh.... i think.... this Batman uh.... awesome..... uh.... eh.... le fronk meelair.... uh... BECAUSE THAT'S HOW HE IS IN THE ONLY BATMAN COMIC I EVER READ OK?"

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

To be fair, Frank Miller seems to be the goto for casual fans

 

[PerryYellow]

See I'd love how Bale's cowl the ears are a bit bigger. I wished the cowl for Affleck was a tad bigger. Still the bat suit is very comic book inspired and built for a fit and bulkier Batman, Jim lee style.

Snyder's batsuit is clearly not Jim Lee's. It's from Miller's Batman. From the thickness, to the big fat ugly batemblem, to the gauntlet spikes (whatever those things are called), etc.

 

[Spoonman]

The supposedly banned (in SHH) picture of Batfleck is in a similar pose to that of Empire Magazine and it has a visible neck, so I am willing to bet that EM thinkered with that picture for whatever reason. Somebody with decent PS skills will "add back"the missing neck on this picture sooner or later hehe.

 

[antoineflemming]

The suit looks great. The suit is bigger than Ben Affleck because it's meant to be bigger than Bruce Wayne. That aspect also helps Batman and Bruce Wayne look different. The cowl might need some work, though. In most shots it's been in, it looks too wide.

 

[PerryYellow]

To be fair, Frank Miller seems to be the goto for casual fans

Call me a batman hipster but that's why i hate his batman. He is an exaggerated version of all the "cool" elements of batman that 10 year old kids like. He breaks bones and broods all the time so he's hardcore and awesome. I'm not saying that TDKR isnt awesome, deeply layered, and whatnot, i'm saying that it attracts attention for all the wrong reasons.

That aspect also helps Batman and Bruce Wayne look different.

This is a movie where a demigod alien walks unnoticed in the world's biggest newspaper offices by wearing a set of reading glasses. Also, eye lasers and amazon women. Please dont try to justify Snyder's stylistic choices with nolanistic realism.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

^ To me, it's a good Elseworlds story. I don't think of it being canon.

 

[PerryYellow]

^ To me, it's a good Elseworlds story. I don't think of it being canon.

For me as well. I love it for what it is. I'd even love it as the end of this movieverse. But i'm kind of annoyed that Snyder's fanboyism for it overcame common sense. Sure, the robo batsuit is freaking amazing, and i do want to see SM and BM duke it out, but i'd never use TDKR as source material for the beginning of a new universe, nor would i base the design of my movies on Miller's artistic skills.

Hey, i LOVE all-star superman, but i'd never make a superman suit that looks like Quitely's.

 

[antoineflemming]

Call me a batman hipster but that's why i hate his batman. He is an exaggerated version of all the "cool" elements of batman that 10 year old kids like. He breaks bones and broods all the time so he's hardcore and awesome. I'm not saying that TDKR isnt awesome, deeply layered, and whatnot, i'm saying that it attracts attention for all the wrong reasons.

This is a movie where a demigod alien walks unnoticed in the world's biggest newspaper offices by wearing a set of reading glasses. Also, eye lasers and amazon women. Please dont try to justify Snyder's stylistic choices with nolanistic realism.

I don't need to justify anything. I think the suit looks good, and I'm providing a possible explanation as to why it looks like that, beyond the obvious success it getting the suit to look like the comic book physique (and the physique of the suit is obviously not meant, in real life or in the movie, to look like Bruce Wayne's actual physique. That's common sense). If you can't stand it, fine, but I still like it and see the value in the suit being bigger than Affleck. Oh, and I quite like Snyder's stylistic choices, for Batman and Superman. And I'm certainly glad Snyder doesn't defer to you when it comes to stylistic decisions.

 

[The Shape]

The only times the suit has not looked great, or has appeared to be too bulky, are in awkwardly photoshopped pictures/covers like this one.

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

Lindy Hemming wanted to give the cape an "animalistic" quality if I recall correctly. She thought a velvet texture would be reminiscent of a bat's wing or fur or something. I know, it makes no sense because bat's wings are skin and look leathery, but obviously the woman obviously never saw a real bat up-close or something. She also dressed James Bond, a British icon known for his Savile Row style, in Italian three-button suits with belts and loud 90s geometic pattern ties straight out of an episode of Frasier, so yeah...

She thought velvet mimicked the texture and look of a Bat's wings? That's odd. For the fur, I get it but the wings?

See I'd love how Bale's cowl the ears are a bit bigger. I wished the cowl for Affleck was a tad bigger. Still the bat suit is very comic book inspired and built for a fit and bulkier Batman, Jim lee style.

On the Empire cover with the bad Photoshop and all it most resembles Frank Miller's TDKR Batman. But in action, this shot from the trailer especially, it definitely reminded me more of Jim Lee's style Batman.

Particularly Jim Lee's All Star Batman look.

 

[The Shape]

I don't know if the photographers keep telling Affleck to lower his head or what, but they're really abusing that particular pose.

This cover used the same Batfleck headshot as the one we saw against a white background that popped up here awhile back. The same one used for the IMAX trailer event posters.

 

[slumcat]

The suit looks great. The suit is bigger than Ben Affleck because it's meant to be bigger than Bruce Wayne. That aspect also helps Batman and Bruce Wayne look different. The cowl might need some work, though. In most shots it's been in, it looks too wide.

I agree with perryyellow. I mean the movie has a Greek godess in modern times and a man who flies around and the last thing they needed realism about his Bruce Wayne being mistaken for Batman through having a similar size.

I think its just Snyder wanting a bulldozer like Batman who can run through walls or something. But I don't think its either aesthetic or realistic or serves any purpose even. It just makes him look huge and blocky. And even bigger than Superman which is also kinda weird to me honestly.

And I agree with another thing said above, that for a first suit its a questionable choice. They could maybe gradually add padding to make him bigger and bigger over films (like they are doing with Superman), but to start this way, he might end up like a boulder in a grey sock by the end.

 

[Legendver2]

THIS ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!